Let's Talk About Power Conditioners

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  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 610
    Clipdat wrote: »

    I chuckled when I stumbled on this thread 2 days ago....so perfectly timed since I've been eying power solutions over the past month. I ordered the Equicore 1800 w/"upgraded" cable last Friday, from Walter @ Underwood (purchased my PSA BHK pre and amp from him last Nov). Just received the 1800 approx. 2 hrs ago and am listening to my system as I type.

    The 1800 was sent separate from the premium cable but they arrived within an hour of each other. Used the stock cable, nothing fancy at all, for the first hour. First impression was hmmm, bass is sloppy, but seemed to somewhat settle down after a bit. I've been listening to my system all day, so had a fresh listening session to compare.

    Swapped out the stock cable and have been listening via the better cable for the past hour. Won't go into too much detail at the moment but have to say, so far, I'm not disappointed. Will explain more of my rational and a prior experience that led me to this type of product when I have a bit more time and more hours on the 1800.

    Unboxing pics and I cracked open the hood for a guts shot. Pics are out of order 'cause Vanilla did what it did:

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    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, Perfectwave DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: Core Power Technologies EQUI=CORE 1800 Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends FLAC Streamer: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,393
    Interested in hearing your review. Also notice you have the BHK gear, PM coming to pick your brain as I'm really interested.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,487
    edited May 15
    When I was knee deep last time, the super tower rig... I had built an incredibly accurate and fantastic sounding system. This system also happened to be incredibly non-musical.but could dissect the crap out of a recording.

    One of the best choices I made in this hobby was to sell all of that and walk away for a few years.

    My current setup is incredibly musical in comparison
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,180
    Good, clean power makes a big improvement to enjoying the music. I listen to my system for hours at a stretch, and never tire of it. Since I retired at the end of April I have the time, and I will be listening tonight until sunrise tomorrow. Couldn’t do that if it didn’t sound so freaking good.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 3,750
    What effect....if any....would proper grounding of your panel have on your power and noise floor? I would bet my retirement my house wasn't done properly. I believe the ground rod is supposed to go down 8 ft....and I thought I read somewhere 2 or 3 rods are preferred(?)
  • delkaldelkal Posts: 599
    I am beginning to wonder how much "power conditioning" improves sound vs just having an "audiophile" grade power strip. I have been making some power cords with mil -spec 12 ga silver plated teflon hookup wire, braided to reduce EMI, coupled with some cheaper (but pure copper) plugs. Unfortunately I realized I don't have enough receptacles to plug all of my shiny new cords into! My amp is plugged directly into the wall (but it is hard wired so no "upgraded power cord" there). The preamp and CD player I made the powercords for are just plugged into a cheap Monster power conditioner (yes, I know it is Monster but I got it as part of a system from Craiglist so it was basically free).

    I am thinking about now making a power strip with the same style power cord (mil-spec wire and plugs) then internally wiring it using hospital grade receptacles. Would making one quality power strip be a better option than having upgraded power cords and plugging them all into a crappy power conditioner.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,609
    Probably yes. But don’t confuse that with the difference one of the more expensive highly regarded PC’s on here would make.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,730
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    What effect....if any....would proper grounding of your panel have on your power and noise floor? I would bet my retirement my house wasn't done properly. I believe the ground rod is supposed to go down 8 ft....and I thought I read somewhere 2 or 3 rods are preferred(?)

    The ground rod needs to go down far into the constant moist ground to be effective. Multiple grounds can create different ground potentials and that can cause problems. Around my area that multiple GR's would be a huge no no to code.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,180
    edited May 15
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Good, clean power makes a big improvement to enjoying the music. I listen to my system for hours at a stretch, and never tire of it. Since I retired at the end of April I have the time, and I will be listening tonight until sunrise tomorrow. Couldn’t do that if it didn’t sound so freaking good.

    Sharks win game 2. Now I definitely will be up all night listening to tunes with good, clean power. :)
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    What effect....if any....would proper grounding of your panel have on your power and noise floor? I would bet my retirement my house wasn't done properly. I believe the ground rod is supposed to go down 8 ft....and I thought I read somewhere 2 or 3 rods are preferred(?)

    The ground rod needs to go down far into the constant moist ground to be effective. Multiple grounds can create different ground potentials and that can cause problems. Around my area that multiple GR's would be a huge no no to code.

    Bingo!!!
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    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,244
    Jesse, what's your approach to power in your systems?
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,393
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Jesse, what's your approach to power in your systems?

    This candidate is on public record, sir, as being for it.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,469
    edited May 16
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 610
    edited May 16
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    Post edited by JayCee on
    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, Perfectwave DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: Core Power Technologies EQUI=CORE 1800 Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends FLAC Streamer: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,244
    kharp1 wrote: »
    This candidate is on public record, sir, as being for it.

