VTL 2.5 PreAmp in the House!

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  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,266
    could it be the difference in tubes?
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800, Usher R1.5
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  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    marvda1 wrote: »
    could it be the difference in tubes?

    Yep that's my next iteration. :smile:

    I mean, they were both phenomenal, IMO. Being a tube newbie, I wanted to pick out as much difference as I could, albeit ever so slight.
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,229
    edited January 6
    I can't believe I just saw someone else using Juno Reactor - Bible of Dreams as a test CD. My eyes went like this O.O and I did a double take. This has been one of my favorite albums and a go-to test CD for me for years. Huge Juno Reactor fan, I own almost all of his releases.

    You gotta listen to some of his stuff on vinyl!

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    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    That's cool Drew! I just recently got a taste, and really like em! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,921
    How do you minimize the influence of the tube compliment? Tubes can make or break a rig. I'm pretty sure the 2 use different tubes in a different configuration.

    I've always had a hard time comparing tube gear head to head, since tubes can flavor a piece one way or another.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    heiney9 wrote: »
    How do you minimize the influence of the tube compliment? Tubes can make or break a rig. I'm pretty sure the 2 use different tubes in a different configuration.

    I've always had a hard time comparing tube gear head to head, since tubes can flavor a piece one way or another.

    H9

    Yep I’m seeming that. I’m using 12AU7 and 12AT7 pairs on the VTL.
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,840
    @verb How do you like the tube preamp sound? I am thinking of going with a tube pre and SS power soon. Trying to research some good preamps that can be had for under $600 used.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Adcom GFA-545
    TT: Pioneer PL510

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Polk RTA11TL
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7
    Yamaha AV-34

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,921
    edited January 7
    Cody, look for an Eastern Electric Mini-Max tube pre. Stellar unit within your budget.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,840
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Cody, look for an Eastern Electric Mini-Max tube pre. Stellar unit within your budget.

    Thanks! Was also thinking of stretching the budget a little. I found a nice Odyssey Candela for just a smudge more than my budget.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Adcom GFA-545
    TT: Pioneer PL510

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Polk RTA11TL
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7
    Yamaha AV-34

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
    "Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
    "Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member
  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    @verb How do you like the tube preamp sound? I am thinking of going with a tube pre and SS power soon. Trying to research some good preamps that can be had for under $600 used.

    I love it! Overall soundstage is drastically improved. Musically a lot smoother too. The Rotel 1580, while no slouch, was more analytical and a bit on the thin side. IMO of course. When the VTL had all the drama, and I swapped the Rotel back in, my impression was wow! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 1,840
    verb wrote: »
    @verb How do you like the tube preamp sound? I am thinking of going with a tube pre and SS power soon. Trying to research some good preamps that can be had for under $600 used.

    I love it! Overall soundstage is drastically improved. Musically a lot smoother too. The Rotel 1580, while no slouch, was more analytical and a bit on the thin side. IMO of course. When the VTL had all the drama, and I swapped the Rotel back in, my impression was wow! :smile:

    I'm looking to inject some musicality and emotion into my tunes. It's just a tad too clean if you know what I mean. I don't need no white glove service in this audio game.
    Living room

    Mains: Paradigm 90P
    Lows: Velodyne CHT12, Pioneer SW-8Mk2
    Power: Marantz SR7000
    Tv: Samsung UHD 55' Curved 4k

    2 Channel Den

    Mains: SDA2B Upgraded XOs and Binding Posts
    Pre: Denon PRA-1200
    Power: Adcom GFA-545
    TT: Pioneer PL510

    Noggin Rockin'

    Phillips L2
    Harman Kardon CL
    Little dot 1+/GE JAN 5654w

    Closet of Dreams:

    Polk RTA11TL
    New Large Advents 25th Anniversary Edition
    Bravo V2/RCA Clear top Conn branded 12AU7
    Yamaha AV-34

    "Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
    " I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
    "Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
    "Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
    "Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member
  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    Yep. For me it was amazing. Even for this newbie!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,229
    You might want to consider adding in some well recorded vocals to your test CDs. @msg made a good point about this that has stuck with me. In some cases, it's easy to make electronic music sound good. It's more difficult and therefore a better test to be able to reproduce the human voice, since there's arguably a lot more nuance and depth to it.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    Clipdat wrote: »
    You might want to consider adding in some well recorded vocals to your test CDs. @msg made a good point about this that has stuck with me. In some cases, it's easy to make electronic music sound good. It's more difficult and therefore a better test to be able to reproduce the human voice, since there's arguably a lot more nuance and depth to it.

