The DEMON is coming...
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nooshinjohn wrote: »Lightman is all of the above..
Now that you mention that, John, I think I left out a few.
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Sparky.
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You are right on that count, and far too many that would get us banned for thinking of them.nooshinjohn wrote: »Lightman is all of the above..
Now that you mention that, John, I think I left out a few.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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If you were closer, I'd be happy to install PPF on it for you. I can't recommend 3M though, lately it's been a PITA to use/install. They've messed with the adhesive and it's reacting poorly with the color or print layer. Makes things more difficult to install than it used to be.
I've got a guy coming down from Chicago on thursday that does ExPel who does work for a local dealer here. A friend of mine uses him on all of his vehicles and is impressed with his workmanship. I bought a new black Lexus and it has the 3M on the partial hood and fenders from Lexus on the factory window sticker. I still haven't gotten a clear answer as to whether the dealer or factory installed the film? Maybe you might know?
I must say, I'm not impressed with the 3M film. There's some wrinkled areas and scratches will not compound out from paint correction. He's gonna cover the front bumper,headlights,rockers,bottom half of the doors, rear bumper sides,door handle cups,painted sill areas on door openings,A pillars, small area in front of sun roof,side mirrors,install clear door edge guards all for $1400. Does this sound reasonable to you?
I don't know what the rate is to have all of that covered but, it sounded pretty reasonable to me considering the fact he's coming to my house to install. Did you get training on install and how is your business? I'm almost considering becoming an installer myself if there's a market in my region. I'm not real sure though since my city is economically depressed. It's fascinating to watch you guys install this stuff.
You talking about that clear finished protection they put on them for the hood/mirrors/etc ?
I have that on my RX-350....hate it. Why ? While it works to some degree to protect from those little nicks and dings from road debri/rocks, it still doesn't protect against all of it. You can't really fix it either, and after a while looks like crap. You wax the car and the wax is caught along the lines and builds up making those lines more apparent over time.
Nothing is going to stop everything, I get that, and when you spend big bucks you want as much protection as you can get. I wish those people who make that hard shell candy coating for ice cream cones made something for automobiles .
I get it Tony. It's not a 100% but, they are making improvements on the product. Every time ya wax you take a tooth pick to clean up the edge. Some colors show it worse than others. My buds white Jeep shows it considerably. I'm not sure how it will look on black over time. I think it has a 10yr. warranty if I'm not mistaken, not sure though, I'll ask the installer. One nice thing about is if it gets mild scratches hot water clears it up. The 3M guy on here should chime in and give us pros & cons of the product. This car won't be a daily driver anyway since I'm retired. I just know our black RX is looking crappy with all the rock chips on it and I use Dr. Color Chip on it. If you use a thick wax on yours I could see why it would look bad on the edges. Don't know about your RX but, mine has very soft paint that chips quite easily. -
Sorry to hijack this thread Noosh. I'll start another one and see if Festyboy chimes in.
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Doc? I get it. He's one of the 7 dwarves! (I refuse to call them "dwarfs". That's like saying Toronto Maple Leafs. "Leaves" is the plural of leaf. Every backwater, cousin-kissin' numb-skull knows that.)We expect nothing less from you, Doc.
Anywhich, if Mark is "Doc", who here is Grumpy? Bashful? Dopey? Sneezy? Happy? Sleepy? Creepy? Junkie? Tipsy?
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mhardy6647 wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »
Doc? I get it. He's one of the 7 dwarves! (I refuse to call them "dwarfs". That's like saying Toronto Maple Leafs. "Leaves" is the plural of leaf. Every backwater, cousin-kissin' numb-skull knows that.)We expect nothing less from you, Doc.
Anywhich, if Mark is "Doc", who here is Grumpy? Bashful? Dopey? Sneezy? Happy? Sleepy? Creepy? Junkie? Tipsy?
Lightman is all of the above..
He's Peripatetic.
actually, maybe he is all seven -- rolled into one. Kind of a macrodwarf.
6'3" 210lb Dwarf......a vexing conundrum...
A roaming giant gnome....
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A roaming giant gnome....
Why am I put to mind of that rock classic Spill the Wine by Eric Burdon and War.
https://youtu.be/W77Kwh6f0TE...As I fell asleep and dreamed
I dreamed I was in a Hollywood movie
And that I was the star of the movie
This really blew my mind
The fact that me an overfed long haired leaping gnome
Should be the star of a Hollywood movie, hmmm...
(emphasis added)
EDIT: only the leaping gnome part -- not the overfed, nor the long haired nor any of that other stuff...
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If you were closer, I'd be happy to install PPF on it for you. I can't recommend 3M though, lately it's been a PITA to use/install. They've messed with the adhesive and it's reacting poorly with the color or print layer. Makes things more difficult to install than it used to be.
I've got a guy coming down from Chicago on thursday that does ExPel who does work for a local dealer here. A friend of mine uses him on all of his vehicles and is impressed with his workmanship. I bought a new black Lexus and it has the 3M on the partial hood and fenders from Lexus on the factory window sticker. I still haven't gotten a clear answer as to whether the dealer or factory installed the film? Maybe you might know?
