The DEMON is coming...

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,883
    They are 25mb....
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • nooshinjohn
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    Have one on the way.... Inside the driver's door opening, you can tell where someone at the factory went nuts with a buffer because the entire inside of the jamb is caked with compound residue. The scratches on the hood are very subtle, and the scratches on the door are just deep enough to need a respray. The underbody shows no rust, at least as I would describe it, but there is the type of oxidation you expect to see when aluminum is exposed to the elements. This can even be found on some components under the hood, such as the intake.

    Perhaps I am expecting far too much from the car, but I did drive it around the block, and all I can say is HOLY F...................................................................

    This thing is FAST, and DANGEROUS if you do not respect what this wild animal can do, and will do if you don't know what you are doing. You can have a grin like the Joker, or a couple shillings placed on your eyelids to give St. Peter when you meet him.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,883
    nbrowser wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    They are 25mb....

    Try one...add hotmail.com to my username here...

    Sent... thanks.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    This thing is FAST

    Ridiculous fast. Almost 900hp? Forget about it. Have fun, be careful.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,879
    edited April 2018
    F1nut wrote: »
    The difference is the generations. Today we have baby boomers reliving their youth from the muscle car era. Millennials don't care about those things, heck a good percentage don't even drive, so to think there will be the demand for muscle cars 20 years from now doesn't make sense.

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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    Nice choice on the color. She looks niiice!
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    edited April 2018
    How much do those tires run? I'd be scared to find out. I just took off my snow tires and put summer tires on, my set of summer tires were done. $58 a tire brand new, most expensive ones they had. :D

    That car is sex on wheels.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    Nice choice on the color. She looks niiice!

    Yes, it is a nice looking car. Does it have just the driver's seat, or did you get the entire seat?
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 13,087
    Does it still have the helper springs installed for shipping or something? What's up with that ridiculous rear wheel gap?
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Does it still have the helper springs installed for shipping or something? What's up with that ridiculous rear wheel gap?

    Extra room for when you stomp on it and the rear end squats down?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,883
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Does it still have the helper springs installed for shipping or something? What's up with that ridiculous rear wheel gap?

    Extra room for when you stomp on it and the rear end squats down?

    Good theory, Google up classic Gasser Dragsters, they sit rather high on the axles. I'd surmise this to gain the most weight shift to the rear axle to provide as much traction as possible at launch.

    That is exactly right. This car transfers weight to the rear like no other factory car ever has. The car seems very compliant and easy to drive if you use featherweight pedal application, but if you think you can just drive it like a regular car and push the gas pedal like you would in a regular car, it will get away from you faster than you can blink.
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    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,683
    That is one bada$$ looking machine!!!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,883
    BlueFox wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    Nice choice on the color. She looks niiice!

    Yes, it is a nice looking car. Does it have just the driver's seat, or did you get the entire seat?

    The car is fully optioned, including the sunroof. The only item I did not check off was the blackout on the roof and trunk.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    VERY nice!
    Just a dude doing dude-ly things

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  • Jaybeez
    Jaybeez Posts: 748
    Holy Mackeral. You may have some local celebrities knocking on your door asking for a ride! What a beautiful car.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 13,087
    Are you going to accept it even with all the cosmetic dealer installed flaws that you mentioned earlier?
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The car is fully optioned, including the sunroof. The only item I did not check off was the blackout on the roof and trunk.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,883
    Not sure yet what direction it will take. The wife and I are going tommorow to see it in direct sunlight. The hood cannot be corrected without being painted. I also learned my car was one of the units that had rear main seal issues, which explains the nearly three month delay from build date to ship date.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,939
    Very nice John. They should bend over backwards to make you 1000% satisfied. Can't blame you one bit for being upset.
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,120
    F1nut wrote: »
    That is one bada$$ looking machine!!!

    Agreed, I wish I could own it.
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,329
    edited April 2018
    If they have to respray it in any fashion, I’d run away fast. Color matches are never perfect. Awesome looking car though
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,922
    edited April 2018
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Very nice John. They should bend over backwards to make you 1000% satisfied.
    I'll say.
    Can't blame you one bit for being upset.
    Absolutely.

    What does this imbroglio say about FCA? To my way of thinking, it's nigh-on unbelievable they could eff up something like this. I mean, do they do better or worse when you buy a 500?

    :(

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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,582
    IMHO, any kind of paint work will ruin its value. If your goal is to keep it low mileage & pristine to resell some time down the road, bail.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,922
    DaveHo wrote: »
    IMHO, any kind of paint work will ruin its value. If your goal is to keep it low mileage & pristine to resell some time down the road, bail.

    Not that my opinions matter one whit in this context, but I think that's an excellent point.

    As I recall, a key part of the strategy was to buy the vehicle as an investment (not that I can find direct reference to that in the early posts in this thread from the OP). The investment potential of this particular vehicle may well be compromised, perhaps significantly, given the vagaries of the rarefied, high-end collectors' market.



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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,406
    edited April 2018
    FCA is abysmal. I love the new Alfa's, but since FCA is involved, I'll never take a chance unless the track record magically gets a whole lot better over a long period of time.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,871
    edited April 2018
    Have owned Dodge since the 80's and never a problem and never left stranded....a combo of Rams, Dakotas, Wranglers and now a challenger which is a 707 hp daily driver that delivers lots of smiles with every mile, now the fit and finish on the wife's Ford is a whole nuther story..............
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,922
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    heiney9 wrote: »
    FCA is abysmal. I love the new Alfa's, but since FCA is involved, I'll never take a chance unless the track record magically gets a whole lot better over a long period of time.

    I love my JGC...I hate dealing with FCA on ANYTHING.
    Example, earlier this week I took my Jeep in for an oil change. When I got home, I went to change the brakes on it and noticed the access panel in the skid plate for the oil plug was missing.
    So I shot a text to my buddy at the dealer (he's the parts manager).
    He said he found it in the trash next to the oil tech's station. When I asked WTF?, he sent me the following screenshot:
    9matzp4d0yft.jpg

    So apparently, even though mine had one, it is not wanted/needed/blah blah blah.
    FCA...lol

    Well -- On the bright side, they were able to explain why it wasn't there! :|

    Reminds me of this:

    http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=160531
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,406
    edited April 2018
    All brands are going to have their issues. Lead times and product developments and gov't regs means a much shorter life cycle and many times the early production models are the guinea pigs...............

    But from what I've seen reported FCA is the terrible overall. Ever since FIAT and Marccione took over they have been much worse than before.

    Full transparency, I've never owned a Chrysler product. Just going on what I read and what friends. family, co-workers and acquaintances and workers at the plant have experienced.

    I don't want to turn this into an automobile war thread, it was simply an observation. For what the Demon is and what it costs, this type of thing is inexcusable.

    H9
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,939
    FWIW
    Drove next to a Jeep SRT...
    Saweeeeeet it had some serious low rumble and sounded like it had some fun ponies up front.
    Nice i liked. It was very close to the color if John's car.
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