The new Marantz PM and SA KI Ruby

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    It appears the PM-14S1 and SA-14S1 are going to be replaced with the PM-12 and SA-12, which happen to be very similar to the KI-Ruby gear.
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  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,795
    F1nut wrote: »
    It appears the PM-14S1 and SA-14S1 are going to be replaced with the PM-12 and SA-12, which happen to be very similar to the KI-Ruby gear.
    Some will be happy to upgrade, and others will be lucky when the 14s hit the secondary market.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    Some good insights to the Marantz gear.

    https://www.marantz.jp/jp/10_12series/index.html
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  • verbverb Posts: 4,009
    Exquisite pieces! Wow!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Micro Seiki MB14 TT, VTL 2.5 Preamplifier, Marantz CD6006 CDP, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, AQ Diamondback (version 1) RCA IC's, MIT Terminator2 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC, Marantz CD-1, Marantz AMP-1, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, Polk PSWi225 wireless sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated, Project BoxE, Polk TSi200's
    Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
  • smglbrthsmglbrth Posts: 1,083
    Interesting that the new CDP/SACD player weighs more than the new integrated!
  • spongersponger Posts: 260
    edited September 30
    Probably might have something to do with Polk's parent company, Sound United, acquiring D+M holdings in early 2017. For example, the S35 center channel is featured on Marantz's website.

    But even if that's not why, the Sigs have style. They are a unique and classy looking speaker. Polk's vid on youtube of the story on how the Sigs were designed is fascinating. They were trying to emulate the aesthetic character of acoustic guitars. The result is an impactful interpretation both visually and sonically IMO.

    That said, a brand like Marantz I think we can all agree also differentiates itself from other products with its unique stylings. From its portholes to the gold colored UI, they're like the art deco of home theater. That's how I see it anyway. From the HDAM "warmth" to the reissue receivers some years back, part of the appeal of Marantz is its vintage character.

    So in that sense the sigs and uber pricey hi fi Marantz hardware do complement each other on stage despite the contrasting target markets.

    Not to mention I think my S15s sound terrific. That old 3312CI powering them IMO is a better source than most X series denons of today that don't have discrete amp channels, and which are using AKM multi-channel DACs that are found in $500 Onkyos. 6XXXX series and up probably ok especially being Japan made, but 4XXX and down were not impressive. I think people are paying for those DSPs and newer immersive sound codecs.

    Also, some are saying that those S60s couldn't be transparent without extensive room treatment. But, can the same not be said about a lot of speakers that cost a lot more? Digital Trends, which usually reviews multi-thousand dollar speakers said the only failing of the Sigs is bitey highs. But my experiences are that Audyssey took care of that IMO.

    So to me this vid made a lot of sense for a couple of reasons.
    Denon AVR 3312CI
    S15
    Sony 790S
    Denon DP 300f
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    The Marantz website doesn’t show the S35 or any Polk speaker.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • spongersponger Posts: 260
    F1nut wrote: »
    The Marantz website doesn’t show the S35 or any Polk speaker.

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    Denon AVR 3312CI
    S15
    Sony 790S
    Denon DP 300f
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    What site are you looking at because I do not see that anywhere on the US site.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    Found it in the news section at Marantz UK. I wouldn't exactly call that featured, but whatever.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • spongersponger Posts: 260
    edited September 30
    https://www.us.marantz.com/us/Pages/Home.aspx

    It makes a cameo appearance in the carousel.
    Denon AVR 3312CI
    S15
    Sony 790S
    Denon DP 300f
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    edited September 30
    I stand corrected, it is on the US site if one scrolls through the stuff at the top of the home page on the standard site. I use the mobile site, which it is not on.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • spongersponger Posts: 260
    That would make sense as I'm on a lap top.

    Also, D+M products make numerous appearances on Polk's FB feed. In one post Polk says something to the effect of these speakers go great with this Denon receiver.
    Denon AVR 3312CI
    S15
    Sony 790S
    Denon DP 300f
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 40,631
    I think DEI/Sound United would be wiser to leave the brands separate.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 11,475
    It's the new cross marketing way Jesse.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    edited November 24
    Anyone get their ears on a SA-KI Ruby yet?
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    Anyone have any thoughts about how this player up-converts redbook/PCM to DSD? Pros or cons of this approach?
  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 284
    edited November 26
    https://www.musicdirect.com/disc-player/Marantz-SA-KI-RUBY-SACDCD-Player-and-DAC-OPEN-BOX

    use cmob10 to get an addtional 10% off this open box item! (today only)
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 11,475
    SIHAB wrote: »
    https://www.musicdirect.com/disc-player/Marantz-SA-KI-RUBY-SACDCD-Player-and-DAC-OPEN-BOX

    use cmob10 to get an addtional 10% off this open box item! (today only)

    I'd love to get my ears on one.
    One day
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    edited November 28
    I believe this is the production version:

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    This image has been around a while, so I believe this is the pre-production version. Interesting to see the slight differences.

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    edited November 28
    And while we're at it, what I believe is the production version of the integrated:

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    Close up of SA-KI Ruby DAC board, showing two Analog Devices ADSP-21489 chips:

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    edited November 28
    More build quality details inside the SA-KI Ruby:

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    I wonder if she enjoys critical listening?

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 4,965
    edited November 28
    Ahem, back to business, close up of SA-KI Ruby analog output stage:

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    It seems chintzy to me that the RCA jack wires plug into those little white clips. But what do I know about electronics design?

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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,519
    That open box SA-KI piece didn't last very long at all at 3,300.00!

    Drew, did you get it? :)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 6,519
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I wonder if she enjoys critical listening?

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    Man that set looks beautiful in that champagne finish. :o <3 wow!
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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