Burnt out on this

mantis

DSkip wrote: »

mantis wrote: »

O and I didn't mention my 2014 Nissan Pathfinder is a piece of crap. It's the worse Nissan I have ever owned and the only one that is built horribly. Even Nissan isn't what they use to be.
My lease runs out this coming summer and I'm NOT getting another new Nissan.
I'm either going to get a new Dodge Durango RT v8 model or a used Nissan Pathfinder from 2005-2012 when they where built like a truck and of high quality. Those where real Pathfinder trucks not these sissy crappy 2013-current models.

I've got a 2013 JX35 and I have had zero issues with it and it's at 78k miles now. Maybe step up to their luxury brand?

My 2014 was 41k. Thats a pretty decent amount of money for a new vehicle. The transmission has had so many issues and it just now turned 27k on the OD.
The whole rug had to be replaced as it wasn't cut right from the factory. The molding around the front window just keeps coming off, it's been repaired 2 times now.
The entire body lines are all crooked , not one is straight like Nissan's claim to fame with their laser body lines.
The Paint chips like its just flaking off. The entire front of the car has many chips on it and this started around 3k miles on it. I complained about it and the service manager said it's normal for this vehicle to get a lot of paint chips due to it's shape. I call **** on that as my Murano was shaped similar and barely had any chips on it when I traded it in with 34k on it.
It sucks in the snow as it doesn't feel planted like the older pathfinders did and compared to the 2011 Murano I had, it really sucks. The Murano I felt felt safer in bad weather.
Nissan took the Truck and quality out of the Pathfinder and now your left with a oversized cheaper feeling Murano.
As far as moving up to Infiniti? I'm not feeling it.

WagnerRC

talking about build quality. It seems this slp-05 has left channel xlr not working on both inputs. wtf is up with that. send back a brand new preamp for repair...... cary is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

gce

My Marantz went out just out of warranty. Had to replace it with an Anthem. Seems like you just get things the way you like and something has a problem.

Joey_V

WagnerRC wrote: »

talking about build quality. It seems this slp-05 has left channel xlr not working on both inputs. wtf is up with that. send back a brand new preamp for repair...... cary is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

Dang that sucks. I wonder why that was. I'm on my 2nd 05, has been good so far. Knock on wood.

motorhead43026

I had to send my Parasound P5 back 3 times for volume pot replacement (2) and one digital input board. All in the first 6 months of ownership. Not knocking Parasound as sheet happens. That is what warranties are for.

pitdogg2

tonyb wrote: »

That's what they manufacture to Dan, the people who lease. You have the car 3 years, of course it should last that long with no problems. What about those who keep them 5-10 years ? Like everything else, as soon as the warranty is over, the games begin.

So then reviews of a 3 yr. old car then run as great....no problems. Good for the rep of the brand, promotes others to inquire about x brand. For owners though, who keep cars longer, a different picture might appear.

I don't know about other states, but here in the state of highway robbery, Illinois, you pay sales tax on a leased vehicle. So say a 30k car, you pay the 3k in sales tax, first month and last month payments, license, title, and other fee's and your at or over 4k to drive a car you don't own off the lot. When that lease ends, and providing you stayed under 10-12k miles a year they give you, you have to incur the same costs again for another vehicle. If you want to buy the car you leased at the end of that lease, you have to pay sales tax again. Don't know how they get away with that, but it is the state of highway robbery.

I remember when there was no down payment for leased vehicles. Now you have the same down payment as you would to buy the dang thing.

pitdogg2

heiney9 wrote: »

tonyb wrote: »

That's what they manufacture to Dan, the people who lease. You have the car 3 years, of course it should last that long with no problems. What about those who keep them 5-10 years ? Like everything else, as soon as the warranty is over, the games begin.

So then reviews of a 3 yr. old car then run as great....no problems. Good for the rep of the brand, promotes others to inquire about x brand. For owners though, who keep cars longer, a different picture might appear.

I don't know about other states, but here in the state of highway robbery, Illinois, you pay sales tax on a leased vehicle. So say a 30k car, you pay the 3k in sales tax, first month and last month payments, license, title, and other fee's and your at or over 4k to drive a car you don't own off the lot. When that lease ends, and providing you stayed under 10-12k miles a year they give you, you have to incur the same costs again for another vehicle. If you want to buy the car you leased at the end of that lease, you have to pay sales tax again. Don't know how they get away with that, but it is the state of highway robbery.

Tony if I'm understanding you correctly, this year in Illinois you only pay tax on the part of the leased vehicle you will actually be using (paying for), not the entire cost of the car. This is new for 2016 and going forward.

Previously you'd be at a disadvantage of leasing a car because of the ridiculous sales tax on the entire price. Illinois is in-line with how more states collect sales tax on leased vehicles now.

