Osama Bin Ladin is dead

shack

They should have left his carcass in the street to be eaten by dogs....

wayne3burk

ok - I read about 3 and half pages of these posts / responses / reposts and rerespones.

In my conspiracy theory minded brain, I believed all the audio tapes released of / by Bin Laden in the past were just fakes, released by the CIA to drum up fear and ratings for the then sitting president. My theory being that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 from kidney failure ::))D

So in the interest of fairness, I'm now compelled to believe that the current news story is also fiction, and is merely the kick-off of BHO 2012 re-election bid. Keeping with my previous conspiracy theory, they buried the body at sea, because there is no body to bury....

hold on, my tin hat is slipping... there, much better

carry on

wayne

tonyb

How about we all say we are happier than pigs sh$t that the sucker is dead and leave it at that.

indyhawg

Best news I have heard in a while. The death he got was too good for him though.

Jstas

I dunno. Something's up with this story. Too many questions unanswered. Too many claims that can't be proven.

And if this all really is true, how much is Pakistan sweatin' a call from the U.S. Department of State right now?

Can you imagine Billary callin' up Pakistan and sayin' "Dude...really? He was in Abbaboobabbaba? Srsly? I thought we were besties? You know what? You're DEAD to me! DEAD!"

FTGV

He's fish food now.

inspiredsports

dee1949 wrote: »

. . . this new type of war , based on Religious beliefs, will linger for many many years.

New ??? Maybe I'm naive, but I'm not sure there was ever a war that was NOT based upon religious beliefs . . .

inspiredsports

wayne3burk wrote: »

ok - I read about 3 and half pages of these posts / responses / reposts and rerespones.

In my conspiracy theory minded brain, I believed all the audio tapes released of / by Bin Laden in the past were just fakes, released by the CIA to drum up fear and ratings for the then sitting president. My theory being that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 from kidney failure ::))D

So in the interest of fairness, I'm now compelled to believe that the current news story is also fiction, and is merely the kick-off of BHO 2012 re-election bid. Keeping with my previous conspiracy theory, they buried the body at sea, because there is no body to bury....

hold on, my tin hat is slipping... there, much better

carry on

wayne

Don't forget the (forged?) birth certificate was produced within the past week also :biggrin:

kevhed72

What kind of gear do you think he had set up in that compound...SS or tubes.
Or maybe just a Bose Cube System, which would more easy to take with him when he was on the run....

DMara

inspiredsports wrote: »

New ??? Maybe I'm naive, but I'm not sure there was ever a war that was NOT based upon religious beliefs . . .

How about the Civil War?

dkg999

Jstas wrote: »

I dunno. Something's up with this story. Too many questions unanswered. Too many claims that can't be proven.

And if this all really is true, how much is Pakistan sweatin' a call from the U.S. Department of State right now?

Can you imagine Billary callin' up Pakistan and sayin' "Dude...really? He was in Abbaboobabbaba? Srsly? I thought we were besties? You know what? You're DEAD to me! DEAD!"

Well hopefully they consulted with some guys from Joisey on how to make his body sink to the bottom and stay there :eek:

You do have to wonder about the "no pictures" thing. Everyone of those helos has a camera aboard streaming data. They reference being able to see the firefight in real-time back at command ops. So let's learn from the whole birth certificate fiasco and not have The Donald shooting his mouth off at the lack of proof that OBL existed or was actually taken out.

shack

inspiredsports wrote:

New ??? Maybe I'm naive, but I'm not sure there was ever a war that was NOT based upon religious beliefs

DMara wrote:

How about the Civil War?

You can add our war for independence, the war of 1812, the Spanish-American war, WWI, WWII, the Korean Confilict, the Vietnam war....just to name a few the US was involved in.

comfortablycurt

Jstas wrote: »

I dunno. Something's up with this story. Too many questions unanswered. Too many claims that can't be proven.

And if this all really is true, how much is Pakistan sweatin' a call from the U.S. Department of State right now?

Can you imagine Billary callin' up Pakistan and sayin' "Dude...really? He was in Abbaboobabbaba? Srsly? I thought we were besties? You know what? You're DEAD to me! DEAD!"

I love this post.

[Deleted User]

kevhed72 wrote: »

What kind of gear do you think he had set up in that compound...SS or tubes.
Or maybe just a Bose Cube System, which would more easy to take with him when he was on the run....

I'll bet it was an iPod w/ docking station. :cool:

nooshinjohn

kevhed72 wrote: »

What kind of gear do you think he had set up in that compound...SS or tubes.
Or maybe just a Bose Cube System, which would more easy to take with him when he was on the run....

I have no idea, but this should serve as a lesson to all those out there that think cables don't matter.

