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afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
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mhardy6647 wrote: »a sound cult -- as in opinions outside of the mainstream in terms of hifi reproduction?
... you have no idea...
DSC_5909 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
If i did hurt your feelings. I got milk and cookies for you
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You didn't hurt his feelings, not even close.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Last but by no means least, is the sound quality which I find immensely satisfying which seems to bring out the best of whatever speakers it's being used with.
But you stated earlier,I used the think the way you do now - whenever I bought new expensive amplifiers - that is until I purchased a device that allows switching between them on the fly. It was humbling, disappointing but immeasurably revealing. Any differences that did/do exist were so minute as to have little to no effect on musical enjoyment.
So, you either think that all amps sound like a Mac or you just stepped on your tail.
"Seems to bring the best" should have been self-explanatory as it was never intended to be declaration of fact in the absolute.
I have also never labored under the delusion that equally satisfying results cannot be obtained with non-McIntosh electronics.
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Flat earthers......
See, if you can't hear the difference or think that everything that is audible has a corresponding measure to it....well, there you go. It's your opinion which isn't likely to be swayed by anyone.....and opinions are like....well you know how that goes.
We've had these arguments before....and will have 'em again. The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all? What do you care what others think and spend their dough on? Live and let live. Leave us alone....go be an irritating zorch someplace else.
F1 is our J Gordon Holt. In His Ears We Trust.
BDT
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Last but by no means least, is the sound quality which I find immensely satisfying which seems to bring out the best of whatever speakers it's being used with.
But you stated earlier,I used the think the way you do now - whenever I bought new expensive amplifiers - that is until I purchased a device that allows switching between them on the fly. It was humbling, disappointing but immeasurably revealing. Any differences that did/do exist were so minute as to have little to no effect on musical enjoyment.
So, you either think that all amps sound like a Mac or you just stepped on your tail.
"Seems to bring the best" should have been self-explanatory as it was never intended to be declaration of fact in the absolute.
I have also never labored under the delusion that equally satisfying results cannot be obtained with non-McIntosh electronics.
When you say bright what do you mean ?
I have to say it’s pretty cool there people out there who are into finding the best sound.
Also another question buddy what speakers are out right now by poke if any that are better than the RTI 12 ? -
Bright means any one or more of the following. The balance of the speaker has too much treble. An edginess or sharpness to the treble. High frequencies that hurt your ears. Listening fatigue brought on by the treble energy. Peaky and shouty sounds.
Poke?
The LSiM and Signature series.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Last but by no means least, is the sound quality which I find immensely satisfying which seems to bring out the best of whatever speakers it's being used with.
But you stated earlier,I used the think the way you do now - whenever I bought new expensive amplifiers - that is until I purchased a device that allows switching between them on the fly. It was humbling, disappointing but immeasurably revealing. Any differences that did/do exist were so minute as to have little to no effect on musical enjoyment.
So, you either think that all amps sound like a Mac or you just stepped on your tail.
"Seems to bring the best" should have been self-explanatory as it was never intended to be declaration of fact in the absolute.
I have also never labored under the delusion that equally satisfying results cannot be obtained with non-McIntosh electronics.
Um...no.
Main:
McIntosh: MC 2155, MC 2125(x2), MR 80, C 32, MQ 101; Snell J7; Polk: RTiA7, RTiA9;
Pioneer PL-518; A/T 440 MLa; Yamaha CD
Vintage:
McIntosh: MX110Z, MC 2505, MC 240, Thorens TD 145; Shure V15III; Altec 14, Boston T1000; Yamaha CDX 393 CD; Yamaha Cass -
Bright means any one or more of the following. The balance of the speaker has too much treble. An edginess or sharpness to the treble. High frequencies that hurt your ears. Listening fatigue brought on by the treble energy. Peaky and shouty sounds.
Poke?
The LSiM and Signature series.
So the LSiM and Signature series are better speakers then the RTI12 ? -
I would suggest two Pass X600.5 amps if buying used, or X600.8 if buying new.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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Don't let him fool you! Doc Hardy consumes copious cups of Klipsch Kool-Aid!
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Ya not spending 15k to 30k on a amp.I would suggest two Pass X600.5 amps if buying used, or X600.8 if buying new.
