This joint needs some more vintage hifi

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,574
    What, are you tellin' me I should rent a truck?

    ;)

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,574
    'twas a joke. :p
    I think your thinking is right on vis-a-vis those, based on appearances.

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,574
    la2vegas wrote: »
    This guy has quite a spread of interesting audio items.xiikaxp9vabe.jpg

    umm... yup.
  • ken brydsonken brydson Posts: 7,911
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    la2vegas wrote: »
    This guy has quite a spread of interesting audio items.xiikaxp9vabe.jpg

    umm... yup.

    I had a feeling that would pop some Doc "wood".... ;)
    HT/Main- Panny 50" G10 Plasma, Pioneer SC-1222k AVR, Panny DMP-BD60 BDP, Polk LS90 mains, CS350LS center, LS/fx side surrounds, LS50 surround backs, SVS 25-31PC+ sub, Harmony One

    Office Rig- Marantz 2252B, Denon 2910, Kenwood KD2070 TT, Polk RTA 12B's/ RTA8t
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,574
    Lots of nice stuff. Looks like even a Marantz 8 or 8B peekin' out from behind one of those Duplexes :)

    I am a big 8B fan. Nice, nice sounding amplifier (especially given that it's PP EL34).

  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 7,430
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 7,430
    NU TZ is censored?
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    A Dual 1019...who else is excited?!?
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    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,574
    The underside of a DUAL... or a Garrard changer, for that matter...
    the stuff of nightmares.

    :o

  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    Embrace the fear...
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • maxwardmaxward Posts: 741
    What could possibly go wrong?
    Thorens TD-160C; Sumiko Talisman S, retipped by Soundsmith; Jolida JD9; Marantz CD-53; North Star Intenso;
    Joule-Electra LA-100; Balanced Power Technology AC conditioner;
    Odyssey Khartago monos (with most factory upgrades); Magnepan MG 3.6R
  • tonyp063tonyp063 Posts: 844
    maxward wrote: »
    What could possibly go wrong?

    Everything.
    Ask me how I know.*




    * a 1237
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,574
    Steuerpimpel, baby.

    :|

  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    The underside of a DUAL... or a Garrard changer, for that matter...
    the stuff of nightmares.

    :o
    Like this one?
    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/comment/2482238#Comment_2482238
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    Found this vintage integrated amp amongst my dad's collection last weekend.
    Pioneer SA-8100:
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    I did some testing/cleaning on it, so partially naked and in an awkward position in the pic. Based on initial tests, I think this will sound very nice once re-habbed a bit more.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • WardswebWardsweb Posts: 876
    I fixed this Nakamichi 700ZXE deck over the weekend.

    Living room: Clearaudio Champion II turntable, EAR 834P phono pre, Auralic Altair DAC/server, PS Audio Quintessence power, DIY 6H30 Class A Linestage, ASL AQ1006 845 DT MKII mono block amplifers, DIY Altec/JBL speakers, DIY Baltic birch rack
    Sun room: DIY Nelson Pass B1 w/Korg NuTube pre, Technics SL-1700 turntable, DIY Anaview d-class mono block amplfiers, JBL C50 Olympus speakers with custom Smith horns, Mapleshade Samson rack
    Den: Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver, Oppo BDP-103 player, Behringer EP 4000 sub amp, Electrovoice DX-38 active, DIY EL-34 horn amp, Behringer NU6000 bass amp, Klipsch Jubilee speakers, Martin Logan Cinema center, JBL SAT2 surrounds, Danley DTS-10 sub
    Dining room: Pro-Ject RPM 1 turntable, Shanling CD-T1500 SACD, Sumo Athena pre, SST Ampzilla 2000 amps, Quad 2905 speakers
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,574
    Nice deck, the 700...
  • maxwardmaxward Posts: 741
    @jdjohn that is the same integrated I bought in 1973 for my first system. It had an aggressive loudness contour and I often had to turn it off after my roommates listened to it.
    Thorens TD-160C; Sumiko Talisman S, retipped by Soundsmith; Jolida JD9; Marantz CD-53; North Star Intenso;
    Joule-Electra LA-100; Balanced Power Technology AC conditioner;
    Odyssey Khartago monos (with most factory upgrades); Magnepan MG 3.6R
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    Aggressive, for sure. The entire complement of tone control adjustments is somewhat daunting. Luckily, they are stepped attenuators instead of pots, so not terribly noisy. But there is a little scratchiness somewhere that I am still chasing. Cleaning the volume and balance pots helped a lot, and showed me the potential this unit has. This unit has seen better days, but I think it still has some life left in it :)
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 2,826
    Cambridge Audio 851N Streamer/DAC
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    Polk SDA 1C's modded
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
  • jbreezy5jbreezy5 Posts: 60
    jdjohn wrote: »
    A Dual 1019...who else is excited?!?
    fbwa77ouf33k.jpg

