My Rockport Aviors have arrived
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Just don't get him wet....he'll multiply. lolHT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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Damn gremlins
2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Voltz backs out of the fray. Back to you Joey!
Tell us a little about yourself!!!
The world couldn't handle more than one of me.
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Your worried about having to swap out cables ?? Dude, the amps and speakers you've swapped out is way, way more coinage.....and you don't lose a wink of sleep over that. Just sayin'....kinda scratchin' my head over here.....which is better than what I usually scratch.
That other thing you scratch... Hahaha
I think what I'm more concerned about is that I'm not familiar with swapping cables and what the monetary losses would be.
With these amps and speakers, i don't really lose much if I flip because I know the market so well.
Plus I was hoping my local dealer could help me with some cables once I bought the D3 from
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Poots and giggles, Joey. Keep a reference set of IC and speaker leads. Something that you know the sound of. Kinda. Subjective. Flog the amps and speakers. Preamps and sources.
Don't worry about making a dollar if you don't like them.
At the level of gear you're running, you're not getting the full potential.
It will take TIME to appreciate the sound of a piece of gear, any gear. But you have to give that gear a good circuit.
Don't run a Ferrari on cheap gas and then bit¢h about it not going fast. -
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Poots and giggles, Joey. Keep a reference set of IC and speaker leads. Something that you know the sound of. Kinda. Subjective. Flog the amps and speakers. Preamps and sources.
Don't worry about making a dollar if you don't like them.
At the level of gear you're running, you're not getting the full potential.
It will take TIME to appreciate the sound of a piece of gear, any gear. But you have to give that gear a good circuit.
Don't run a Ferrari on cheap gas and then bit¢h about it not going fast.
I like your last line. And yeah... It's scary that I'm not getting full potential because it's already so dang good.
But yes, you guys are right. In time.
Still loving the journey.
And yes... This is one sexy speaker.
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Your worried about having to swap out cables ?? Dude, the amps and speakers you've swapped out is way, way more coinage.....and you don't lose a wink of sleep over that. Just sayin'....kinda scratchin' my head over here.....which is better than what I usually scratch.
That other thing you scratch... Hahaha
I think what I'm more concerned about is that I'm not familiar with swapping cables and what the monetary losses would be.
Understandable.....which is why you buy used, so if you have to flip you lose little to nothing. I'm surprised Skip hasn't shown up at your door with a full compliment of WW 7's for you to give a whirl to.
Just like you buy speakers and gear, your not paying retail for all this or you'd lose your shirt. You have to start thinking of cables as gear, a part of the system, and sometimes you do have to swap them out.
It's like putting together a puzzle of sound signatures to create the sound that you like. Everything has a sound signature, a house sound, with little variances between lines within a brand. Don't cheap out on the cables either, the AQ ones your looking at in the FM are way below what you need, no offense to the seller either.
Some that should be on your short list, nothing less than MIT shotgun S1's, Harmonic Tech Pro 9's, Acoustic Zen Holograms or better, WW 7's from Skip.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Hurry Joey, Tony is losing sleep!
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rednedtugent wrote: »Hurry Joey, Tony is losing sleep!
Naah......just want to see the man give his gear a good evaluation. If I was to pick on the guy, I'd mention those absorption panels too. lolHT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Your not going to loose a dime on cables and but to deprive such a rig of such is something I cannot fathom. If getting money is a motivation for you then your going to make more back on selling the cables than you do a piece of gear, provided you ship them to the correct address.
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When things are more set, I will ask skip to bring some and I will keep an open mind and let's see what is what. Then we can open up for wire after that.
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Oh I brought over an arsenal tony, but it wasn't about the cables that day. It was a good day of setup and throwing all sorts of gear at the strads.
You didn't plug any in Skip ? I gotta imagine the WW7's would leave quite the impression over the zip cord he's using now. I know if you showed up at my door with an arsenal, it's all getting an ear to it. That's just me though.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I was using audioquest in my 2 channel system, had it sounding really good, but was missing something, just wasn't sounding like they were in the store. Loaned some blue heaven speaker, power and interconnects from my dealer and the soundstage exploded in width and depth, there was this crispness to the sound, I was sold! The immediate difference that was made was an eye opener! And these aren't expensive cables either.
