Which would yield the better performance gain-high end interconnects or spk.wire?

ken brydson

F1nut

Gosh, I'm so sorry that you feel I was only callously rude in my assessment. So, will Kelly_zbag_Montini be joining you in your safe space? Hey I know, you two can 3rd, 4th and 5th yourselves until Mr. Rogers comes on and after your nap time you can play pattycake.

ken brydson

rmpolk wrote: »

Ken Brydson got a question for ya- Just out of curiosity why is that when I click your profile I see F1's picture as listed as a profile picture change Normally I wouldn't ask but I thought it may bear relevance to your picture post featuring Monty Python .good movie like the cow toss,although they should've used a bull as its a good way to fling the s__t

None of your business....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNY

lightman1

ken brydson

rmpolk wrote: »

Good Intellectual comeback truthfully I expected more from a man of your stature I guess its limited to the audio genre only. PS- I didn't start the fire its been burning since this post was churning

F1nut

The pattycake queen has spoken.

lightman1

rmpolk wrote: »

Ken Brydson got a question for ya- Just out of curiosity why is that when I click your profile I see F1's picture as listed as a profile picture change Normally I wouldn't ask but I thought it may bear relevance to your picture post featuring Monty Python .good movie like the cow toss,although they should've used a bull as its a good way to fling the s__t

No relevance at all....just a co inky dink.

lightman1

rmpolk wrote: »

I bear all due respect and bow before the almighty Polk king

Me? Noooooooo! I'm just a court jester!

ken brydson

lightman1

Clones.... We're just clones..

gudnoyez

gudnoyez

https://youtu.be/rYnXPZ_DLbQ

Sprags

The most important thing is to make sure you have the interconnects and speakers cables connected with the arrows going in the right direction on all your components and speakers. That is regardless off how much your cables and components cost. I've heard systems at the extreme high end turn to crap simply because they plugged one cable in opposite the other and the electronics flowing through the cable were going in the wrong direction.

Sprags

afterburnt wrote: »

I don't really give a carp what he thinks about cables. I will debate him all day on the merits of one hot dog over another.

That is the perfect response in a forum thread. People won't know if that is intentional or a typo.

How about a trout or a flounder?

ken brydson

F1nut

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

tonyb

rmpolk wrote: »

Here's something on the net concerning cable that some members might find of interest;-[Quantifying the performance ]- A key element missing when discussing the performance of audio cable was the ability to quantify the performance through test results,Then through our Rand D we came to develop the efficiency scale.A test and measurement program that correlates the sonic qualities of the cable with bench test performance,Using proprietary software designed by us and assisted by HP we are now able to measure the networks complex impedance,and phase and calculate its in phase power and losses.These factors show the efficiency a given audio network or cable will pass the signal from input to output. We were now able to combine these results into a single graph to characterize and correlate a networks sonic performance to what the Ear Hears!

UM, they've been measuring that for some time, it's nothing new and many cable builders take that all into consideration and much further still.

I don't see what test can compare anything to human hearing as like we say, the human hearing part is a moving target. I know of no test, measuring instrument that can graph soundstage width/height/depth, place instruments on a stage, measure the tone of the notes or air around them.

This really is a subject that one has to experience for themselves. Once you start with "Here's something on the net", your already behind the 8 ball. Go get your ears on a variety, you don't even have to buy anything. Hi-fi shops, Polk members who host little get togethers. Ask on the forum who's close to you, put aside a couple hours to chew the fat and listen. Get signed up when we do demo rounds of cables or other gear. Only cost ya shipping as a way to get your ears on stuff.

tonyb

rmpolk wrote: »

Good Morning Sunshine

Sunshine ? My outstanding personality doesn't wake up until the 2nd pot of coffee.

lightman1

Tonyb is the resident curmudgeon and get off my lawn guy.

tonyb

lightman1 wrote: »

Tonyb is the resident curmudgeon and get off my lawn guy.

lightman1 wrote: »

Tonyb is the resident curmudgeon and get off my lawn guy.

Don't let my relaxed disposition fool you Russ, I've already killed you like 3 times in my head. lol

voltz

gudnoyez wrote: »

https://youtu.be/rYnXPZ_DLbQ

thanks I enjoyed that, its been awhile!

motorstereo

My 2cents which is probably overpriced by a cent a half. I'm in the cables sure do make a difference camp because I've "seen" them work. This is in addition to hearing them make a difference. Case in point I was using what I thought were decent interconnects but there was a problem somewhere with the sound that I could not pinpoint. I swapped out interconnects and the problem quickly became apparent. There was one driver that was wired out of phase on one of my 2.3s. The not so good cables weren't up to task of making this bo-bo noticeable for a couple months. But within the first 5 minutes of the new ones being installed I could see that one driver not operating in unison with the rest of the array. That was all the proof I needed to see.
Now what about those hot dogs? I'm also partial to Nathans

StevieB

For 2 channel listening, whomever on this site came up with 'everything matters' has hit the nail on the head. If and that is a big if, you are wanting to search for synergy in your system to your ears, everything matters, from components to interconnects to speaker wires. Pretty simple.

tonyb

rmpolk wrote: »

Tony b- Since you took the time to respond to my posting on the other relevant thread I'll respond in kind and re-post my reply to your post here to: I'm curious to see how many other members agree with all your viewpoints on this subject. I'll admit I don't know Much on this subject and I may prove naive but I posted it because I believe what I read!!--[read]past tense implied [red] Hope to hear some feedback but please be aware I was referring to the issue of cable only in relation to my reference to what i copied from the net in my previous post

No, you believe what you want to believe and read what supports the conclusions you've already subscribed to. If you simply believe everything you read, go read cable manufacturers marketing and reviews. How do you decipher the different opinions you'll read ?....if you truly believe everything you read.

Stevieb,

Great post. A little here and a little there all adds up to something bigger. Hence the everything matters we keep throwing around.

motorhead43026

@steveB, how well does the A23 drive those 3.1tl's?

tonyb

rmpolk wrote: »

Tony maybe you could help me to interpret what was implied in the phrase "Audio Networks" in the net page I sited.

I assume they mean audio systems, with network being the various ways you connect a system such as USB, Digital, analog, etc.

It also states at the beginning, "- A key element missing when discussing the performance of audio cable was the ability to quantify the performance through test results"

There is no way to quantify anything that is subjective.....and that discussion is not missing from cable debates. I can no longer suggest to you that Spam is the next best thing since sliced bread. You may like Spam, your family may like spam. You can all get together in a room and taste test against something else and come away with Spam is great. I hate spam....so what. The only test that matters is the one YOU do, in YOUR home, on Your gear with YOUR ears.

Your reading too deep into these internet articles. You can find anything on the internet for or against anything. It's your ears that have to be pleased, not someone elses.

cnh

And now for something completely different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_eYSuPKP3Y

[Deleted User]

here is a chance for the all cables are the same crowd to prove it.
http://www.ap.com/
get back to me w/ your results. Hopefully, you will use the scientific
method in your testing.

StevieB

motorhead43026 wrote: »

@steveB, how well does the A23 drive those 3.1tl's?

Huge chit eatin grin! Those 3.1's were the best 7 hours I have spent for audio enjoyment.

tonyb

rmpolk wrote: »

In some cases its the nuances in the presentation of the sound that is of a subjective factor to the listener. And in some other cases its in the way that varying components contribute to the presentation of the sound that is of a subjective quality to the listener

....and in some cases, both. The degree of those nuances though vary, and many things contribute.