So let's say the negotiated price of the vehicle is 30K and you're leasing for 24 months and your total lease payments are 10K. Now in Illinois you only pay sales tax on the 10K not the entire 30K. The old way was to pay tax on the entire 30K even though you were only paying 10K in actual payments during the lease period.

H9

Unless you live in Bloomington Brock. Lease that car in Rockford get back to Bloomington then you will get hit for city sales tax....Live in Illinois you had better get used to grabbing you ankles.

heiney9

My off topic point is, it's more conducive to lease in Illinois today vs. a year ago. Grabbing the ankles is almost a permanent position if you live in Illinois. Jan 1 we get another alcohol tax increase, yay!

tonyb

WagnerRC wrote: »

talking about build quality. It seems this slp-05 has left channel xlr not working on both inputs. wtf is up with that. send back a brand new preamp for repair...... cary is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

That sucks Bob, I have not heard of that problem with the 05's. Could be something got jarred loose in the shipping process. Did you get a chance to listen to it anyway ?

WagnerRC

Yes the rca input sound very good. I will open the cae up today and take a look inside before I look into sending it back for repair. The sound is very good for sure and the remote is very precise. More to follow.

WagnerRC

I don't see anything loose but there is one connection point with no wiring and no wires loose to connect.

msg

Funny how this thread's morphed to expression of frustration of across the board.
I feel like an old man longing for quality of product past when I get annoyed about quality decline.

I was remarking to a friend the other day about the realization that pretty soon, customer satisfaction frustration won't matter at all, because the people who are even aware of a time that high quality product ever existed won't be around anymore. All that will be left is consumers who've grown to expect what we know to be premature product failure and poor service. To them it will simply be routine. What what will continue on is the sacrifice of quality or service for maximized profits. If you think about it, it's really the only way things can go when management is continually pushing for greater and greater profits, while sucking companies dry of the profits with obscene management salaries and bonuses. You can only get but so thin on quality before you have to start sacrificing the product or service or employees.

Converse All-Stars Still irks me. the ones that Nike brought back out of Asia are complete garbage. Like walking on slats of bendy mdf. The only true All-Stars are the ones that came out of the US plants in NC and TX. You suck, Nike.

Mechanix Work Gloves - Earlier versions were mostly durable, but then the use of thin suedy material designed to fail in areas you simply cannot ignore? Like the bend of the thumbs. Solution? Replace $30 gloves prematurely or find something else (What do you guys like for work gloves, btw?)

Long running detergents and cleaners Scent changes while keeping the same name? Dumb.

Toyota Trucks Feel nothing like the 80s gen. Granted, nice to have some get up and go, but it's not a Toyota truck. And no diesel Hilux in the US? Why?

Subaru If not for the engine/all wheel drive performance, a complete disappointment. Nothing like the little 80s cars built to go hundreds of thousands of miles, with more comfortable ergos. Cheap leather that should be embarrassed to be called an upgrade (wouldn't normally opt for it, but only way to get a moonroof? dumb). Worst stock stereo I've ever heard for what is supposed to be a performance "10-speaker system". Creaks and squeaks. On some models, weirdly forward angled, non-adjustable seat headrests, terrible blind spots, squishy suspensions. Tinny. Lots of road noise. This is what you get for $30k+? Makes me long for the time and parts availability to rebuild the old '87 Mazda 626GT Turbo. That was my first nice car, bought 5yrs used; solid and comfortable, a real pleasure, though with some design flaws of its own.

Hanes t-shirts Getting thinner and thinner, I swear, with each set I buy. Pretty soon I'll be buying a bag of neckbands. The last time I remember quality in these shirts... how cool is this extra little detail?


Brand names mean nothing now, and haven't for quite some time.
I'm seeing quality product discontinued altogether now more and more often.
Ridiculous and frustrating.

mantis

msg wrote: »

Funny how this thread's morphed to expression of frustration of across the board.
I feel like an old man longing for quality of product past when I get annoyed about quality decline.

I was remarking to a friend the other day about the realization that pretty soon, customer satisfaction frustration won't matter at all, because the people who are even aware of a time that high quality product ever existed won't be around anymore. All that will be left is consumers who've grown to expect what we know to be premature product failure and poor service. To them it will simply be routine. What what will continue on is the sacrifice of quality or service for maximized profits. If you think about it, it's really the only way things can go when management is continually pushing for greater and greater profits, while sucking companies dry of the profits with obscene management salaries and bonuses. You can only get but so thin on quality before you have to start sacrificing the product or service or employees.

Converse All-Stars Still irks me. the ones that Nike brought back out of Asia are complete garbage. Like walking on slats of bendy mdf. The only true All-Stars are the ones that came out of the US plants in NC and TX. You suck, Nike.

Mechanix Work Gloves - Earlier versions were mostly durable, but then the use of thin suedy material designed to fail in areas you simply cannot ignore? Like the bend of the thumbs. Solution? Replace $30 gloves prematurely or find something else (What do you guys like for work gloves, btw?)

