This joint needs some more vintage hifi

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  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,081
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  • 55LS7055LS70 Posts: 167
    edited October 2018
    I use to have a similar model. If my nomenclature is correct, mine was the Type 299, with the transformers perpendicular to the faceplate. The first model in that series. Now, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, on the Type 299-A the transformers were parallel to the faceplate. When I retired and my family banished me and my stereo to the basement, I sold it, along with numerous other H.H. Scott items, to make room. Although I still have, and use, a modded 330-D am/fm tuner and Type 335 multiplex. I always thought the 299's were sharp looking amps.
    NEW P-3 Pre: RCA 12BH7, 2 X Telefunken ECC82 smooth plates, Cary SLA70B Signature V2 Amplifier: 2 X Mullard GZ32's, 2 X RCA/GE 5691's, 4 X Tung-Sol 6550's

    Cambridge Audio 640C V2 CD Player & Dacmagic DAC

    Rega Planar 3: Deep Groove Subplatter, P3 Motor
    upgrade, Dynavector 10x5, JA Michell counterwieght, Cardas tonearm wiring and Mapleshade stand

    Parks Audio Budgie Hybrid Phonostage with BEL 6922 tubes, Polk Audio LS70's

    H.H. Scott 330D AM/FM Tuner with H.H. Scott 335 Multiplex adaptor.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,029
    Almost all of the vacuum tube era HH Scott stuff was extremely attractive, at least from my perspective.

    Dunno about you, but I would love to have a Scott 399 receiver (even though it predates FM MPX stereo, being of the "AM-FM simulcast stereo" era).

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    (borrowed images, needless to say!)
  • 55LS7055LS70 Posts: 167
    That's an impressive piece of equipment. I've seen one or two matched with the H.H. Scott 335 multiplex, but the multiplex is so much smaller than the receiver it kind of looks out of place. But that's what you have to do to get stereo. Also, there's a lot of tubes to take care of. I had two, a pair of Amperex Orange Globe ECC82's from the same batch, go south at the same time. At the time it took me quite a while to find them as I didn't have a tube checker and I was trying to find a bad one by changing one tube with a known good replacement and turning the tuner/multiplex back on to see if the problem went away. Only when somebody told me that there were a lot of issues with those Amperex's, that I figured out that both were bad. I replaced them with 'funkens and have been listening to the tuner, almost daily, ever since. That's been about five years and I haven't replaced a tube since.

    FWIW, I use my H.H. Scott components without cases, but I do have cases that match the one in the bottom photo. I purchased them from a guy, in Michigan if I remember correctly, that makes them. They're very nice, but when I have the tuner/multiplex in them, they become too big for their shelf. Besides, they seem to run a little cooler. I don't know if that would be a factor for a tuner or a multiplex.

    I think that receiver would be a good match for those Altec Lansing speakers that you mention from time to time. They're not unobtanium as I see 399's come up for sale every so often. My tuner and multiplex were rebuilt/modified by Mapleshade. I still think they perform the service. Actually I've heard they sent them out for that work, but when I got them back, I found the workmanship/sound quality to be excellent. I have to admit, it wasn't a cheap endeavor, but I do listen to the tuner quite a bit, so for me, I felt the cost was justified. I would love to hear a reworked 399.
    NEW P-3 Pre: RCA 12BH7, 2 X Telefunken ECC82 smooth plates, Cary SLA70B Signature V2 Amplifier: 2 X Mullard GZ32's, 2 X RCA/GE 5691's, 4 X Tung-Sol 6550's

    Cambridge Audio 640C V2 CD Player & Dacmagic DAC

    Rega Planar 3: Deep Groove Subplatter, P3 Motor
    upgrade, Dynavector 10x5, JA Michell counterwieght, Cardas tonearm wiring and Mapleshade stand

    Parks Audio Budgie Hybrid Phonostage with BEL 6922 tubes, Polk Audio LS70's

    H.H. Scott 330D AM/FM Tuner with H.H. Scott 335 Multiplex adaptor.
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 899
    How about this H.H Scottgrwdqaxr99pd.jpg
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    ?
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 7,448
    Fire Hazard? :#
    Radio and room heater all in one. ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,029
    edited October 2018
    ^^^ Not HH Scott, that radio is by EH Scott -- sort of the Duesenberg of the AM radio era.

    https://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_hersteller_detail.cfm?company_id=3325
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 899
    Wasn't E. H. Scott the predecessor of H. H. Scott? Duesenbergs were bad as!
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 19,589
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Duesenbergs were bad as!

    They still are... little known fact is that Enzo Ferrari began his racing team with a 1923 Miller race car as part of his stable. From it, he learned much about building engines, such as dual overhead cams and 4 valves per cylinder, dual spark, timing advance, and a host of other bits.... the miller Racing cars were designed and constructed by Fred and August Duesenberg. It could be said that Ferrari as we know them today are descendants of those proud machines.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,029
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Wasn't E. H. Scott the predecessor of H. H. Scott? Duesenbergs were bad as!

    http://www.hhscott.com/


    Nope, HH Scott was Hermon Hosmer Scott and was based in Maynard Massachusetts.
    "Hosmer" is a good old New England name, BTW.

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    EH Scott was the top-end maker of radios from the Golden Age of Radio (starting, I think, in the 1920s) into the (early) postwar era. EH Scott was based in Chicago, and came to sort of a bad end in the 1960s as "Scott Radio Laboratories". The last products of the company were/are often confused with HH Scott equipment, and I believe that HH Scott may have ultimately actually sued (and won) to keep that other Scott company from using the name on their products. I'll have to dig a little more to confirm that, though.