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What do people think about of CERWIN VEGA CMX Series or there XLS Series?
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afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
What do people think about of CERWIN VEGA CMX Series or there XLS Series?
I try not to think about Cerwin-Vega products at all.
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At my last job, I once had a conversation about audio equipment with 2 younger fellas, and one of them said Bose were the best sounding speakers there are. The other one said yes, besides Cerwin Vega.
I laughed and walked away while they both had puzzled looks on their faces....
It just means they've yet to experience the power and majesty that was/is Radio Shack's Realistic brand.
source: www.radioshackcatalogs.com (1976)
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Flat earthers......
See, if you can't hear the difference or think that everything that is audible has a corresponding measure to it....well, there you go. It's your opinion which isn't likely to be swayed by anyone.....and opinions are like....well you know how that goes.
We've had these arguments before....and will have 'em again. The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all? What do you care what others think and spend their dough on? Live and let live. Leave us alone....go be an irritating zorch someplace else.
F1 is our J Gordon Holt. In His Ears We Trust.
BDT
You trust him then; I will make my own judgments. I daresay I've done a lot more by way of critical listening experimentation before arriving at any of them- which is lot more than can be said for the majority posters I've encountered in a number of hi fi forums, who for whatever reasons are disinclined to put their beliefs to the test.
What is especially telling is the rabid manner in which a certain point of view is defended and usually combined with persecution of those who don't share it when they make their positions known.
The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all?
Translation: The Polk Forum is welcoming only to those of a singular mindset. Is that what you are spouting? If so, that's the gravest problem of all.Main:
McIntosh: MC 2155, MC 2125(x2), MR 80, C 32, MQ 101; Snell J7; Polk: RTiA7, RTiA9;
Pioneer PL-518; A/T 440 MLa; Yamaha CD
Vintage:
McIntosh: MX110Z, MC 2505, MC 240, Thorens TD 145; Shure V15III; Altec 14, Boston T1000; Yamaha CDX 393 CD; Yamaha Cass -
Well I must admit, back when I was around 20 I did own a pair of Mach II's. I picked them up during one of Radio Shacks often BOGO sales. At the time, they were great for blasting Judas Priest to near concert levels while I was um, enhanced
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One thing I miss about speakers of those days in general is that almost all of them seemed to use real wood veneer finishes, instead of cheap looking and feeling vinyl. I commend Polk for using real wood veneer on the Rti/A lines that most people could afford. I wonder if the new Legend Series continues that tradition?
The Mach Two is actually not a bad sounding loudspeaker; head and shoulders above the Mach One IMO. The bugbear with the Mach Two was/is the foam surround on the midrange driver, as I recall.
Mach Two on DIY Polkstand by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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So you would go with polk over CERWIN VEGA. The spec are decent on there speakers. Thats why i’m asking you guys know 1000 times more then me.
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Flat earthers......
See, if you can't hear the difference or think that everything that is audible has a corresponding measure to it....well, there you go. It's your opinion which isn't likely to be swayed by anyone.....and opinions are like....well you know how that goes.
We've had these arguments before....and will have 'em again. The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all? What do you care what others think and spend their dough on? Live and let live. Leave us alone....go be an irritating zorch someplace else.
F1 is our J Gordon Holt. In His Ears We Trust.
BDT
You trust him then; I will make my own judgments. I daresay I've done a lot more by way of critical listening experimentation before arriving at any of them- which is lot more than can be said for the majority posters I've encountered in a number of hi fi forums, who for whatever reasons are disinclined to put their beliefs to the test.
What is especially telling is the rabid manner in which a certain point of view is defended and usually combined with persecution of those who don't share it when they make their positions known.
The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all?
Translation: The Polk Forum is welcoming only to those of a singular mindset. Is that what you are spouting? If so, that's the gravest problem of all.
LOL.....you spout the same opinions at AK where there are more folks with less personal experience with better gear than found here, which is the reason for the push back. We know better and refuse to entertain narrow minds and naysayers.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
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So, you would go with polk over CERWIN VEGA? The specs are decent on their speakers. Thats why i’m asking. You guys know 1000 times more then me.
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Yes, we would pick Polk over CV... I mean, this IS a Polk forum after all.