Jstas

nap wrote: »

I'll bet it was an iPod w/ docking station. :cool:

How much would it suck if he had an IHT?

Strong Bad

After all this time we finally get his **** and there's still people not satisfied! WTF!!! With all the mountainous terrain and network of scumbags helping him, how hard would it be to hide? People must think our military has a magic wand and all they have to do is wave it to find whomever they want in an instant. Just goes to show there's that special group of us that has ZERO patience whatsoever!

I'm glad he's dead! This sends a clear message that we won't give up and eventually we'll get your ****!

wz2p7j

The hideout is clearly marked on Google Earth:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=34.169174,73.242413&num=1&t=h&sll=34.174569,73.239494&sspn=0.006295,0.006295&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=34.169204,73.242416&spn=0.001576,0.002401&z=19

:cool::cool:

Danny Tse

I don't know how many of you know that the Official White House Photographer, Pete Souza, has a publicly accessible photo album of his photos on Flickr.com. As of this post, Mr. Souza has just updated his photo album with photos involving the Bin Laden situation. You can see the photos in the below link....

The White House Photostream

kappclark

wayne3burk wrote: »

ok - I read about 3 and half pages of these posts / responses / reposts and rerespones.


So in the interest of fairness, I'm now compelled to believe that the current news story is also fiction, and is merely the kick-off of BHO 2012 re-election bid. Keeping with my previous conspiracy theory, they buried the body at sea, because there is no body to bury....

hold on, my tin hat is slipping... there, much better

carry on

wayne

Where is the body ? Oh, right .. burial at sea.. of course -- respect the Islamic custom .. let's just say whatever the news media says and the President says is right...This may be right up there with those pesky WMD's we kept hearing about .. do u think the Govt has made me too cynical ??

inspiredsports

DMara wrote: »

How about the Civil War?

shack wrote: »

You can add our war for independence, the war of 1812, the Spanish-American war, WWI, WWII, the Korean Confilict, the Vietnam war....just to name a few the US was involved in.

Seriously? You don't think our countries core religious values were involved in disagreements about the following?

--- Civil War - Whether or not the new states in the west (like California) would be a slave states or free.
--- Vietnam Conflict: to stop the spread of Communism.
--- War of Indepencence: the British felt their American lands were there to provide raw materials, but the colonists were there because they wanted freedom of religion.
--- The War of 1812: Most don't know that the main issue was Cuban independence. American public opinion grew angrier at reports of Spanish atrocities which let to the war.
--- WWI: incredibly complicated as it turned out, but Austria-Hungary issued an ultimatum to Serbia which basically nullified Serbia's sovereignty as a nation. The roots of the conflict were sown centuries earlier when (Christian) Austrian Hapsburg armies battled (Muslim) Ottoman Serbs.
--- WWII: many say it started with WWI which never really ended until the end of WWII. But the extermination of 6 million people based upon religion not religious in nature? Come on.

Libertyc

They should have nailed him to a cross and burned him. Plus Pakistan should be nuked...they knew he was there.

treitz3

I really hate being lied too. That's all I have to say about that.

shack

inspiredsports wrote: »

Seriously? You don't think our countries core religious values were involved in disagreements about the following?

--- Civil War - Whether or not the new states in the west (like California) would be a slave states or free.
--- Vietnam Conflict: to stop the spread of Communism.
--- War of Indepencence: the British felt their American lands were there to provide raw materials, but the colonists were there because they wanted freedom of religion.
--- The War of 1812: Most don't know that the main issue was Cuban independence. American public opinion grew angrier at reports of Spanish atrocities which let to the war.
--- WWI: incredibly complicated as it turned out, but Austria-Hungary issued an ultimatum to Serbia which basically nullified Serbia's sovereignty as a nation. The roots of the conflict were sown centuries earlier when (Christian) Austrian Hapsburg armies battled (Muslim) Ottoman Serbs.
--- WWII: many say it started with WWI which never really ended until the end of WWII. But the extermination of 6 million people based upon religion not religious in nature? Come on.

If you think religion was the root cause of any of these conflicts you are trying to rewrite history...or just looking to justify your statement...either of which is blatantly false.

Polkersince85

The War of 1812:Cuban independence?

I thought we fought the British.

sucks2beme

shack wrote: »

If you think religion was the root cause of any of these conflicts you are trying to rewrite history...or just looking to justify your statement...either of which is blatantly false.

Come on guys, don't go there. We can't even agree on what defines
a class"a" amp.

He's dead. Lets hope he has a lot of company soon.

xj4094dg

kappclark wrote: »

Where is the body ? Oh, right .. burial at sea.. of course -- respect the Islamic custom .. let's just say whatever the news media says and the President says is right...This may be right up there with those pesky WMD's we kept hearing about .. do u think the Govt has made me too cynical ??