    Yep gotcha. Appreciate the feedback!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,391
    Ya know man, your slacking on your reviews....unless I missed them somewhere.

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  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    tonyb wrote: »
    Ya know man, your slacking on your reviews....unless I missed them somewhere.

    Dude previous page! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • msgmsg Posts: 4,375
    edited January 7
    Clipdat wrote: »
    You might want to consider adding in some well recorded vocals to your test CDs. @msg made a good point about this that has stuck with me. In some cases, it's easy to make electronic music sound good. It's more difficult and therefore a better test to be able to reproduce the human voice, since there's arguably a lot more nuance and depth to it.
    Yeah, this was funny, I remember joking about this after I called it "listening to real music". We share an enjoyment for electronic music, but exactly as you say, it's easier to have it sound good.

    One of my favorite test tracks is Ruth Moody's Cold Outside
    Lots of pleasant detail and I really nice bass lead-in, or whatever you call it. I tried looking that up but Google failed me.
    h73jqv9kh3di.png

    Here's a link to the track to check out.
    Try not to cry, you little !@#$%es.
    (ha! it actually worked, hiding this in a spoiler so it doesn't fling out a giant YouTube preview all over the thread.)

    Now if you'll excuse me, I've got corndogs roasting.
    (I don't know why I do it to myself. Oh. Yes, I do. They're friggin' delishus)
    I disabled signatures.
  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    edited January 7
    I love Bass! :smile: Nice tune! I'm gonna add it!

    Wow - Roasted corndogs? Mmmm.
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,635
    Clipdat wrote: »
    You might want to consider adding in some well recorded vocals to your test CDs. @msg made a good point about this that has stuck with me. In some cases, it's easy to make electronic music sound good. It's more difficult and therefore a better test to be able to reproduce the human voice, since there's arguably a lot more nuance and depth to it.

    First off. Nice review. Nice software

    2nd. I'm almost certain your NSD DAC and Furman conditioner were here in my crib ... both very solid units (small world, eh?)

    Thrice. Altho, some disagree. There are SQ improvements when rolling much better tubes into the 2 less important positions. Those modern EH tubes are meh, at best

    Lastly. If you're into female vocals, I've got 2 up 'n comers for you:
    Laura Fygi and Linda Ronstandt. lol
    My preferences lean toward any of the 3 albums backed by LR & the Nelson Riddle Orchestra
    Laura Fygi's vocals are hypnotic
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Tubes can make or break a rig. I'm pretty sure the 2 use different tubes in a different configuration.
    H9

    The Cary uses a quad of 6SN7s and I think the VTL 12at7 & 12au7

    verb wrote: »
    However today, when I put a full compliment of new tubes in (CBS 12AT7's from @heiney9 and the spare Mullards 12AU7's that came with it) it is now dead quiet.

    If you're up for it . . . I've got the good Adcom GFP-750 waiting for audition
    Passive, baby . . . passive
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Definitive Technology BP-2
    DAC North Star Design Supremo
    Source PSA PWT & Oppo 105
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Pre Cary SLP-98 F1
    Center Salk HT2C
    Wires MIT S3.3
    PSA PC AC-12
  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    Thanks Dog! Yep a small world! I appreciate the comments. Learning here, need to add some vocals to the list of test tunes. Evanescence (Amy Lee) comes to mind!

    I've always wondered why when reading a review on line, the reviewer has such (for me) an esoteric list of music that they play. Most of which I was unfamiliar. Now I know why. Testing the system!

    I'm into the tube journey for sure. I'll certainly post my progress along the way!

    The Adcom, seems to be the most coveted pre of their line! She's a beauty for sure!

    I'm up for it!

    Gotta get you over to the crib and compare notes. Teacher/Student thing, if ya know what I mean. And bring the remote for the Cary! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,635
    edited January 7
    verb wrote: »

    Gotta get you over to the crib and compare notes. Teacher/Student thing, if ya know what I mean. And bring the remote for the Cary! :smile:

    I'd like to hear those BigBoys sing!
    The Cary remote only does vol and the Adcom, well. We won't go there just yet ...

    If they'd only make a remote to my specs!!

    edit: for the record I'm a perpetual student
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Definitive Technology BP-2
    DAC North Star Design Supremo
    Source PSA PWT & Oppo 105
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Pre Cary SLP-98 F1
    Center Salk HT2C
    Wires MIT S3.3
    PSA PC AC-12
  • verbverb Posts: 4,472
    Yep. The VTL remote does the same. Plus mute.

    The EAR does not have a remote! Oh no! :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Rega RP1 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs DAC, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1 transport, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
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