    Yeah, I was just hoping to know what actual product(s) he uses.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 610
    edited May 16
    Edit...DaveHo removed his question but hopefully he doesn't mind me summarizing to add context to this reply as I didn't quote it and he changed his post prior to my post. Dave asked why the $2K MSRP based on what he saw in my guts shot posted above...

    @DaveHo, good question. What I've read says approx $300-500 in parts. It's a balanced transformer and the premise of the design. Reportedly there was a year+ of research and 11 different designs to arrive at the final product. My guess, like anything, cost is partly based on research, assembly and....drum roll please....what the market will pay. I didn't pay MSRP....paid $1399 shipped and it included a "$399 Free Cable". Very nice "looking" cable, significantly larger and very pretty vs. stock, but, I've made very good cables for significantly less that also look nice. Again, cost is subjective after you add research, materials, performance and perceived value.

    I purchased the 1800 based on perceived value after my own due diligence with respect to cost vs performance claim. I could've purchased "a big **** transformer" :smile: and DIY'd it but I'm not an EE and have no basis to experiment. Especially when it has to do with power. Crossovers, caps, soldering...no problem, but I'm not into blowing my gear up or worse. :wink:

    The original design had the outlets wired in series vs. parallel and thinner gauge wire. Some DIYers changed the configuration...better outlets, increased the wire size and used the push type connectors for ease of assembly (vs. terminating wire and mounting to a single post). Resulted in positive results.

    The current version, as of last month, incorporated these changes...minus "better" outlets. I was offered upgraded outlets and a bit longer delivery time for $200. Going forward, I can do that myself if I feel the need.

    Not to add to the drama but for historical perspective it's worth noting....prior to last month there was a lot of controversy with the owner of Core Power Technologies, his business dealings and health issues. I only mention this because if anyone's reading this and does further research they might get caught up in the drama that ensued. I was reading through posts that started in 2016 and they had my attention with respect to Equicore products. It wasn't until 2 days of reading through years of posts that I discovered the turmoil with the company.

    End result is Walter Liederman, Underwood HiFi, stepped in and purchased the inventory, the rights to the product and made the changes to the 1800 that I mentioned above. I've purchased from Walter in the past and, based on my research, he has a very good reputation.

    I love my PS Audio gear but can't bring myself to spend $5K+ for the Perfectwave P series. The Equicore is my budget solution in pursuit of mo better sound. I will post listening impressions after a bit more time, but, suffice to say, I'm not displeased after my first day with it.
    Post edited by JayCee on
    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, Perfectwave DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: Core Power Technologies EQUI=CORE 1800 Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends FLAC Streamer: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • DaveHoDaveHo Posts: 2,469
    Thanks for the details. I was hoping nobody saw my original post as it seemed like a bit of a bash which wasn't cool on my part. Looks like I was too slow. :*

    I guess when I see a product sold as a power conditioner/suppressor I expect to see more to the guts than a transformer. If it does what it advertises & you like the sound, rock on.
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 610
    edited May 16
    DaveHo wrote: »
    Thanks for the details. I was hoping nobody saw my original post as it seemed like a bit of a bash which wasn't cool on my part. Looks like I was too slow. :*

    I guess when I see a product sold as a power conditioner/suppressor I expect to see more to the guts than a transformer. If it does what it advertises & you like the sound, rock on.

    No problem, I appreciate the response. I knew there would be some sort of response but the facts are what they are....ie. the build. Can't say my gut reaction is much different than yours and, wholeheartedly agree, the devil is in the details. It's the end result (sound) that will be the deciding factor.

    Thanks again for the reply. Alles klar as my Deutsch friends say.😉👍

    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, Perfectwave DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: Core Power Technologies EQUI=CORE 1800 Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends FLAC Streamer: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,393
    We also need to consider that when we look at a product and see a collection of parts that we can dissect by price, we don't consider the research and all the product burnt through to get to the end result, plus, warranty costs are built in to the final price.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,609
    I and I will echo the sentiments regarding Walter, stand up guy offering great prices on great gear. I too questioned the guts of that PC but if Walter believes in it, it must do something great.
    Let us know how it performs after some break in time.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,244
    Thanks for the photos, info, and thoughts so far @JayCee! Looking forward to hearing more about it's performance after you spend a few weeks with it.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,730
    edited May 16
    Well if it sucks maybe it would make a nice 1800va Dreadnought.....








    Lol :D :D :D

    Just kidding
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 610
    edited May 17
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Well if it sucks maybe it would make a nice 1800va Dreadnought.....

    Lol :D :D :D

    Just kidding

    Actually, that thought did cross my mind. Part of why I peeked inside was because of this.

