This joint needs some more vintage hifi

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  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,489
    edited November 2018
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    In a recent audio acquisition, the seller threw in some Electrovoice Wolverine drivers. I have no idea what I will do with them, but thought this might be the appropriate place to share.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    edited November 2018
    :)

    Nice! (but, then again, I literally grew up with a pair of those, so I am sort of an unrepentant fanboy)

    It's a pair of LS-12s. There are good things to do with them.
    I used to have, I think, five of them here... now I think there are only four.

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    source: www.alliedcatalogs.com (1961)

    They will work pretty well on an open baffle -- or no baffle at all, if you're as lazy as I am. ;)

    33094026905_79853b9406_h.jpgDSC_7144 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    The do benefit from a "super" tweeter. Or just a regular tweeter... as long as it can keep up... they're pretty sensitive.

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    edited November 2018
    This one has an owwie on its cone. :(
    Easily remedied, though.

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  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,489
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    This one has an owwie on its cone. :(
    Easily remedied, though.

    33094025335_99ea2b9a2d_h.jpgDSC_7165 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    How would you suggest to remedy the owwie? I think that is the main reason it was given to me.
  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,489
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    :)

    Nice! (but, then again, I literally grew up with a pair of those, so I am sort of an unrepentant fanboy)

    It's a pair of LS-12s. There are good things to do with them.
    I used to have, I think, five of them here... now I think there are only four.

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    source: www.alliedcatalogs.com (1961)

    They will work pretty well on an open baffle -- or no baffle at all, if you're as lazy as I am. ;)

    33094026905_79853b9406_h.jpgDSC_7144 (2) by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    The do benefit from a "super" tweeter. Or just a regular tweeter... as long as it can keep up... they're pretty sensitive.

    Doc--I set them up in that "lazy" configuration. I am running a small tube amp on them....not nearly as nice as the one you have in the pic. But they sound decent. I may have to hang onto these for an.open baffle project.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    There are many paths. Basically you want a strong, flexible, light 'patch'.
    My father used to use one ply of toilet paper saturated with nail polish remover. his patches were very nice esthetically and functionally. Some folks like to use, umm, cigarette rolling papers. Yeah, cigarette. That's the ticket! ;) Model airplane dope or thin flexible adhesives can be used. The brute force approach, which actually also works OK is to just use a thicker but still flexible adhesive. GC (General Cement) still sells a "Service Cement" which lists "speaker repair" right on the label. Rubber cement would probably be OK in a pinch. I suspect Aileen's Tacky Glue (which is what I like to use for replacing foam surrounds) would probably work OK, too.

    Several threads at AK on the topic, plus I am sure others here have more professional experience at cone repair than do I!
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,104
    edited November 2018
    Aileen's Tacky Glue . On the backside maybe.

    I love that stuff. They make a lot of different glues. I love the clear tacky version. B)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    I appreciate tacky stuff in general -- and Aileen's in particular. ;)
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 2,259
    I have used shoe goo to repair surrounds and cones in the past but like you said some kind of binder would be required until it was fully set
    One foot on audio nirvana and the other in the poor house.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    edited October 2019
    I do like the aesthetics of those semi-hifi Panasonic combination units. I like the round record level meters on the one pictured above. Truth be told, though, the previous models, overall, were aesthetically preferable (to me) -- de gustibus non est disputandum, of course. :)


    They (Panasonic, i.e., Matsush!ta*) sold versions with no tape, with cassette and with the (above-pictured) 8 track on board.

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    I dig that groovy bronze color, baby! :#

    They were all a notch more interesting than the usual "all-in-ones", IMO, and even had quasi-hifi quality specifications (and the chutzpah to publish them).

    They recommended Panasonic Thusters for use with them, too, of course. ;)

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    9728329873_fe4ec855da_o.jpgpanasign1 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    B)

    Interestingly, the manual for the RA-6600 (earlier, bronze-faced 8 track morph shown above) is available from Hifiengine: https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/panasonic/ra-6600.shtml

    I get the occasional, perverse urge to buy one of them :|
    (and not that I'm proud of that, mind you...)