    I got a Dual 721. The speed varies a bit. I’m afraid to try to fix this after the photo. 😲

    Anyone know the pecking order for this against other Dual’s?
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,503
    I wish I had one of those Dual turntables when I was in prison. I could have taken it apart and fashioned a whole sheeetload of knives out of it. :D
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    jbreezy5 wrote: »
    I got a Dual 721. The speed varies a bit. I’m afraid to try to fix this after the photo. 😲

    Anyone know the pecking order for this against other Dual’s?
    The 721 is a direct-drive, so much less complicated. It is well-worth fixing, as it was Dual's TOTL direct-drive...much quieter than their idler and belt-drive tt's.

    First thing to try is cleaning the fine-pitch potentiometer with DeOxit.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • verbverb Posts: 10,313
    Viking64 wrote: »
    I wish I had one of those Dual turntables when I was in prison. I could have taken it apart and fashioned a whole sheeetload of knives out of it. :D

    Oh. When did you get out? :smile:
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, Marantz SA-14 SACD, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cables, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 5,503
    verb wrote: »
    Viking64 wrote: »
    I wish I had one of those Dual turntables when I was in prison. I could have taken it apart and fashioned a whole sheeetload of knives out of it. :D

    Oh. When did you get out? :smile:

    Sorry, I was a little deceptive with how I worded that.

    I am up for parole in 2023.
  • krazypolkkrazypolk Posts: 757
    Viking64 wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    Viking64 wrote: »
    I wish I had one of those Dual turntables when I was in prison. I could have taken it apart and fashioned a whole sheeetload of knives out of it. :D

    Oh. When did you get out? :smile:

    Sorry, I was a little deceptive with how I worded that.

    I am up for parole in 2023.

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  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    Viking64 wrote: »
    I wish I had one of those Dual turntables when I was in prison. I could have taken it apart and fashioned a whole sheeetload of knives out of it. :D
    I call BS. A man with real time in the joint would know they are called 'shanks'...not knives :p I've seen movies and stuff.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • jbreezy5jbreezy5 Posts: 60
    jdjohn wrote: »
    jbreezy5 wrote: »
    I got a Dual 721. The speed varies a bit. I’m afraid to try to fix this after the photo. 😲

    Anyone know the pecking order for this against other Dual’s?
    The 721 is a direct-drive, so much less complicated. It is well-worth fixing, as it was Dual's TOTL direct-drive...much quieter than their idler and belt-drive tt's.

    First thing to try is cleaning the fine-pitch potentiometer with DeOxit.

    Thanks!

    The plasticky base had me wondering; but the walnut finish, spring suspension, and tonearm seem top notch, as you say.

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  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,691
    There were always 'options' when purchasing new turntables, so the plinth/base was one such option. Yours has the 'tray' option, but here is one (mine :) ) that has the wooden plinth option.
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    The (suspended) chassis is the same for both, but the base/plinth is different. The included cartridge was another option.

    One nice feature of the 721 is that the tonearm counter-weight had more advanced anti-resonance properties. In fact, the stock counter-weight on a 721 (and same design from a few other models) is considered an upgrade to counter-weights on earlier Dual turntables with similar fittings.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • soundfreak1soundfreak1 Posts: 2,878
    krazypolk wrote: »
    Viking64 wrote: »
    verb wrote: »
    Viking64 wrote: »
    I wish I had one of those Dual turntables when I was in prison. I could have taken it apart and fashioned a whole sheeetload of knives out of it. :D

    Oh. When did you get out? :smile:

    Sorry, I was a little deceptive with how I worded that.

    I am up for parole in 2023.

    Parole Denied!a40117thfifs.jpg

    That's cold man....cold.
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    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
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    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
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