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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,679
    errrr I hate waiting. bummer you can't go to the UPS hub and pick them up on Saturday.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 756
    alan78 wrote: »
    See...svs shipped today via FedEx and..it will be here Saturday! UPS shipment that went out Tuesday.....yep still showing Monday. Sigh..

    Unfortunately it might take a little longer then that. Apparently there was an incident that effected both shipments.

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    ;)


    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    Hahahaha just got notification that my screen delivery for tomorrow has been delayed due to mechanic delivery issues.... @TNTsTunes nailed it! Hahahaha only UPS..did I say How much I hate UPS! And when it does arrive it will be all beat up!
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,679
    at least it's not OnTrac....
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    DVR in hand! C'mon sub!

    So tomorrow when my sub comes in I'm going to hook up the dvr and the sub. Since I don't habe my speakers I'm going to hook up my HTiB speakers and see what happens. I'm guessing at low volume them will be fine as long as the low volume can pump out some bass.. Worse case is I blow them little things up..hehe
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,729
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    Gonna be honest with you, I'm not a fan of how you're trying to get this done. Not just you, A LOT of people approach it like you are, and it's a mistake.

    If you're on a tight budget, don't go for the whole system at once. You end up with key parts of the system that are going to let you down.

    Start with the KEY parts. Receiver, main stereo pair and a sub. Budget for good wiring and interconnects (does not have to cost a ton for good entry level stuff). I like Canare 4s8 or 4s11 for budget speaker wire and AudioQuest pearl HDMI cables are a GREAT wire for the $$.

    Shop smart and do it over a longer period and in the long run, you will have a FAR better system.

    Polk eBay store has the S50 towers for $175 each, the PSW 505 for $199 (if that's all you can swing). However, I personally MUCH prefer SVS for a sub but that's going well outside of your mentioned budget.

    Accessories4less has something like the Denon X4300 or Yamaha RX-A1060 for $700.

    Then save for center, then do surrounds, then in the long run or when it quits buy a better sub...

    It will take longer, but you'll have better results.

    That's what I did until I lost my mind. I was upgrading one thing at a time and eventually ended up with a decent second system. But then I lost my mind but now I have two fine systems and no money.
    Parlor: ifi iDSD Micro*Yamaha RX-A2030*Parasound Halo P5*Parasound Halo A-31*Parasound 2250v2*Emotiva XPA-200 Gen1*LSiM707 Fronts*LSiM706c Center*LSiM702f/x Surrounds*Monitor70 Series II Rears*Monitor40 Series II Presence*SVS PB2000 Sub X2*OPPO BDP-103D*Sony PS3*Samsung-55" LED 1080p Smart 3D HDTV UN55H7150AFXZA*TEAC TN-300*Wireworld Solstice cables* Wireworld Stratus power cables*Blue Jeans Cable LC-1's IC's*BJC Silver-Plated IC's* Bens Silver IC's

    Dungeon: Dancer Mini-Two Diamond*Auralic Aries Mini*Dayens Ampino Preamp*Dayens Ampino Monoblocks*North Star Intenso DAC*Wireworld Oasis cables*Wireworld Oasis IC's*Wireworld Aurora power cables*IFI nano IDSD bl*Pangea Silver USB*Cambridge CXU*

    Panamax MR5100*Panamax M8-AV-PRO*Furman PST-2+6

    Headgear: Sennheiser HD 558*Audio-Technica ATH-M40x*Sennheiser HD 598 Cs*Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7*Philips SHP9500S* Sennheiser 6xx

    Hello Kitty boombox

    Spare sortta: Usher N-6361* ifi iDsd nano*Marantz 1504* RX-A1040*Emotiva XPA-1L Gen2 X2*Emotiva XPA-3 Gen2*CSiA6 Center*Monitor40 Series II*SVS PB1000 Sub*Sony BDPS6500 Blu-ray player*POS 37" LCD*Douglas Connection Furez 12 AWG 2 Conductor*Blue Jeans Cable LC-1's IC's*Samsung BD-H5900 3D Blu-Ray*Usher N-6361


    Mikey081057 wrote: »
    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

    Modern physics would have us believe that the universe is made up of quarks, gluons, photons -- and morons

    Jesus H. C H R I S T - Afterburner - can you ever be courteous and stay on topic. If you want to blather on about "Family Affair" start your own dam thread! I get tired of your inane comments. You're not clever and you're not funny and most time you're posts are completely irrelevant to the topic.
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,679
    alan78 wrote: »
    DVR in hand! C'mon sub!

    So tomorrow when my sub comes in I'm going to hook up the dvr and the sub. Since I don't habe my speakers I'm going to hook up my HTiB speakers and see what happens. I'm guessing at low volume them will be fine as long as the low volume can pump out some bass.. Worse case is I blow them little things up..hehe

    might be a good way to start. be sure to Run Audyssey on the setup
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 4,729
    edited September 2017
    Just jumpin in here. If you are lazy or spineless like myself, choose your subs carefully because it's a biznitch returning them, or at least I think so cause I either kept or gave away mine (PICK UP ONLY) I never returned any of them.
    Parlor: ifi iDSD Micro*Yamaha RX-A2030*Parasound Halo P5*Parasound Halo A-31*Parasound 2250v2*Emotiva XPA-200 Gen1*LSiM707 Fronts*LSiM706c Center*LSiM702f/x Surrounds*Monitor70 Series II Rears*Monitor40 Series II Presence*SVS PB2000 Sub X2*OPPO BDP-103D*Sony PS3*Samsung-55" LED 1080p Smart 3D HDTV UN55H7150AFXZA*TEAC TN-300*Wireworld Solstice cables* Wireworld Stratus power cables*Blue Jeans Cable LC-1's IC's*BJC Silver-Plated IC's* Bens Silver IC's