    Buried somewhere in one of the early Dreadnought threads, when discussing w/the manufacturer re. the provenience of said inductor and application to SDA's, it was stated the 1000VA was designed for an audio company for use in a proprietary product. Wouldn't reveal who it was for and, if I remember correctly, there are no revealing details on the 1000VA.

    Hmmmmm....nope, looks nothing like our beloved 1000VA. Appear to be extra windings spaced around the inductor. There are #'s on the label pics I posted above but part of it is obscured. I searched the net for what I could make out but no hits. Will do a bit more disection to uncover the label at a later date. Curious minds want to know.....:wink:
    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, Perfectwave DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: Core Power Technologies EQUI=CORE 1800 Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends FLAC Streamer: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,730
    Yea we both know that it takes a special torrid for the Dreadnought.
    Good luck with the research.
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,324
    Another tidbit of information I've discovered with my emi measuring tool. 8' modern fluorescent light fixtures are by far the noisiest components I've measured thus far. They're much noisier than dimmer switch controlled led lighting which are now second on the list. Strangely the older 8' and 4' light fluorescent fixtures do not add any additional noise. My guess is it's due to the lighter weight (cheaper) transformers in the new lighting?
  • verbverb Posts: 8,010
    joecoulson wrote: »
    If I’m being honest, although it started with the love and passion of music in its purest form, it has at times become a chase of gear as a priority. I have now come to a point where I have to slow down and start enjoying more tunes as my system does sound really good to me and I need to be grateful for that.

    Good advice Joe. Now if only to heed it! I'm speaking of myself, of course! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,730
    My guess is it's due to the lighter weight (cheaper) transformers in the new lighting?

    Ding ding ding....
    Them old PCB filled tar filled heavy suckers were good for sumthin..

    Most of the newer are switching type power supplies and noisy....

  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,393
    We've been switching every light in our plant over to LED. Took down a couple hundred 8ft fluorescents last week, some had been hanging 40 years. Some had extremely heavy ballasts and some weighed next to nothing. I'm glad they're gone, hate those things.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII Upgraded by Rich Brkich Pre
    Butler Audio TBD 2250 Amp
    PS Audio DirectStream DAC and MemoryPlayer Transport
    LSA-1 Statement
    SVS SB4000 & SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

    Backup Gear:
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,659
    edited May 18
    JayCee wrote: »
    DaveHo wrote: »
    Thanks for the details. I was hoping nobody saw my original post as it seemed like a bit of a bash which wasn't cool on my part. Looks like I was too slow. :*

    I guess when I see a product sold as a power conditioner/suppressor I expect to see more to the guts than a transformer. If it does what it advertises & you like the sound, rock on.

    No problem, I appreciate the response. I knew there would be some sort of response but the facts are what they are....ie. the build. Can't say my gut reaction is much different than yours and, wholeheartedly agree, the devil is in the details. It's the end result (sound) that will be the deciding factor.

    Thanks again for the reply. Alles klar as my Deutsch friends say.😉👍
    Balanced power using a Toroidal transformer in a great way to go if one is willing to spend the money. Many recording and mastering studios use the same thing. While $2000 seems like a lot there are others out there for more money. So, the cost is subjective. Keep in mind here are 1200 VA transformers in the $100 range some of the larger, low noise, high efficient ones can cost $200-$700 or more. I'm a DIY type and one can built something like this for much less. Here is a guide using a 2000 VA transformer that cost about $250 back in 2003 at the time of the writing.

    https://hometheaterhifi.com/volume_10_3/feature-article-isolation-transformer-8-2003.html
    The canadian company seems to offer good quality and look to offer solutions:
    https://www.plitron.com/custom-toroidal-transformers/power-conditioning-2/

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    Also, Toroid a USA co. in MD offers some at nice prices.
    https://toroid.com/Products/Balanced-Transformers

    1000 VA - $531
    https://toroid.com/Home/Product-Details/ProductID/32

    1500 AV - $578
    https://toroid.com/Home/Product-Details/ProductID/33

    2000 VA - $872
    https://toroid.com/Home/Product-Details/ProductID/34


    Also, These guys have some nice offerings that are higher priced but less than the typical audiophile brands.

    600 VA - $599
    https://power-holdings-inc.com/Keces-BP600-Balanced-Isolation-Power-Conditioner-p137036164

    1200 VA - $999
    https://power-holdings-inc.com/Keces-BP1200-Balanced-Isolation-Power-Conditioner-p137036175

    2400 VA - $1699
    https://power-holdings-inc.com/Keces-BP2400-Balanced-Isolation-Power-Conditioner-p137036186
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,730
    edited May 18
    Excuse my ignorance. What advantage is there in the higher torrid sizes. In other words what does going from 1200va to the 2400va or larger? Is that just the ability to add more outlets? Or is there an advantage with large power hungry power amps.
    I think I know the answer just checking to see if my thinking is correct.

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