Stop watching Glen Beck.

Jstas

inspiredsports wrote: »

Seriously? You don't think our countries core religious values were involved in disagreements about the following?

Sorry, I think you're off base.

inspiredsports wrote: »

--- Civil War - Whether or not the new states in the west (like California) would be a slave states or free.

Slavery, to the common Northerner, was about ethical and moral issues. The war on the other hand was sparked by Southerners who saw their way of life and massive fortunes going away because there was no way to have the massive plantations and support the fragile agricultural economy without slavery. If they had to actually pay all of those workers, there'd be no Antebellum South. It was about the economics and money behind the slavery, not freedom for the slaves. Lincoln made it about freeing the slaves to appeal to the Northerners who viewed the war as unpopular so he could gain their support to continue effort to preserve the Union.

inspiredsports wrote: »

--- Vietnam Conflict: to stop the spread of Communism.

Yes and no. We did not go to Vietnam of our own accord. We were asked to help police an action taken by an aggressive nation that just happened to be communist. We did the same thing in Kuwait and Bosnia. Vietnam became the mess that it was because the U.S.S.R. was funneling resources to the NVA. There was no religion behind it at all.

inspiredsports wrote: »

--- War of Indepencence: the British felt their American lands were there to provide raw materials, but the colonists were there because they wanted freedom of religion.

The colonists came for a number of things, religious freedom being one of them. Wealth, power, a new life, adventure were a few other reasons. The American War for Independence was fought over unfair treatment by the crown. Things like taxation without representation and conscription were the biggies. Religious freedoms wasn't even mentioned in the Declaration that led to the war. It's in the Constitution but not the Declaration. In fact, here is the list of facts concerning the tyranny over the states:

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

inspiredsports wrote: »

--- The War of 1812: Most don't know that the main issue was Cuban independence. American public opinion grew angrier at reports of Spanish atrocities which let to the war.

I have no idea where you got that from but pretty much every history text states similarly that:

The Americans declared war in 1812 for a number of reasons, including a desire for expansion into the Northwest Territory, trade restrictions because of Britain's ongoing war with France, impressment of American merchant sailors into the Royal Navy, British support of American Indian tribes against American expansion, and the humiliation of American honour.

The War of 1812 had absolutely nothing to do with religion. The Cuban issues may have been a later issue in the war but far from the reason the war was ever waged.

inspiredsports wrote: »

--- WWI: incredibly complicated as it turned out, but Austria-Hungary issued an ultimatum to Serbia which basically nullified Serbia's sovereignty as a nation. The roots of the conflict were sown centuries earlier when (Christian) Austrian Hapsburg armies battled (Muslim) Ottoman Serbs.

So just because you have two ethnic groups squabbling over political rights to territories, that makes it religious? No, sorry, WWI was started after the assassination of a monarch that one group of people did not believe had the right to the throne. Pretty much how Europe did war for 900 years previous. Not much had to do with religion until one side needed money. Then they played the religion card to get the Catholic Church to front the bill. WWI though, religion was never a factor. The only religion involved was all those soldiers praying to God to save their **** on the battlefields.

inspiredsports wrote: »

--- WWII: many say it started with WWI which never really ended until the end of WWII. But the extermination of 6 million people based upon religion not religious in nature? Come on.

WWII did not start in WWI. Yes, Hitler blamed the state of the German economy on the peace treaty from WWI that shafted a demolished Germany. It wasn't the peace treaty that caused the problems or the economic sanctions. It was the massive debt load Germany was carrying from having to pay reparations and reconstruction costs from WWI. Hitler used the poor economic conditions after WWI (that were global, BTW, not just in Germany, you know, The Great Depression?) to gain the favor of the masses to vote his **** party in to office. Once he got there, his psychosis took over and he began empire building. WWII began when Hitler and his Slovak buddies marched right on in to Poland and said "This is MINE! MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!" England said "Sorry 'ole chap but I think you are mistaken." Hitler said "Oh yeah?! Well poo nuggets on you!" Then declared war on France and England. Hitler started yammering on about the Third Reich, Arian Races and a new world order and just generally going bat poo insane. Hitler exterminated people out of bigotry and insanity. Jews were just one. Hitler also exterminated Serbs, Poles, Hungarians, Lithuanians, Romanians...you name an Eastern Bloc country and Hitler hated them. He didn't hate just Jews either. He exterminated Catholics as well and what few Buddhists, Daoists and other odd religions that he could find. The Jews just get all the press because they were the majority and the people that all the propaganda singled out.

I think you need to go back to history class.

RuSsMaN

I think you need a blo, nevermind.

He's dead. We killed him. Top Gun high-five.

ESavinon

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