Yes sir and have been since about 1988. A Carver MXR-150 receiver/amp and a set of Polk 2B's were my first major purchase after getting out of school and landing a "real" job. Worked for a radio station while getting my degrees and they would broadcast "Carver Sonic Holography Hour" on Friday nights at 10:00, sank the hook good! Next up was the C-4000 preamp & an M1.0t amp and never looked back. Still have everything but the MXR is in dire need of a recap.
NEXT STEPS
I'd like to wrap things up soon now that we've reached 20 and reaching 25 doesn't look terribly likely. I'd like to keep open for another day if that's alright with the group. Let's set a deadline of Thursday 12/22. If anyone has an overwhelming desire to keep open longer, please let us know.
If anyone is on the fence, now is the time. Unit cost drops another $14 if we reach 25.
Confirmation PM's are going out shortly using the 20-count pricing.
Yeah, I had some questions about the cases as I am just now compiling a list of parts I need to make a cable, and other parts for the case, etc. So hopefully a case thread will be started soon.
Hey Craig, do you remember the lead time once these are ordered?
Great response!
H9
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S-Tubes add soul!
Yeah, I had some questions about the cases as I am just now compiling a list of parts I need to make a cable, and other parts for the case, etc. So hopefully a case thread will be started soon.
Hey Craig, do you remember the lead time once these are ordered?
Whoa! Didn't realize that. So I guess no hurry for a case thread...lol.
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S-Tubes add soul!
I will have a case thread sometime the beginning of the year..
Awesome!
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S-Tubes add soul!
vcwatkins,
Please post a summary of what the expected costs and payment schedule is currently.
Thanks,
Harry
Marietta GA
COST
We are currently at:
Transformer unit cost: $243.19
USPS insured CONUS shipping: $17.55 (additional charge for int'l) Total each: $260.74
If we get to 25 committed, the total is reduced by $14.24
I'll need to get a quote directly from Melanie on any shipping outside the 48 states.
PAYMENT
Although Avel Lindberg collects 50% up front with 50% due at shipment, I'll need to collect 100% since I'll be on the hook once ordered. I'll pay the total when I place the order.
Payment is via Paypal gift prior to order being placed. Once confirmations are received, I will send out payment info. Paypal fees, if any, will be buyer’s responsibility. Paypal fees from debit/credit card look to be $7.86 on a $260.74 transaction. Once the funds are collected, I'll place the order and pay in full. It depends on how quickly money comes in of course, but I would hope I can place the order when they reopen on 1/2/17.
What's the cost of the cases?
(*I doubt @Toolfan66 is giving them away*)
You posted in the thread that Toolfan66 said he would make a cases thread after the New Year, so that's your answer (it hasn't been determined yet) and Craig isn't in charge of the cases.
I assume that the cases are a separate matter that the case maker will handle from start to finish. This is for the tranny buy only.
H9
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S-Tubes add soul!
Sorry, these threads always are filled with lots of fun phrases you can't help but take out of context.
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
What's the cost of the cases?
(*I doubt @Toolfan66 is giving them away*)
Last time around they were in the neighborhood of $100; Larry will set the price, this go-round, based on materials and time cost, etc. He's good people obviously and the value of his product will be well over the price he quotes.
I might as well jump in before it is to late.Count me in for 1 please.
2 Channel
Polk 1.2tl's Fully modded with dreadnought
Rogue Atlas Magnum
Rogue Magnum 66
North Star Intenso Dac
Auralic Aries Mini Streamer
Marantz UD 7007
Pangea PC
Wireworld Equinox 7 interconnects
Wireworld Equinox 7 Speaker Cables and Jumpers
Home theater
Marantz SR 5009-B&W Cdm1nt, Cdm Center Channel
Backups Polk Monitor 5 peerless,2.3tl,SRS2 pin/blade,Polk Crs+ pin/blade with stands.McCormack Dna 0.5 Deluxe,Dared Sl 2000A,Dayens Ampino
Let me know if it's on the fence to get the next discount. If it comes down to it, I might help you dudes hit the mark until more buyers come out of the woodworks.
