Let's Talk About Power Conditioners

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  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,672
    edited May 18
    The beer analogy of power factor is easy to understand. VA is the apparent power and Watts are the real power. The larger rating means larger output capability. So for a given voltage, the capacity is limited by the current rating.

    120V x 5 Amps = 600 (Macbook, PC speakers, keyboard)
    120V x 10 Amps = 1200 (Small integrated, Streamer)
    120V x 15 Amps = 1800 (HT AVR, Blu-Ray, subs, HDTV)
    120V x 20 Amps = 2400 (Hi End class-A Preamp, DAC, streamer, high amp monoblocks)

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  • verbverb Posts: 8,260
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I use the Hydra8 and I think it made a difference. That is sweet Rich, the made some good gear from what I remember.

    I remember you snagged that one Ivan! I've been looking for one too! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,724
    Verb. AQ Niagara FTW
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,078
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Verb. AQ Niagara FTW

    Dave . . . Buy one already! :D



    . . . then let me know what I'm missing so I can search one out, too!

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    Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
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  • voltzvoltz Posts: 5,303
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Verb. AQ Niagara FTW

    I read some many good stuff about these but then heard a few that felt it lost something? crazy how other hear it differently... got to love those 30 day trials!
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,724
    It is crazy how there are different experiences out there, albeit great swayed towards positive. I’m sure there might be some setups out there that don’t have synergy with the AQ power stuff, but for my experience they have done absolute wonders for all aspects of my particular setup. I’m keeping mine for as long as I have my system.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,299
    @JayCee any updates on yours now that you've had it in your system for a while?
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  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 653
    Clipdat wrote: »
    @JayCee any updates on yours now that you've had it in your system for a while?
    Currently typing a review. Will post later today.
    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, Perfectwave DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: Core Power Technologies EQUI=CORE 1800 Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends FLAC Streamer: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • verbverb Posts: 8,260
    edited June 13
    verb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Shunyata. No contest.

    Always loved the Denali's! A tad bit over budget, however! :smile:
    c54jxm3k9rkz.png

    So I've been following this thread and doing a little research on Shunyata. Lot's of raves here on CP and other sites. In fact, quite a lot of em all over.

    What makes the Shunyata so different? Well they have a patent on what they call Ferroelectric Field Coupling device. Fascinating. This technology apparently absorbs RFI/EMI within the Ferroelectric material, at the atomic level, and converts it to heat! To quote an excerpt from the patent "absorbs noise" Wow. Fascinating to me.

    9u7fsmz0x4yq.png

    The heart of a Shunyata device. Cylindrical tube filled with Ferroelectric material.

    at29stdr5i0x.png

    Here's a link to the patent:

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8,658,892.PN.&OS=PN/8,658,892&RS=PN/8,658,892
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,297
    verb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Shunyata. No contest.

    Always loved the Denali's! A tad bit over budget, however! :smile:
    c54jxm3k9rkz.png

    I have two of these 2 port Denali, one for each dedicated amp line. However, not many people are buying the 2 port model, so Shunyata is having a fire sale on them until they are gone. Now is your chance.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • verbverb Posts: 8,260
    BlueFox wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Shunyata. No contest.

    Always loved the Denali's! A tad bit over budget, however! :smile:
    c54jxm3k9rkz.png

    I have two of these 2 port Denali, one for each dedicated amp line. However, not many people are buying the 2 port model, so Shunyata is having a fire sale on them until they are gone. Now is your chance.

    Wow! 15 hundie off retail! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, PASS ACA Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: , Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 653
    Clipdat wrote: »
    @JayCee any updates on yours now that you've had it in your system for a while?

    Posted:
    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/186921/core-power-technologies-equi-core-1800-review/p1?new=1
    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, Perfectwave DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: Core Power Technologies EQUI=CORE 1800 Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends FLAC Streamer: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 653
    verb wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Shunyata. No contest.

    Always loved the Denali's! A tad bit over budget, however! :smile:
    c54jxm3k9rkz.png

    So I've been following this thread and doing a little research on Shunyata. Lot's of raves here on CP and other sites. In fact, quite a lot of em all over.

    What makes the Shunyata so different? Well they have a patent on what they call Ferroelectric Field Coupling device. Fascinating. This technology apparently absorbs RFI/EMI within the Ferroelectric material, at the atomic level, and converts it to heat! To quote an excerpt from the patent "absorbs noise" Wow. Fascinating to me.

    9u7fsmz0x4yq.png

    The heart of a Shunyata device. Cylindrical tube filled with Ferroelectric material.

    at29stdr5i0x.png

    Here's a link to the patent:

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8,658,892.PN.&OS=PN/8,658,892&RS=PN/8,658,892

    Just posted my Core Power Technologies CPT review. Coincidentally, didn't mention it, but there's a similar product coming to market through Underwood Hifi called DEEP=CORE that addresses RFI/EMI. It's an add on that's supposed to work with any power conditioner and allows for user adjustable tailoring. Not advocating it but my hope is that it's everything touted to be. MUCHO problems bringing it to market over the past few years. Here's the link:
    https://www.underwoodhifi.com/products/deepcore-1800

    Original beta testers under the former owner literally fried their systems. I've documented the sketchy history in my review. As stated by other CP members, Walter Liederman is a stand up guy and the new owner. He's convinced this will work. I'm looking forward to the initial release and reviews.
    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, Perfectwave DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: Core Power Technologies EQUI=CORE 1800 Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends FLAC Streamer: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,619
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have two of these 2 port Denali, one for each dedicated amp line. However, not many people are buying the 2 port model, so Shunyata is having a fire sale on them until they are gone. Now is your chance.

    What 20A power cable do you use with the Denali?

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,297
    edited June 15
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have two of these 2 port Denali, one for each dedicated amp line. However, not many people are buying the 2 port model, so Shunyata is having a fire sale on them until they are gone. Now is your chance.

    What 20A power cable do you use with the Denali?

    It’s in the sig. Shunyata Sigma HC power cables between the wall and the Denali. Then older Zitron Anaconda between the Denali and the amps. They all have the horizontal 20 amp connectors.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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