2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
The thing is that this is all subjective (this hobby). I might hear a difference with different cables and someone else may not (same for speakers, a pre, tubes, etc). This is turning into another "cables make a difference thread." I like the look of Joey's rig and if he's content to run zip cord, that's fine with me; as far as I'm concerned, it's his rig and he can do what he wants with it.
If he starts asking for thoughts on cables and interconnects, that's the time to chime in.
Back in '07 I was encouraging Joey to get some different cables. Obviously, 9 years later, this isn't something he's concerned about.
If, and when, he gets to the point where he wants to try something out, I think he's in good hands with Skip and the rest of the fine folks on the polk forum.
Of course, this is all just my humble, highly subjective, opinion.
Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
You are right. No reason to de-rail this thread with a cable debate. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's finding the great cable debate a little tiring. Sorry Joey, hope you get those monsters dialed in.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
I will be happy to chime in. We listened to some music. I preferred the marantz player over the other player. I felt it gave so much more life to the sound. We all have our preferences in sound, but truth be told, the sound was dead and sterile. The marantz gave the setup much needed life. Overall, it lacked the depth and weight as Joey mentioned.
On a positive note, the 802s are gone so he should lighten up on the complete wall coverage of sound panels. It's a journey for sure.
By the way, am I the only one to notice how the Rockports look like... Um..... Ushers? But again, Usher also takes a cue from Sonus Faber.
I am still in for the Joey get together, there was supposed to be one for the previous, previous setup. But he wasn't able to get the sound right.
We can't fault him for that, just look at the rooms setup. Hugs and kisses man. Hugs and kisses.
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Here is Bruce Lee. Somehow I think he had audio setups in mind, teaching a guppy.
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I think that acoustic treatments are a great idea as long as you're consulting with the professionals about the dimensions of the room and the placement of your speakers. YMMVAudio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
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Keep in mind, when skip and halen came to help me physically move the Strads, we were in complete disarray. The sound was not to my liking before or after. No amount of cables or component changes would alter it. Immediately after I went back to my trusty 802d2 and over time I got them locked in.
Skip and halen never got to hear that.
The comparison between the final set up on the 802d2 and the Strads were of no comparison. One was insufficient to my ears, the other was solid.
I just spent the day redoing the room acoustics and have started to hang the panels (1 done haha) and have positioned th Rockports. Was using the Classe all day.
Pretty good sound.
Re cables, that's the cherry on top. Not in a rush. I'm more concerned about finishing the room and getting the right components in the room.
Plus I got skip nearby. Easy to try out.
I'll get his ears on the set up once I'm more done.
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OraclePolitical Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
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Lol
I'll say it again. Joey.....have you met Joey?
One panel? Don't you have like 8 of those things?Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!! -
Yes they are, but that level of gear deserves it.....or justifies the cost. I think PFB is running them, and I don't think anyone is going to pry them from his dead fingers down the road.
Many cheaper options exist too, but like we say.....buy used. Saves coin and are already broken in.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
By the way, am I the only one to notice how the Rockports look like... Um..... Ushers? But again, Usher also takes a cue from Sonus Faber.
halen
Nope, you're not the only one
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Lol
I'll say it again. Joey.....have you met Joey?
One panel? Don't you have like 8 of those things?
Yeah I'm a little slow putting it up... Sometimes work or playing with Emma or hanging out with the wife beats audio all day everyday.
Hahahha
But progress is progress!
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Yes they are, but that level of gear deserves it.....or justifies the cost. I think PFB is running them, and I don't think anyone is going to pry them from his dead fingers down the road.
Many cheaper options exist too, but like we say.....buy used. Saves coin and are already broken in.
Gotcha. But wire that costly, better do my dishes too
29k for speaker wire... What's in it? Platinum?
I can't even wrap my head around that
I don't think my gear justifies that wire. Maybe gear that's a few levels above mine does.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
No doubt, they are. In retrospect, I should have suggested the Magnum or Shotgun series.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Even PFB would never run studded mud tires on the Porsche, just cause that is what most guys in ND run on their rides....
With exotic cables, it is a matter of means, and with your means...it should matter. Considering cabling might have slowed the gear churn.HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable
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Dennis Gardner wrote: »Even PFB would never run studded mud tires on the Porsche, just cause that is what most guys in ND run on their rides....
With exotic cables, it is a matter of means, and with your means...it should matter. Considering cabling might have slowed the gear churn.
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