    ____________
    * I wrote the old name of Panasonic's parent corporation funny to avoid Vanilla's touchiness :/

  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,104
    My recently fixed by a elec. tech. JVC 5540u receiver. I just got done doing a 1 -1/2hr. jam session. I love this thing! The volume dial is at the 9:00 position. That's pretty much pushing the volume of the speakers to the max. level anybody would want to listen at before hearing damage occurs. 35 watts....come on...it's like it should be 300 watts. :D
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    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    FWIW, from the manual, here're the published specs for the Panasonic RA-6600

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  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,419
    Quite handsome receiver there, and appears to have the same power (or lack thereof) as my example. Actually, that bronze goddess looks more powerful than she is.

    My example sports a single one of those trapezoidal output transistors. I suppose these have their place as eye-candy, if nothing else...with the right speakers...in the right room :)

    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,249
    Saw these Altecs in a local ad. Not sure if they're of any significance.ccbxj4yp3r3p.jpg
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    edited October 2019
    I am not 100% sure which model they are. They're not 846A Valencias, nor 846B Valencias. The former have are ported on either side of the 811B treble horn; the latter have more normal ports -- but two of them (one on either side of the woofer). Doesn't look like a Milano or a Flamenco; dunno which model they are... but they've got 416 woofers and 811B horns (maybe 808 or 806 treble drivers; I'm speculatin' here). I don't think they're 511B horns, but I'd need dimensions or to see 'em in person.

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    846B
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    Whatever they are -- I would be all over them for ca. $1200 or less the pair (especially since they look pretty good cosmetically).
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,249
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    Thanks for your assessment, the price begins with a 2. :#

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    edited October 2019
    Nice.
    I don't have any idea which precise model they are :p I must admit.
    Drivers are gorgeous.

    I think the 803B is essentially identical to a 416 (which is a very good thing -- superb drivers).

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    The 804A I have no experience with :p
    It might be essentially the same as an 806(??).

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
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    la2vegas wrote: »
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    Thanks for your assessment, the price begins with a 2. :#

    Probably easily worth it in that condition -- just wouldn't be worth it to me right now given what's already here.
  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,249
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
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    la2vegas wrote: »
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    Thanks for your assessment, the price begins with a 2. :#

    Probably easily worth it in that condition -- just wouldn't be worth it to me right now given what's already here.

    Good news, the price has come down to $1500. :)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    What, are you tellin' me I should rent a truck?

    ;)

  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,249
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    What, are you tellin' me I should rent a truck?

    ;)

    No, not at all. Just thinking out loud that in the end your 1200 dollar assessment might be right on. I like them more and more as the price drops.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    'twas a joke. :p
    I think your thinking is right on vis-a-vis those, based on appearances.

  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,249
    This guy has quite a spread of interesting audio items.xiikaxp9vabe.jpg
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    la2vegas wrote: »
    This guy has quite a spread of interesting audio items.xiikaxp9vabe.jpg

    umm... yup.
  • ken brydsonken brydson Posts: 7,773
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    la2vegas wrote: »
    This guy has quite a spread of interesting audio items.xiikaxp9vabe.jpg

    umm... yup.

    I had a feeling that would pop some Doc "wood".... ;)
    HT/Main- Panny 50" G10 Plasma, Pioneer SC-1222k AVR, Panny DMP-BD60 BDP, Polk LS90 mains, CS350LS center, LS/fx side surrounds, LS50 surround backs, SVS 25-31PC+ sub, Harmony One

    Office Rig- Marantz 2252B, Denon 2910, Kenwood KD2070 TT, Polk RTA 12B's/ RTA8t
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,568
    Lots of nice stuff. Looks like even a Marantz 8 or 8B peekin' out from behind one of those Duplexes :)

    I am a big 8B fan. Nice, nice sounding amplifier (especially given that it's PP EL34).

  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 4,249
    edited November 2019
    I believe that in fact it is an 8B.91q3flw6vx69.jpg
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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 7,175
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 7,175
    NU TZ is censored?
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
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