Me, too. As I'm thinking about going in the neutrik<sp> direction
I suggest extending the "I'm in" period to Jan 2 . . . just my $00.2
Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
Rears Salk SuperCharged Surrounds
Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
LCD Samsung LN46B750
Mains Salk HT2-TL
Center Salk HT2C
Pre Cary SLP-05
Wires WW & MIT
We're at 21 with 3 fence-sitters. Let's see where we are late tomorrow night. I think we'd all love to see us get to 25 and it does seem to be within reach at this point.
Great chance to move closer to the best possible sound from SDA's and a fun easy project. Anyone considering needs to jump in now.
Again, many thanks to @250GTLusso for making this happen.
Let this be encouragement to get a few more people on board with this and get to the next drop in price people! WE ARE ALMOST THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME(*ever I think*)
I echo Craig's (*@vcwatkins*) remarks and also extend Kudos to Steve @250GTLusso for kicking this off with gusto.
Also Kudos to Craig for stepping up and taking over this in such an organized manner!
What's the cost of the cases?
(*I doubt @Toolfan66 is giving them away*)
You posted in the thread that Toolfan66 said he would make a cases thread after the New Year, so that's your answer (it hasn't been determined yet) and Craig isn't in charge of the cases.
I assume that the cases are a separate matter that the case maker will handle from start to finish. This is for the tranny buy only.
H9
I got the message over there thanks,so don't get your panties in a bunch
So we have gone from almost three hundred each for the transformers to now if we make the magic 25 for the group buy to just over two hundred each.
Looks good to me. How about those fence sitters????
Fence sitters need to decide, but keep in mind this an extremely busy time of year with people distracted/busy for Xmas. Since we are this close, I'd say to keep it open until 1-3-17 to ensure all who want to get one can.
Of course if we hit the goal before 1-3-17, then move forward with the purchase.
Just my unbunched panties .02c
H9
P.s. The math is off 21 committed; 10 received; 6 outstanding = 16, what about the other 5?
P.s.s. Nevermind I just realized a few bought multiple units....duh!
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S-Tubes add soul!
Fence sitters need to decide, but keep in mind this an extremely busy time of year with people distracted/busy for Xmas. Since we are this close, I'd say to keep it open until 1-3-17 to ensure all who want to get one can.
I agree regarding the 1/3/17 date. People have more money in the new year too.
Thanks guys. Let's keep this open through 1-3-2017.
We should be able to get to 25 *committed* and avoid leaving anyone out due to short-term timing concerns.
Anyone who is considering joining the group buy but has hesitated due to timing, please let me know if you'd like to participate. Fence-sitters, please let me know of any changes in your status.
Comments
Game Room: Carver M4.0t, Carver C-4000, Oppo BDP-105, SDA SRS 1.2tl
Bar/Card Room: Carver TFM-55, Carver C-1(BillD), Oppo BDP-93, SDA SRS 3.1
Son's Room: Carver TFM-55, Carver C-1(BillD), Laptop/AQ Dragonfly, SDA SRS 3.1
Bedroom: McIntosh MC150, Cambridge CXN, SDA 2Btl
Outdoor Pool Area: Yamaha R-N803 with four Polk Atrium 6
HT: Polk RTi A9s, CSi-A6, RT-65, RTi-A3's, Marantz SR5012, XPA3, UDP-203, Epson 5040UB
Game Room: Carver M4.0t, Carver C-4000, Oppo BDP-105, SDA SRS 1.2tl
Bar/Card Room: Carver TFM-55, Carver C-1(BillD), Oppo BDP-93, SDA SRS 3.1
Son's Room: Carver TFM-55, Carver C-1(BillD), Laptop/AQ Dragonfly, SDA SRS 3.1
Bedroom: McIntosh MC150, Cambridge CXN, SDA 2Btl
Outdoor Pool Area: Yamaha R-N803 with four Polk Atrium 6
HT: Polk RTi A9s, CSi-A6, RT-65, RTi-A3's, Marantz SR5012, XPA3, UDP-203, Epson 5040UB
CURRENT LIST
1.) 250GTLusso
2.) 250GTLusso
3.) DrumSolo
4.) vcwatkins
5.) Nesmith98
6.) nooshinjohn
7.) honestaquarian
8.) RandyCroissant
9.) monepolk
10.) amb426amb1
11.) Polk65
12.) Polk65
13.) Polk65
14.) Polk65
15.) heiney9
16.) gmcman
17.) ER308L
18.) dd2753
19.) dd2753
20.) RobbyKY
NEXT STEPS
I'd like to wrap things up soon now that we've reached 20 and reaching 25 doesn't look terribly likely. I'd like to keep open for another day if that's alright with the group. Let's set a deadline of Thursday 12/22. If anyone has an overwhelming desire to keep open longer, please let us know.