I must say, I'm not impressed with the 3M film. There's some wrinkled areas and scratches will not compound out from paint correction. He's gonna cover the front bumper,headlights,rockers,bottom half of the doors, rear bumper sides,door handle cups,painted sill areas on door openings,A pillars, small area in front of sun roof,side mirrors,install clear door edge guards all for $1400. Does this sound reasonable to you?
I don't know what the rate is to have all of that covered but, it sounded pretty reasonable to me considering the fact he's coming to my house to install. Did you get training on install and how is your business? I'm almost considering becoming an installer myself if there's a market in my region. I'm not real sure though since my city is economically depressed. It's fascinating to watch you guys install this stuff.
You talking about that clear finished protection they put on them for the hood/mirrors/etc ?
I have that on my RX-350....hate it. Why ? While it works to some degree to protect from those little nicks and dings from road debri/rocks, it still doesn't protect against all of it. You can't really fix it either, and after a while looks like crap. You wax the car and the wax is caught along the lines and builds up making those lines more apparent over time.
Nothing is going to stop everything, I get that, and when you spend big bucks you want as much protection as you can get. I wish those people who make that hard shell candy coating for ice cream cones made something for automobiles .
I get it Tony. It's not a 100% but, they are making improvements on the product. Every time ya wax you take a tooth pick to clean up the edge. Some colors show it worse than others. My buds white Jeep shows it considerably. I'm not sure how it will look on black over time. I think it has a 10yr. warranty if I'm not mistaken, not sure though, I'll ask the installer. One nice thing about is if it gets mild scratches hot water clears it up. The 3M guy on here should chime in and give us pros & cons of the product. This car won't be a daily driver anyway since I'm retired. I just know our black RX is looking crappy with all the rock chips on it and I use Dr. Color Chip on it. If you use a thick wax on yours I could see why it would look bad on the edges. Don't know about your RX but, mine has very soft paint that chips quite easily.
I hear ya man, even Lexus doesn't make 'em like they used to. My 96 once got keyed and I asked the body shop to repair it to factory spec, no Earl Shibe paint jobs please.
Spec was something like 11 coats of paint and 3 coats primer. That car hardly ever chipped. My 09 chips like crazy if something hits it. Granted, certain colors are worse for showcasing the chips but I feel Lexus quality is slipping a bit from the 90's era models. I also have a 99 gs300 with 280 on the clock, and that body has less chips than my 09. Tell ya what though, none of my lexus cars ever had a speck of rust on them, even after 20 years.
In any event, nice ride you have, and the Demon I'm sure will be a monster.HT SYSTEM-
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Fleet mileage is a huge priority so if they can save weight, paint is one of the areas. Every little bit helps, especially on high volume cars/suvs, etc."Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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Fleet mileage is a huge priority so if they can save weight, paint is one of the areas. Every little bit helps, especially on high volume cars/suvs, etc.
I doubt it's because of weight for transportation purposes. Possibly weight to meet increasing MPG requirements. Another area where they have been cutting weight is with your rotors. My 90's era cars had rotors you could turn 3 times before replacing. Now, even new ones are so thin you have to replace them with every brake job....and they warp easily.
I don't want to de-rail John's Demon thread, so my apologies John. I'm sure you'll enjoy the new ride, and junior will too in 16 years when he steals those keys while your asleep. HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Where do these chase scenes find freeways with little traffic?Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Where do these chase scenes find freeways with little traffic?
Everywhere outside of California. Denver gets pretty bad, I'm sure Houston and Dallas do, etc. but man... California traffic is riiiiiidiculous. afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Where do these chase scenes find freeways with little traffic?
The chase was at 12:30 and the east side is all port and industrial2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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I like how they kept calling the car a doger or charger.... yep journalist are still on top of it
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The final takedown is how I picture Lightman at an Omega-Mu rush event...Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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Here is a still frame from the film "Phantasm". Not a
but I just thought I would post this here.
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Any word on your Demon yet?? At only 5k over dealer asking price yours should have been delivered as the ones being delivered to Fl were bought 10-15k over asking....
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I was just wondering if there had been any word on this one?
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Has the Demon been delivered yet?
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It is built and on hold now for more than a month...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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Burning in
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mhardy6647 wrote: »Burning in
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nooshinjohn wrote: »It is built and on hold now for more than a month...
What gives? -
The cars have had several issues pop up during assembly, including catching fire on transport trucks, rear main seal failure, fit and finish, mis-routed fuel lines... typical Dodge stuff.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it? -
You mean, being part of Fiat hasn't improved Chrysler's products?
In seriousness, it's good that they're trying to be proactive in fixing glitches before the car gets to its buyer -- especially in the case of a pricey "special".
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nooshinjohn wrote: »The cars have had several issues pop up during assembly, including catching fire on transport trucks, rear main seal failure, fit and finish, mis-routed fuel lines... typical Dodge stuff.
Sounds promising! Sounds safe!
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The tile of this thread should be,
The Demon is coming , apartPatriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel…….Samuel Johnson
Since we don’t know where we are going we have to stick together in case someone gets there….Ken Kesey
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.
– Kevin Alfred Strom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yQ7Wna1IZY
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