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At my last job, I once had a conversation about audio equipment with 2 younger fellas, and one of them said Bose were the best sounding speakers there are. The other one said yes, besides Cerwin Vega.
I laughed and walked away while they both had puzzled looks on their faces....
I don’t see the issue - all speakers sound the same.
Any differences that do exist are so minute as to have little or no effect on musical enjoyment...."Conservative Libertarians love the country, progressive leftists love the government." - Andrew Wilkow
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -
At my last job, I once had a conversation about audio equipment with 2 younger fellas, and one of them said Bose were the best sounding speakers there are. The other one said yes, besides Cerwin Vega.
I laughed and walked away while they both had puzzled looks on their faces....
I don’t see the issue - all speakers sound the same.
Any differences that do exist are so minute as to have little or no effect on musical enjoyment....
My words in italics specifically referred to the amplifiers that I've compared. Suggest you read the the thread where my participation began.
Main:
McIntosh: MC 2155, MC 2125(x2), MR 80, C 32, MQ 101; Snell J7; Polk: RTiA7, RTiA9;
Pioneer PL-518; A/T 440 MLa; Yamaha CD
Vintage:
McIntosh: MX110Z, MC 2505, MC 240, Thorens TD 145; Shure V15III; Altec 14, Boston T1000; Yamaha CDX 393 CD; Yamaha Cass -
Flat earthers......
See, if you can't hear the difference or think that everything that is audible has a corresponding measure to it....well, there you go. It's your opinion which isn't likely to be swayed by anyone.....and opinions are like....well you know how that goes.
We've had these arguments before....and will have 'em again. The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all? What do you care what others think and spend their dough on? Live and let live. Leave us alone....go be an irritating zorch someplace else.
F1 is our J Gordon Holt. In His Ears We Trust.
BDT
You trust him then; I will make my own judgments. I daresay I've done a lot more by way of critical listening experimentation before arriving at any of them- which is lot more than can be said for the majority posters I've encountered in a number of hi fi forums, who for whatever reasons are disinclined to put their beliefs to the test.
What is especially telling is the rabid manner in which a certain point of view is defended and usually combined with persecution of those who don't share it when they make their positions known.
The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all?
Translation: The Polk Forum is welcoming only to those of a singular mindset. Is that what you are spouting? If so, that's the gravest problem of all.
LOL.....you spout the same opinions at AK where there are more folks with less personal experience with better gear than found here, which is the reason for the push back. We know better and refuse to entertain narrow minds and naysayers.
Main:
McIntosh: MC 2155, MC 2125(x2), MR 80, C 32, MQ 101; Snell J7; Polk: RTiA7, RTiA9;
Pioneer PL-518; A/T 440 MLa; Yamaha CD
Vintage:
McIntosh: MX110Z, MC 2505, MC 240, Thorens TD 145; Shure V15III; Altec 14, Boston T1000; Yamaha CDX 393 CD; Yamaha Cass -
Flat earthers......
See, if you can't hear the difference or think that everything that is audible has a corresponding measure to it....well, there you go. It's your opinion which isn't likely to be swayed by anyone.....and opinions are like....well you know how that goes.
We've had these arguments before....and will have 'em again. The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all? What do you care what others think and spend their dough on? Live and let live. Leave us alone....go be an irritating zorch someplace else.
F1 is our J Gordon Holt. In His Ears We Trust.
BDT
You trust him then; I will make my own judgments. I daresay I've done a lot more by way of critical listening experimentation before arriving at any of them- which is lot more than can be said for the majority posters I've encountered in a number of hi fi forums, who for whatever reasons are disinclined to put their beliefs to the test.
What is especially telling is the rabid manner in which a certain point of view is defended and usually combined with persecution of those who don't share it when they make their positions known.
The problem is with folks like Polkadopeajojo and his ilk, is if you actually believe what you are spouting, why are you here at all?
Translation: The Polk Forum is welcoming only to those of a singular mindset. Is that what you are spouting? If so, that's the gravest problem of all.
LOL.....you spout the same opinions at AK where there are more folks with less personal experience with better gear than found here, which is the reason for the push back. We know better and refuse to entertain narrow minds and naysayers.
Yep, you've got a big old bag of nothing.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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