    Dungeon: Dancer Mini-Two Diamond*Auralic Aries Mini*Dayens Ampino Preamp*Dayens Ampino Monoblocks*North Star Intenso DAC*Wireworld Oasis cables*Wireworld Oasis IC's*Wireworld Aurora power cables*IFI nano IDSD bl*Pangea Silver USB*Cambridge CXU*

    Panamax MR5100*Panamax M8-AV-PRO*Furman PST-2+6

    Headgear: Sennheiser HD 558*Audio-Technica ATH-M40x*Sennheiser HD 598 Cs*Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7*Philips SHP9500S* Sennheiser 6xx

    Hello Kitty boombox

    Spare sortta: Usher N-6361* ifi iDsd nano*Marantz 1504* RX-A1040*Emotiva XPA-1L Gen2 X2*Emotiva XPA-3 Gen2*CSiA6 Center*Monitor40 Series II*SVS PB1000 Sub*Sony BDPS6500 Blu-ray player*POS 37" LCD*Douglas Connection Furez 12 AWG 2 Conductor*Blue Jeans Cable LC-1's IC's*Samsung BD-H5900 3D Blu-Ray*Usher N-6361


    Mikey081057 wrote: »
    Self Control is over rated.
    Mr. Sharpe wrote: »
    Meh these were extra $70 as an open box item so it didn’t much to me either way:)

    Modern physics would have us believe that the universe is made up of quarks, gluons, photons -- and morons

    Jesus H. C H R I S T - Afterburner - can you ever be courteous and stay on topic. If you want to blather on about "Family Affair" start your own dam thread! I get tired of your inane comments. You're not clever and you're not funny and most time you're posts are completely irrelevant to the topic.
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,679
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Just jumpin in here. If you are lazy or spineless like myself, choose your subs carefully because it's a biznitch returning them, or at least I think so cause I either kept or gave away mine (PICK UP ONLY) I never returned any of them.

    darn dud where you live... next sub you give away I might do a road trip
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,679
    OH MY,,,, I said road trip not canoe trip.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    Dude this SVS sub is beautiful! Haha and I got an SVS shirt with it. I'll have it hooked up later this evening after I get my screen built and hung. Too bad I have to wait until Monday to get my signatures.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 91
    very nice. Worth the wait to quote the poet
    Carly Simon
    Studio 2 equipment;
    Yamaha a-s2100 Amp, CD-2100 CD player, T-S500 tuner
    Loudspeakers: Harbeth p3esr, Polk RT7
    Cables: Aural Harmony Sonnet Interconnect II, WireWorld Equinox 7 speaker,
    Black Cat silverstar 75 ohm digital, Signal Digital Power Cord, PS Audio Perfect Wave AC-3,
    Pangea SE14, Voltz supplied interconnects
    Optional: Arcam DV88 DVD/CD (HDCD) player, Polk SDS-400 speakers
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,679
    alan78 wrote: »
    Dude this SVS sub is beautiful! Haha and I got an SVS shirt with it. I'll have it hooked up later this evening after I get my screen built and hung. Too bad I have to wait until Monday to get my signatures.

    :) :) :) :)

    Wait till you get the speakers, they are a work of art.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    Well my denon does not seem to be putting a source out. I plugged HDMI from projector to the out on the receiver. Turn on and denon goes into set up and days use tv..but nothing..ugh
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,389
    You have to set up the receiver, all the inputs. They aren't plug and play like receivers of old. Did you read the manual ?
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    We don't need no stinking manuals! Haha

    Yes I've read it. I hooked up nothing but the denon out to my TV now. The TV does not show denon as a source. I would figure HDMI is plug and play. If not seriously enlighten me because I'm frustrated right now with it. I've even hooked up some speaker and went to the tuner and it locks on a tune but plays no music. I've tried the video passthrough with a DVD player and nothing goes through. I went into the menu on the small denon display and passthrough is on. HDMI's are all assigned. Now I'm no dummy when it comes to technology but dang if it sure dont seem like I'm doing something stupid. I am getting no output of anything video or audio.
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,673
    Might it be an "HDMI handshake" issue? I've had devices that wouldn't output HDMI until they were plugged in, unplugged, and then plugged in again.
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    I have reseated cables and power cables countless times and even tried different tv's and my projector. I'll habe to wait until tomorrow and call denon and see what they think.
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,673
    I figured you had already. Have you tried a different type of output besides HDMI?
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    I hadn't I have a component cable..may give that a try.
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,673
    edited October 2017
    I had to read back a week of posts to see what receiver you got. The X3300? Could it be an HDCP 2.2 issue?
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    Sorry yes x3300w. I thought that...cant find info on my bent ht2050. Sure would suck if that's it.
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    Looks like my projector is not hdcp 2.2 cpmpliant..now what? But that still doesn't seem like it would stop audio from the tuner even when all video output is unplugged?
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,673
    The last projectors I worked with had 5-wire BNC, so I don't know much about how they deal with newer connections. Sometimes if the output resolution doesn't match a TV's native resolution exactly, you will get no image, although it's odd that a home theater receiver would produce anything that wouldn't be instantly recognized.
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,673
    Are you trying to use analog out to an amp or do you have speakers hooked to it directly?
  • alan78alan78 Posts: 80
    Speakers hooked directly.
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,679
    Something is not right. I have never played with a projector but would figure it would work like a normal TV. HDMI is backwards compatible so it should work. Zone 2 might be turned on too, that can be a problem.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,673
    Page 227 of the manual has a few suggestions beyond the obvious speaker wire/phase tips.
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,679
    I remember seeing a setup video once. the guy had to use a PC monitor that had HDMI to setup everything and turn passthrough on. Doubt you will get sound till setup is ran.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    4 Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
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