Building a pair of Polk Monitor 10's

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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 7,545
    Max treble on the receiver, max treble on the EQ, holy cr ap you like a lot of high end.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,050
    And with the Loudness maxed out. UGH!
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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    Somehow I knew I was in for it posting a picture of my system...
    Will I am
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,354
    willwilly wrote: »
    Somehow I knew I was in for it posting a picture of my system...

    It's all good brother. We are all at different levels. Keep rocking out and knocking out. Those m10's are looking absolutely superb.

    There is some relevance to the comments, but it's only because we want everyone to achieve maximum enjoyment. If you are there, don't fret.
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  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 10,219
    Those 10's are no longer garage worthy

    And they deserve a new gear family
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 7,545
    willwilly wrote: »
    Somehow I knew I was in for it posting a picture of my system...

    Might I suggest a pair of Klipsch on Emotiva gear? ;)

    All things aside, I agree with Skip.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
  • notifiednotified Posts: 175
    edited April 2016
    DSkip wrote: »
    willwilly wrote: »
    Somehow I knew I was in for it posting a picture of my system...

    I

    There is some relevance to the comments, but it's only because we want everyone to achieve maximum enjoyment. If you are there, don't fret.

    Just some are more apt to Criticize than Advise! But that aside. Exemplary workmanship! I've enjoyed following your thread,looking forward to seeing the finished pair! Btw if your interested in starting another project,yesterday in the for sale section GEPPY1 listed a selection of parts for sda2b's that are definitely worthy of your level of craftsmanship,,,[upgraded crossovers and tweets- worth consideration]
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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    I'll take a look. Thanks!
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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    I don't know if this is proper but it is a great deal easier than painting MDF.
    One complement I have for this forum is the high res pictures. You can zoom up on these and see the most minute detail. I see things in the pictures I don't see, even with my glasses on.
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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    edited April 2016
    Weak, old plastic with new seal bends and one hole cracked. Larry's ring for the crossover?
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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    edited April 2016
    The next discussion will be Monitor 7's. I have most of the parts. These will most likely get new drivers and RDO 198's. I have original crossovers that will get new caps, and a original pair of PR's.

    Look at me throwing around speaker talk like I know what I'm doing...

    Off to the fabric store for polyfill. I feel so uncomfortable in that store...
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,354
    Oh I love the fabric store! All those great fabrics to use for diy room treatments! ;) o:)
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    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 6,260
    willwilly wrote: »
    The next discussion will be Monitor 7's. I have most of the parts. These will most likely get new drivers and RDO 198's. I have original crossovers that will get new caps, and a original pair of PR's.

    Look at me throwing around speaker talk like I know what I'm doing...

    Off to the fabric store for polyfill. I feel so uncomfortable in that store...
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    If they have bonded Dacron, it will work better than Polyfil. It's what Polk used originally.

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    Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
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    ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
    Den:
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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    No Bonded Dacron, 2" Polyfill...
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    A roll sitting behind the tweeter, and just a few staples to hold it in place...

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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,063
    Stock M10'S do not have Dacron in the PR compartment. Also it is rolled up behind the mids.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk Signature S60's with ZU Audio IBIS jumpers; Cables: ZU Mission IC's, LAT International SC, ZU Mission power cords, all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    All TV's sound enhanced by Polk Magnfi Mini's.

    Other; SDA2BTL's, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All speakers have had crossover rebuilds, resulting in a small fortune invested in Sonicaps, and tweeter upgrades.

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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    Stock M10'S do not have Dacron in the PR compartment. Also it is rolled up behind the mids.
    Really, I have plenty of fill.
    Will I am
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,050
    willwilly wrote: »
    Weak, old plastic with new seal bends and one hole cracked. Larry's ring for the crossover?
    t3mky00j2p6w.jpg

    What are you using for the seal?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,050
    edited April 2016
    willwilly wrote: »
    Stock M10'S do not have Dacron in the PR compartment. Also it is rolled up behind the mids.
    Really, I have plenty of fill.

    Will, motorhead is right. You want one roll behind each mid that does not enter into the PR area. Best to rip out what you've got in there and start again. Parts Express carries what you need.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 6,260
    I explained earlier where the Dacron goes. Since you didn't put in a center brace between the woofer openings, you can do two rolls, side by side. The rolls should be long enough to go from the bottom of the woofer openings to the very top behind the tweeter. Tack the rolls on either side to keep them in place. The bottom of the cabinet should be empty other than the crossover. An additional damping option, is Black Hole 5 or Sonic Barrier under the Dacron, behind the woofers.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
    Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
    Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
    ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
    Den:
    Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
    Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
    Exclusive Distributor of Gimpod's Custom SDA Circuit Boards

    "And keep her under 70, would you, huh? Betty likes a slow ride"
  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    edited April 2016
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    How bout this, a roll behind the tweeter horizontally, and two rolls vertically each behind the drivers. Nothing around the pr.
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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    Black Hole 5 Discontinued but I have seen that modification somewhere
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 7,545
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    F1nut wrote: »
    willwilly wrote: »
    Weak, old plastic with new seal bends and one hole cracked. Larry's ring for the crossover?
    t3mky00j2p6w.jpg

    What are you using for the seal?

    1/8" tape from parts express
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  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    Finishing the JB weld job with clear weld on the bottom edge. Top edge was already done with the gray JB Weld.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,050
    willwilly wrote: »
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    How bout this, a roll behind the tweeter horizontally, and two rolls vertically each behind the drivers. Nothing around the pr.

    Will, read westmassguy's description of where and how the material goes.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    Man, those are gorgeous. It would almost be a sin to put a grill on them.
    BTW, the originals had a front to back brace between the two woofers, starting at the bottom of the woofer opening, running vertically to just below the tweeter opening.
    A roll of Dacron was stuffed horizontally behind the tweeter. A second roll, cut like a pair of pants, was inserted behind the woofer openings, with a flap at the bottom.
    That's what I did...
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,050
    Ah, ok. This is what I saw, "Since you didn't put in a center brace between the woofer openings, you can do two rolls, side by side. The rolls should be long enough to go from the bottom of the woofer openings to the very top behind the tweeter."

    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,050
    Just thinking out loud here. It's been a long time since I've seen the inside of a Monitor 10, but I do recall what the inside of a Monitor 11 looks like and based on what westmassguy said about the center brace they seem to be the same layout. So, I believe Polk used the vertical center brace to help keep the backwaves of the two mids as separate as possible.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • willwillywillwilly Posts: 185
    Well then I have my crossover in the wrong place which is possible since I didn't ask...
    My cross over is between the tweeter and drivers. Putting in a baffle isn't an option. I could add a baffle glued to the front but only extend 3" towards the back.
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  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 6,260
    willwilly wrote: »
    Well then I have my crossover in the wrong place which is possible since I didn't ask...
    My cross over is between the tweeter and drivers. Putting in a baffle isn't an option. I could add a baffle glued to the front but only extend 3" towards the back.
    I'd be more worried about the proximity of the inductors on the crossover to the magnetic fields coming from the drivers.

    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
    Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
    Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
    ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
    Den:
    Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
    Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
    Exclusive Distributor of Gimpod's Custom SDA Circuit Boards

    "And keep her under 70, would you, huh? Betty likes a slow ride"
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