Building a pair of Polk Monitor 10's

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  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,808
    All I can say is let me know if you decide to build an experimental pair of cabinets for SDA 2Bs. I will happily test them out for you... B)

    Like it is with most trades, it sure pays to have the right tools. Beautiful work there.
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    willwilly wrote: »
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    Oh my......the contrast looks great!
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • deucekazoo
    deucekazoo Posts: 146
    F1nut wrote: »
    deucekazoo wrote: »
    willwilly wrote: »
    I like to keep it simple and see the wood without stains and color.

    Me too, I don't like using stain and it drives me nut when people stain hard wood.
    Let the natural color come out.

    Sorry, but nothing makes the grain of wood pop like a dye and a film coat. New walnut is cold, it needs to be warmed up.

    The type of finish has everything to do with how the wood looks and I am not talking about stain. I once ruined (well not ruined but not the look I was going for) a pre-amp box I made. I used Bloodwood and maple for the box. At that time I did not know finishes too well and used a poly to finish it. The blood wood turned brown. If you know Bloodwood it has a nice deep red to it.
    From this

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    To this

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    Same wood, different finishes.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,241
    While true that the type of finish and the sheen have an effect on the final appearance, it's not everything. Poly should not have caused that to happen. What brand, wiping or brush, how old was it?
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    F1nut wrote: »
    deucekazoo wrote: »
    willwilly wrote: »
    I like to keep it simple and see the wood without stains and color.

    Me too, I don't like using stain and it drives me nut when people stain hard wood.
    Let the natural color come out.

    Sorry, but nothing makes the grain of wood pop like a dye and a film coat. New walnut is cold, it needs to be warmed up.

    To each their own... walnut can be a bit cold but to that point almost any wood grain can be a bit harsh... With the right dye and film coat you can make poplar pop...


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  • deucekazoo
    deucekazoo Posts: 146
    F1nut wrote: »
    While true that the type of finish and the sheen have an effect on the final appearance, it's not everything. Poly should not have caused that to happen. What brand, wiping or brush, how old was it?

    Not sure about the brand name but it was a quality brand, not a no brand name from Walmart. It was a brush on and I think it was water based.
    I know what you are saying, I was not expecting that color either. I just know certain finishes go deep into the wood to bring out the beauty. I never had Walnut look cold.

    Now back to speaker building. Let see some more pictures.
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  • F1nut
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    I think it was water based.

    There's the problem. Water borne finishes have gotten better, but still aren't there. Not unlike fluorescent compared to incandescent lighting. I do not use water borne finishes, won't even consider them.
    I never had Walnut look cold.

    The walnut in willwilly's pics is cold.






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  • F1nut
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    Will, I would be remiss if I didn't say your craftsmanship is top notch.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    One down...
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,586
    edited March 2016
    F1nut wrote: »
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    The walnut in willwilly's pics is cold.






    Somehow that is offensive...
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    Well a bit of bad news, using one of my MW6503'S in the shop to test fit holes several times, being passed around with visitors... even having the JB weld treatment on the top plate, the driver locked up.

    I see the logic in the JB weld technique, but make sure you do it on the top and bottom side of the magnet... Mine were done on just the top edge of the magnet.

    So if anyone has a good 6503 laying around, I'm interested.

    I have yet to abandoned a resemblance of a budget, or I would buy four new drivers.

    Thanks in advance.
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    So while I'm waiting for the last coat to dry, this is a sample I put together of 1" MDF. I have been researching vinyl wraps to see what is available. These wraps can be pricey, and make any wood worker gag, but...for a speaker, handled properly, vinyl may be an acceptable option. Did I say that out loud.
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    This reminds me of bloodwood.
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    edited April 2016
    This is my Garage system. I using two 5jrs' and 4's. I'll be using a Denon AVR5700 to drive my 10's.
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  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 9,344
    willwilly wrote: »
    This reminds me of bloodwood.

    I link to the vinyl product would be nice.
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    edited April 2016
    Ebay is where I bought mine

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,020
    Max treble on the receiver, max treble on the EQ, holy cr ap you like a lot of high end.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,241
    And with the Loudness maxed out. UGH!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    Somehow I knew I was in for it posting a picture of my system...
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,030
    Those 10's are no longer garage worthy

    And they deserve a new gear family
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • Nightfall
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    willwilly wrote: »
    Somehow I knew I was in for it posting a picture of my system...

    Might I suggest a pair of Klipsch on Emotiva gear? ;)

    All things aside, I agree with Skip.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • notified
    notified Posts: 175
    edited April 2016
    DSkip wrote: »
    willwilly wrote: »
    Somehow I knew I was in for it posting a picture of my system...

    I

    There is some relevance to the comments, but it's only because we want everyone to achieve maximum enjoyment. If you are there, don't fret.

    Just some are more apt to Criticize than Advise! But that aside. Exemplary workmanship! I've enjoyed following your thread,looking forward to seeing the finished pair! Btw if your interested in starting another project,yesterday in the for sale section GEPPY1 listed a selection of parts for sda2b's that are definitely worthy of your level of craftsmanship,,,[upgraded crossovers and tweets- worth consideration]
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    I'll take a look. Thanks!
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    I don't know if this is proper but it is a great deal easier than painting MDF.
    One complement I have for this forum is the high res pictures. You can zoom up on these and see the most minute detail. I see things in the pictures I don't see, even with my glasses on.
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    edited April 2016
    Weak, old plastic with new seal bends and one hole cracked. Larry's ring for the crossover?
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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    edited April 2016
    The next discussion will be Monitor 7's. I have most of the parts. These will most likely get new drivers and RDO 198's. I have original crossovers that will get new caps, and a original pair of PR's.

    Look at me throwing around speaker talk like I know what I'm doing...

    Off to the fabric store for polyfill. I feel so uncomfortable in that store...
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,841
    willwilly wrote: »
    The next discussion will be Monitor 7's. I have most of the parts. These will most likely get new drivers and RDO 198's. I have original crossovers that will get new caps, and a original pair of PR's.

    Look at me throwing around speaker talk like I know what I'm doing...

    Off to the fabric store for polyfill. I feel so uncomfortable in that store...
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    If they have bonded Dacron, it will work better than Polyfil. It's what Polk used originally.

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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    No Bonded Dacron, 2" Polyfill...
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    A roll sitting behind the tweeter, and just a few staples to hold it in place...

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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,892
    Stock M10'S do not have Dacron in the PR compartment. Also it is rolled up behind the mids.
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    Other; M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

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  • willwilly
    willwilly Posts: 185
    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    Stock M10'S do not have Dacron in the PR compartment. Also it is rolled up behind the mids.
    Really, I have plenty of fill.
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