The DEMON is coming...

nooshinjohn
nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
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This morning, I placed an order for a 2018 Dodge Demon, in Octane Red! I can't wait to get my hands on that already legendary red key and fire it up. This is my very first new car and I am excited to begin tracking her progress as she is built. I think I will name her Christine!
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,960
    edited June 2017
    edit: cool.

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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    Congrats man, should be a cool ride for sure.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,904
    But if you want it to be worth a million dollars in 20 years you can't drive it. So where is the joy?

    BTW congrats
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,318
    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    But if you want it to be worth a million dollars in 20 years you can't drive it. So where is the joy?

    BTW congrats

    million dollars :* ?????
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 365
    Wow! Very cool. Do you have a lot of experience with high powered cars ? If not, just take it easy for a while. Probably will be the fastest production car of all time. Di you ever think a factory car could pull its front tires off the ground? Crazy!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    A day at Bob Bondurant is included, and I will be going to that for sure. The intent is to drive it a bit, but keep the miles very low.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    I think you are extremely optimistic on your assessment of it's potential appreciation over your chosen time period.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    But will it beat a Leaf at a red light...

    Ms Cleo sees many tickets in your future :D
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited June 2017
    Jstas wrote: »
    I think you are extremely optimistic on your assessment of it's potential appreciation over your chosen time period.

    Yep. Anything pegged as a collectors item today.........most likely won't ever be. That's not to say it won't have some value beyond MSRP and or typical depriciation, but staking ones future on a big windfall usually is a big disappointment. If it doubles in value that's a pretty solid investment.

    But then again who really knows for sure................maybe there will be a pot-o-gold at the end of your rainbow in 20 years.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    It is a risk, but given the track record of other very low volume cars and the historic nature of this particular car, it is a risk worth taking. I already have an offer on the table at double my buy price...
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    Very cool! I am still pretty sure I would beat you in a race in my 97 civic dx.

    Here's the deal, you win I get the dodge, I win you get the Honda. No need to hash out the details just say okay.
    Just a dude doing dude-ly things

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    I don' think it's much of a risk as it will always bring you as much or more than you pay if you use it very little and keep it pristine. Just doubt they will be selling at Barrett Jackson auctions in 20 years for $500K - 1M

    Really for it to be any value it needs to be properly stored and rarely driven, that's a PITA for the next 20 years. If you move you'll need a covered trailer, etc.

    And to buy something like that and not able to enjoy it..........well, to me, that's not worth it. Buy 2 and save 1......that's the ticket.

    Enjoy, new cars are fun.

    H9
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,904
    How long before you take delivery?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited June 2017
    I read they FCA are building them in the order of lowest payment. Meaning if you pay way over sticker you get yours much, much later and with a higher Serial number. They are trying to curtail the dealer gouging that goes on.

    So, it depends on what John paid relative to the other 3,299 customers.

    http://jalopnik.com/the-people-who-pay-the-most-for-a-dodge-demon-will-be-l-1796270712

    H9
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,655
    Congrats John.

    I already spoke to my dealer about the 2018 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk but their allotment is already spoken for by people with way more disposable income than I. And since they own all 5 of the local FCA dealerships, they are referring to the entire allotment, not just one store's. :'(
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Not being into cars, I had never heard of it, so I Googled it. $85K? Yikes. :o

    Have fun.

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    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    Cool car...I bought a 71 340 Demon back in the day...Hurst shift..Edelebrock Torquer manifold..Think I gave around 4k for it....That car LOVED the interstates..Just about the same color too...You're gonna have fun!...LOL!..
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited June 2017
    I have a limited production, insanely powerful, factory vehicle that is now 17 years old and while it has held value fairly well, it's no where near a million bucks in value. It's not even near it's purchase price. Even the few pristine, undriven, garage kept ones that I know of are only barely pulling in their original invoice numbers and they are 13-19 years old at this point.

    If you want to get that kind of investment out of it, better build a climate controlled garage for it, do a ton of preventative maintenance and just look at it a whole bunch because if it has any number of miles beyond reasonable delivery miles on it, it's value is going to plummet like a stone.

    No matter what fool is willing to pay $170K for a car he can go order himself for $85K.

    You're in for a HUGE disappointment in 20 years. However, when your kids are the same age as you will be in 20 years when you're severely disappointed, if they still have the car in the garage and it's in like-new condition, they might have a few hunnert grand on their hands. No where near a million, though.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    You're gonna have fun!...LOL!..

    No he's not!!! He's saving it as a huge windfall investment 20 years from now! Which means no touchy......just look.

    >:):D

    H9 >:)

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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    BlueFox wrote: »
    $85K? Yikes. :o

    What did you spend on your speakers? :D
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Not even half that. Plus I can use my speakers 24/7, and my home insurance covers them.

    He is into speaker wire territory. :)
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  • gudnoyez
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    How much trade in did you get on the Triangleart Reference?
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Msabot1 wrote: »
    You're gonna have fun!...LOL!..

    No he's not!!! He's saving it as a huge windfall investment 20 years from now! Which means no touchy......just look.

    >:):D

    H9 >:)

    20 years??....Hell...we could all be dead long before that!...Live For Today man...Live For Today....LOL!
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I already have an offer on the table at double my buy price...
    So you supposedly drop $85k on a car as an investment and have to think about an offer double that even before getting it? Alrighty then :*
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    Dealers here in SoCal are selling the cars with anywhere between 50 and 100k in markup. My car is just 5k over window, so I am buying it right. Valuation on anything like this is pure speculation, but I do know when the Hellcat launched, they were selling all day at twice the MSRP and they are not even in the same league as the Demon. History will tell, but i like my odds on this one.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited June 2017
    According to FSA people who pay way over the MSRP are going to be last in line to get their cars. Whether in reality that actually happens.....................we'll just have to see.

    The odds are with you if you let it sit in a humidity controlled environment and never drive it for 20+ years. The more you drive it, the more the future $$$$ fly's out the window. If it were me I'd take the $180K and find another one to buy, even if it's in a different state.

    H9
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    Yea..back in 65-66 nobody thought those Shelby GT350's would be worth what they are today either...You bought em..ran em,and when they burned up,you got another..or similar....Now one of those will bring in the modest six figures in fair shape...not bad for an under 4k shell out when new...Heck,I saw one that was a barn find that went for 100k...
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    The difference is the generations. Today we have baby boomers reliving their youth from the muscle car era. Millennials don't care about those things, heck a good percentage don't even drive, so to think there will be the demand for muscle cars 20 years from now doesn't make sense.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,318
    F1nut wrote: »
    The difference is the generations. Today we have baby boomers reliving their youth from the muscle car era. Millennials don't care about those things, heck a good percentage don't even drive, so to think there will be the demand for muscle cars 20 years from now doesn't make sense.

    Maybe put a 2018 Leaf in the garage for 20yrs????
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