Long running detergents and cleaners Scent changes while keeping the same name? Dumb.

Toyota Trucks Feel nothing like the 80s gen. Granted, nice to have some get up and go, but it's not a Toyota truck. And no diesel Hilux in the US? Why?

Subaru If not for the engine/all wheel drive performance, a complete disappointment. Nothing like the little 80s cars built to go hundreds of thousands of miles, with more comfortable ergos. Cheap leather that should be embarrassed to be called an upgrade (wouldn't normally opt for it, but only way to get a moonroof? dumb). Worst stock stereo I've ever heard for what is supposed to be a performance "10-speaker system". Creaks and squeaks. On some models, weirdly forward angled, non-adjustable seat headrests, terrible blind spots, squishy suspensions. Tinny. Lots of road noise. This is what you get for $30k+? Makes me long for the time and parts availability to rebuild the old '87 Mazda 626GT Turbo. That was my first nice car, bought 5yrs used; solid and comfortable, a real pleasure, though with some design flaws of its own.

Hanes t-shirts Getting thinner and thinner, I swear, with each set I buy. Pretty soon I'll be buying a bag of neckbands. The last time I remember quality in these shirts... how cool is this extra little detail?


Brand names mean nothing now, and haven't for quite some time.
I'm seeing quality product discontinued altogether now more and more often.
Ridiculous and frustrating.

It keeps going and going. I'd like to move back to the 70's and 80's. Someone hit rewind please!!!

mhardy6647

Remember the inflation rates of the late 1970s -- and the two Energy Crises? I do

motorhead43026

^^don't forget the draft.

tonyb

Dang it Dan, I knew you were going to say it. LOL We even had better Pot back in the 70's.

Bob, can you trace back from the inside where the balanced connections are, see what you can see. I'm not up to speed on Cary's current balanced connections with the 05, you sure you have the cables in there snug ? Stupid question I know, but heaven knows we all do stupid things that we would like to forget we ever did.

Cinema by-pass switch off ?

BlueFox

I guess I am an optimist. While everything can be improved, I don't think life is so bad now. Of course the possibility does exist that starting in 2017 everything can start to go wrong, but, for now, I am still optimistic.

tonyb

BlueFox wrote: »

I guess I am an optimist. While everything can be improved, I don't think life is so bad now. Of course the possibility does exist that starting in 2017 everything can start to go wrong, but, for now, I am still optimistic.

Well, from my perspective, 400 counties thought as you do, that life is fairly good. Unfortunately over 2000 counties thought otherwise.

Maybe we can reverse that so that the 2000 counties will do well and the 400 not so much. Would that work for you ? Obviously not if you reside in one of those 400 counties.

tonyb

mhardy6647 wrote: »

Remember the inflation rates of the late 1970s -- and the two Energy Crises? I do

Good points....but I believe he was referencing quality issues, not the economy as a whole. Dang though, that gas crunch in the late 70's was a doozy.

tonyb

Bob,
I believe the 05 uses a set of tubes exclusively for the balanced circuit. Make sure those tubes are up to snuff.

WagnerRC

i xlrs lock into place and I swapped the right for left and that showed the left channel is not providing power. I also noticed when I plug the headphones in and flip the switch the speakers will not power off. That did not makes sense either plus one of the headphone speakers in dead too. Cinema is not in play here. Thanks for the advice

voltz

Computers are getting faster, but I'm still waiting on that Holo-deck experience

Some VR without the headset or cables!

lightman1

Bob's inebriated...judging by the last post.


Don't touch the secondary, Bob!

WagnerRC

Hey it may have been a ramble but I know to stay away from the high voltage. Cheers

I just find it piss poor quality out of the box. The Joule Electra was perfect as a used tube pre. all's good

lightman1

WagnerRC wrote: »

Hey it may have been a ramble but I know to stay away from the high voltage. Cheers

Good man...you're getting close to the top of the lightman world tour.......

motorhead43026

GM is one of the worst companies on the planet.

tonyb

Bob, switch the tubes from the channel that's working to the one that isn't. If it still isn't working then a trip back might be in order.

tonyb

A 3 year old truck with rust and a knife slit in the interior to fix a seatbelt issue ?? I might be inclined to drive that sucker right threw the dealers front window.

mhardy6647

For listening -- I tend towards (at least, some) hifi components of the 1940s through 1960s in terms of reliability and build quality (heh, sound quality, too).

Best of all, parts (new, vintage/used, and/or NOS) are generally readily available, too.

DSC_6480 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
great scott by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
DSC_9817 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

Unlike many 5 year old AV components.

lightman1

tonyb wrote: »

I might be inclined to drive that sucker right threw the dealers front window.

It's "through", Tony.
But.....!! If you threw that truck through the window of the dealership...I would show you nothing but the highest of respect for you and your amazing feats of strength.