    There's actually not much easy-to-find info on EH Scott, despite the near-legendary status of their radios.

    There is a book, FWIW:
    https://www.amazon.com/H-Scott-History-Classic-Expanded/dp/0972330100
    http://www.antiqueradio.com/bkrev1_02-03.html

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    https://www.otrcat.com/grandpa-walter-s-scott-memories-and-recollections-of-a-classic-1930s-radio-receiver

    Here's a not-too-good photo (from www.radiomuseum.org :p, watermark & all) of a late "Scott Radio Labs" product. Note the logo, with a musical note.

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  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 899
    Wow. That's a Doozie! Hmm wonder where that saying came from...
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
  • stuweestuwee Posts: 1,536
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Wow. That's a Doozie! Hmm wonder where that saying came from...


    Doh! An Hmmm is another one to think about :p

    Thorens TD125MKII, SME3009,Shure V15/ Teac V-8000S, Denon DN-790R cass, Teac 3340 RtR decks, Onix CD2...Sumo Electra Plus pre>SAE A1001 amp>Martin Logan Summit's
  • krazypolkkrazypolk Posts: 415
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,029
    ^^ Nice Scott integrated amplifier -- don't see many of those!
    stuwee wrote: »
    audioluvr wrote: »
    Wow. That's a Doozie! Hmm wonder where that saying came from...


    Doh! An Hmmm is another one to think about :p

    I have read (on the internet ;) ) that the term "doozie"/"doozy" predates the Duesenberg... but, historically, the term and the car brand's name are pretty tightly intertwined.
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 3,253
    edited October 2018
    ^^^Those are some nice rides.
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SRS 2, SDA 2B, SDA II,SDA 1C, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, 4, RTA 11TL, RTA 8TL, RTA 8T, LSI9 Ebony, LSI7 EBONY, LSI7 CHERRY, LSIC, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,081
    edited November 2018
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    In a recent audio acquisition, the seller threw in some Electrovoice Wolverine drivers. I have no idea what I will do with them, but thought this might be the appropriate place to share.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,029
    edited November 2018
    :)

    Nice! (but, then again, I literally grew up with a pair of those, so I am sort of an unrepentant fanboy)

    It's a pair of LS-12s. There are good things to do with them.
    I used to have, I think, five of them here... now I think there are only four.

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    source: www.alliedcatalogs.com (1961)

    They will work pretty well on an open baffle -- or no baffle at all, if you're as lazy as I am. ;)

    33094026905_79853b9406_h.jpgDSC_7144 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    The do benefit from a "super" tweeter. Or just a regular tweeter... as long as it can keep up... they're pretty sensitive.

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,029
    edited November 2018
    This one has an owwie on its cone. :(
    Easily remedied, though.

    33094025335_99ea2b9a2d_h.jpgDSC_7165 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,081
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    This one has an owwie on its cone. :(
    Easily remedied, though.

    33094025335_99ea2b9a2d_h.jpgDSC_7165 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    How would you suggest to remedy the owwie? I think that is the main reason it was given to me.
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,081
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    :)

    Nice! (but, then again, I literally grew up with a pair of those, so I am sort of an unrepentant fanboy)

    It's a pair of LS-12s. There are good things to do with them.
    I used to have, I think, five of them here... now I think there are only four.

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    source: www.alliedcatalogs.com (1961)

    They will work pretty well on an open baffle -- or no baffle at all, if you're as lazy as I am. ;)

    33094026905_79853b9406_h.jpgDSC_7144 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    The do benefit from a "super" tweeter. Or just a regular tweeter... as long as it can keep up... they're pretty sensitive.

    Doc--I set them up in that "lazy" configuration. I am running a small tube amp on them....not nearly as nice as the one you have in the pic. But they sound decent. I may have to hang onto these for an.open baffle project.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,029
    There are many paths. Basically you want a strong, flexible, light 'patch'.
    My father used to use one ply of toilet paper saturated with nail polish remover. his patches were very nice esthetically and functionally. Some folks like to use, umm, cigarette rolling papers. Yeah, cigarette. That's the ticket! ;) Model airplane dope or thin flexible adhesives can be used. The brute force approach, which actually also works OK is to just use a thicker but still flexible adhesive. GC (General Cement) still sells a "Service Cement" which lists "speaker repair" right on the label. Rubber cement would probably be OK in a pinch. I suspect Aileen's Tacky Glue (which is what I like to use for replacing foam surrounds) would probably work OK, too.

    Several threads at AK on the topic, plus I am sure others here have more professional experience at cone repair than do I!
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 7,448
    edited November 2018
    Aileen's Tacky Glue . On the backside maybe.

    I love that stuff. They make a lot of different glues. I love the clear tacky version. B)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,029
    I appreciate tacky stuff in general -- and Aileen's in particular. ;)
  • I have used shoe goo to repair surrounds and cones in the past but like you said some kind of binder would be required until it was fully set
    Home System:
    SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
    800 Va Dreadnought- Speaker Interconnect
    WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
    Cambridge Audio Azur 851N - DAC/Streamer
    B&K Reference 50 Pre/Pro
    B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
    BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
    Cambridge Audio DVD 99
    Sangean HD FM Tuner

    Barn system:
    SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
    Carver C-1 pre
    Carver M1.5t
    BluDenso - Bluetooth receiver/DAC
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