If anyone is on the fence, now is the time. Unit cost drops another $14 if we reach 25.
Confirmation PM's are going out shortly using the 20-count pricing.
Is there a separate thread for cases?
Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSA Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
Gameroom: Roon * LG v30 phone * Marantz 2270 * Polk Signature S15
Studio: Roon * SBTouch * Dared MP-5 * DefTech SM45
Beach: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * Schiit Yggdrasil * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 / First Watt F5 Clone * PSA Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
Beach Den: Sonore microRendu * Dayens Menuetto * Fostex BK-12m Folded Horn / KEF LS50 / Dynaudio Audience 50 / Revel M22
Hey Craig, do you remember the lead time once these are ordered?
Great response!
H9
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
Lead time is currently 12 weeks.
Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSA Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
Gameroom: Roon * LG v30 phone * Marantz 2270 * Polk Signature S15
Studio: Roon * SBTouch * Dared MP-5 * DefTech SM45
Beach: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * Schiit Yggdrasil * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 / First Watt F5 Clone * PSA Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
Beach Den: Sonore microRendu * Dayens Menuetto * Fostex BK-12m Folded Horn / KEF LS50 / Dynaudio Audience 50 / Revel M22
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
Awesome!
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
Please post a summary of what the expected costs and payment schedule are currently.
Thanks,
Harry
Marietta GA
COST
We are currently at:
Transformer unit cost: $243.19
USPS insured CONUS shipping: $17.55 (additional charge for int'l)
Total each: $260.74
If we get to 25 committed, the total is reduced by $14.24
I'll need to get a quote directly from Melanie on any shipping outside the 48 states.
PAYMENT
Although Avel Lindberg collects 50% up front with 50% due at shipment, I'll need to collect 100% since I'll be on the hook once ordered. I'll pay the total when I place the order.
Payment is via Paypal gift prior to order being placed. Once confirmations are received, I will send out payment info. Paypal fees, if any, will be buyer’s responsibility. Paypal fees from debit/credit card look to be $7.86 on a $260.74 transaction. Once the funds are collected, I'll place the order and pay in full. It depends on how quickly money comes in of course, but I would hope I can place the order when they reopen on 1/2/17.
Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSA Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
Gameroom: Roon * LG v30 phone * Marantz 2270 * Polk Signature S15
Studio: Roon * SBTouch * Dared MP-5 * DefTech SM45
Beach: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * Schiit Yggdrasil * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 / First Watt F5 Clone * PSA Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
Beach Den: Sonore microRendu * Dayens Menuetto * Fostex BK-12m Folded Horn / KEF LS50 / Dynaudio Audience 50 / Revel M22
(*I doubt @Toolfan66 is giving them away*)
You posted in the thread that Toolfan66 said he would make a cases thread after the New Year, so that's your answer (it hasn't been determined yet) and Craig isn't in charge of the cases.
I assume that the cases are a separate matter that the case maker will handle from start to finish. This is for the tranny buy only.
H9
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
*giggles*
Sorry, these threads always are filled with lots of fun phrases you can't help but take out of context.
Last time around they were in the neighborhood of $100; Larry will set the price, this go-round, based on materials and time cost, etc. He's good people obviously and the value of his product will be well over the price he quotes.
SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Marantz DV-9500 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8
Micro Seiki DQ-50 * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
Polk 1.2tl's Fully modded with dreadnought
Rogue Atlas Magnum
Rogue Magnum 66
North Star Intenso Dac
Auralic Aries Mini Streamer
Marantz UD 7007
Pangea PC
Wireworld Equinox 7 interconnects
Wireworld Equinox 7 Speaker Cables and Jumpers
Home theater
Marantz SR 5009-B&W Cdm1nt, Cdm Center Channel
Backups Polk Monitor 5 peerless,2.3tl,SRS2 pin/blade,Polk Crs+ pin/blade with stands.McCormack Dna 0.5 Deluxe,Dared Sl 2000A,Dayens Ampino
Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSA Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
Gameroom: Roon * LG v30 phone * Marantz 2270 * Polk Signature S15
Studio: Roon * SBTouch * Dared MP-5 * DefTech SM45
Beach: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * Schiit Yggdrasil * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 / First Watt F5 Clone * PSA Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
Beach Den: Sonore microRendu * Dayens Menuetto * Fostex BK-12m Folded Horn / KEF LS50 / Dynaudio Audience 50 / Revel M22
Me, too. As I'm thinking about going in the neutrik<sp> direction
I suggest extending the "I'm in" period to Jan 2 . . . just my $00.2
PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
Rears Salk SuperCharged Surrounds
Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
LCD Samsung LN46B750
Mains Salk HT2-TL
Center Salk HT2C
Pre Cary SLP-05
Wires WW & MIT
Looks like we might be getting another ptoce drop. Hold it open for a bit longer.
Great chance to move closer to the best possible sound from SDA's and a fun easy project. Anyone considering needs to jump in now.
Again, many thanks to @250GTLusso for making this happen.
Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSA Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
Gameroom: Roon * LG v30 phone * Marantz 2270 * Polk Signature S15
Studio: Roon * SBTouch * Dared MP-5 * DefTech SM45
Beach: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * Schiit Yggdrasil * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 / First Watt F5 Clone * PSA Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
Beach Den: Sonore microRendu * Dayens Menuetto * Fostex BK-12m Folded Horn / KEF LS50 / Dynaudio Audience 50 / Revel M22
Also Kudos to Craig for stepping up and taking over this in such an organized manner!
Here,here gentlemen!
I got the message over there thanks,so don't get your panties in a bunch
(21) Committed
- (10) confirmation/address PM's received
- (6) confirmation/address PM's outstanding
(4) Fence-dwellersIf fence dwellers are closer to committing now that 25 is within reach, please let me know.
Anyone else considering needs to jump in now. Great chance to get closer to the best possible sound from SDA's. You want proof? Here's your proof.
Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSA Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
Gameroom: Roon * LG v30 phone * Marantz 2270 * Polk Signature S15
Studio: Roon * SBTouch * Dared MP-5 * DefTech SM45
Beach: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * Schiit Yggdrasil * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 / First Watt F5 Clone * PSA Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
Beach Den: Sonore microRendu * Dayens Menuetto * Fostex BK-12m Folded Horn / KEF LS50 / Dynaudio Audience 50 / Revel M22
Looks good to me.
How about those fence sitters????
Of course if we hit the goal before 1-3-17, then move forward with the purchase.
Just my unbunched panties .02c
H9
P.s. The math is off 21 committed; 10 received; 6 outstanding = 16, what about the other 5?
P.s.s. Nevermind I just realized a few bought multiple units....duh!
Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
I agree regarding the 1/3/17 date. People have more money in the new year too.
We should be able to get to 25 *committed* and avoid leaving anyone out due to short-term timing concerns.
Anyone who is considering joining the group buy but has hesitated due to timing, please let me know if you'd like to participate. Fence-sitters, please let me know of any changes in your status.
Dread On!
Craig
Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * PSA Dectet * DH Labs Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
Gameroom: Roon * LG v30 phone * Marantz 2270 * Polk Signature S15
Studio: Roon * SBTouch * Dared MP-5 * DefTech SM45
Beach: Rega RP6 * AT33PTGII * Budgie SUT * Jolida jd9 * Roon * Sonore UltraRendu (LPS-1, WW Plat7, Iso Regen, Lush) * Schiit Yggdrasil * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 / First Watt F5 Clone * PSA Dectet * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl
Beach Den: Sonore microRendu * Dayens Menuetto * Fostex BK-12m Folded Horn / KEF LS50 / Dynaudio Audience 50 / Revel M22
Harry Jones
Marietta GA