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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,775
    edited April 2011
    Finally got my tracking #'s after a week. We must have slammed these guys :biggrin: No delivery date yet though....
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  • carwashguy
    carwashguy Posts: 131
    edited April 2011
    Got my tracking number today. About two weeks from beginning to end.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,454
    edited April 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Whew....If you had intended on using those monster cables with those nice tube amps your building, I would spend the gas money to come down there and slap you upside the head.:biggrin:

    Bring it Tony!!! Everyone will be here May 22nd. :tongue:


    You really should try and make it down.
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • squeeb
    squeeb Posts: 426
    edited April 2011
    My 30 footers arrived yesterday. I will probably need to strip the ends to keep my wall mounted FXiA6's flush. I doubt spades would help since there is not much space.

    Other than that, they look great and hope they will be an improvement over Mono bulk wire. We shall see.
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    I got my plastics things on! hair dryer :)
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2011
    Got mine today, $65.71 charge from UPS along with the $28.14 shipping charge. Total shipping to my door in Ontario, Canada was $93.85

    MIT shipping to Canada: $28.14
    UPS brokerage fee: $39.10
    HST:$21.53 (Goverment Sales Tax)

    I knew it was going to cost more to get them here, I still think I got a great deal.

    Thanks again "Keiko" for providing the link and passing this deal along to fellow forum members. Greatly appreciated.

    Going to assemble them later today and try them out! I will give first impressions once hooked up and also later on in their burned in life
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,454
    edited April 2011
    cokewithvanilla wrote: »
    I got my plastics things on! hair dryer :)


    DUH!!
    WINNING!!!!:tongue::biggrin:
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited April 2011
    gfong wrote: »
    Thanks again "Keiko" for providing the link and passing this deal along to fellow forum members. Greatly appreciated.

    Going to assemble them later today and try them out! I will give first impressions once hooked up and also later on in their burned in life

    Keep us posted. +1 on the thank to Keiko for the heads up, great find.
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2011
    Hooked up the 2 rear 30fts, the 2 front left and right 12 fts and the center 10 ft. Put in a nice multi-channel SACD of Spyro Gyra "Original Cinema" and sat back.

    I was not sure what to expect as I really liked the sound that I had with the Audioquest Type 4's.

    Well these b stock MIT cables sold me! Very nice sound, airy and light, full of music, seems like there is more music playing then before! It has opened up more.

    My 2 rear channels had 14 AWG wire running to them and not the Audioquest Type 4's that the front stage had. The rears have woke up a lot with the addition of the 30 ft MIT's. Whole new sound coming from them now.

    Comparing the Audioquest Type 4's and the MIT's, I would say that the MIT's are livelier, fuller with more detail.

    The Type 4's are very analog sounding, deep bass, nice mids but the highs seem to roll off and get lost on some recordings, especially jazz and blues. They did well with classic rock though.
    With this light jazz recording I am listening to now, the Type 4's sounded a little muffled compared to the MIT EXp 2's. If you are at all familiar with Spyro Gyra, they use some steel drums and they sound outstanding with the new cables. Very impressed.

    I am going to keep the MIT's on my set-up and will test the Blu-Ray movies out tomorrow and see how they cope.

    Very satisfied with the MITs and I would purchase them again or recommend them to anyone.
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  • chargerman426
    chargerman426 Posts: 419
    edited April 2011
    I got mine Friday and just hooked them up. Not doing any real listening right now so I don't want to pass any judgment on these cables. Just thought I would mention that mine finally showed up.
    If life had more tubes it would be a lot smoother.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,986
    edited April 2011
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Bring it Tony!!! Everyone will be here May 22nd. :tongue:


    You really should try and make it down.

    Funny thing John, I'll be in Cali, staking out your new joint, waiting for the moving truck with 2 heavy boxes that may contain the likes of some monster tube amps. Old habits die hard bro.:smile:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,986
    edited April 2011
    John, I would love to make it down, but after this trip, I'll be so broke I won't be able to pay attention. If it wasn't for the wife getting a well deserved bonus, my vacation would be at the local water park for 3 days....no nights, just days.:smile:
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited April 2011
    Mine come today! Gotta go to work in an hour, hopefully they come soon so i can sign for em. Can't wait to hook them up and start breaking them in.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,775
    edited April 2011
    B Run wrote: »
    Mine come today! Gotta go to work in an hour, hopefully they come soon so i can sign for em. Can't wait to hook them up and start breaking them in.

    Got mine last night. Haven't hooked them up but had them out long enough to realize that I should have ordered 12 footers. My right channel is gonna be tight.
    Might be a stretch but anyone who is not anal about equal length cables (I'm not) be interested in trading a 10' for a 12'? I'd obviously pay the difference plus shipping for both.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,214
    edited April 2011
    ken brydson wrote: »
    Got mine last night. Haven't hooked them up but had them out long enough to realize that I should have ordered 12 footers. My right channel is gonna be tight.
    Might be a stretch but anyone who is not anal about equal length cables (I'm not) be interested in trading a 10' for a 12'? I'd obviously pay the difference plus shipping for both.

    I've got a 15' I could trade for a 10' if you don't find a taker for a 12'.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,775
    edited April 2011
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    I've got a 15' I could trade for a 10' if you don't find a taker for a 12'.

    That might work. Send me a PM with what you think is fair for the difference.
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited April 2011
    Got mine in and all hooked up. The first thing I noticed was the quality when unpacking them. I wasn't blown away and i'd consider it ok at best. They felt cheap, trying to get the plastic sleeves over the banana plugs made the sheathing and cables move around a lot and I felt like I was going to break something. I'm happy for what i have invested, but if i'd spent $300 + on them i'd be disappointed to say the least.
    I know it takes around 200 hours for break in, but I couldn't help myself and instantly set down and started listening. I was running Canare star quad S11 in a biwired configuration. I took the left over Canare wire and made jumpers, since I didn't want to go back to the stock ones. Initial impressions are that these are a nice sonic improvement over my last cables.
    They seem smoother in the highs and mids, and added more detail. I noticed more detail in the midrange than anywhere else, and that was the first thing I noticed when I sat down. I'm by no means an audiophile nor do I have golden ears, but I know my music and can tell the difference. My system just seems a little less edgy and a little more neutral than it was before.
    When I got my Signal Cable interconnects, as well as my Power cable I noticed the same thing in the highs and mids, and I wonder how much of my results have to do with overall better synergy. I can say this though, when I got my Rti8's I wasn't happy with them at all. They seemed bright and lacking bass, and after many different receivers, an amp, 3 pairs of interconnects, 3 power cables, and 4 sets of speaker cables i've got the sound i'm looking for. I can enjoy the detail they produce and listen to music on them quite often, and I always referred to them as a non musical speaker.
    Overall i'm very happy with the speaker cables and can't wait for them to break in, thanks again for the heads up Keiko. Hope everyone else is enjoying theirs too!
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2011
    B Run wrote: »
    Got mine in and all hooked up.

    Good to hear that you got them and have them hooked up. On a scale of 1 to 10 where do you rate your initial impression for sound?
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  • jmwest1970
    jmwest1970 Posts: 846
    edited April 2011
    B Run wrote: »
    Got mine in and all hooked up. The first thing I noticed was the quality when unpacking them. I wasn't blown away and i'd consider it ok at best. They felt cheap, trying to get the plastic sleeves over the banana plugs made the sheathing and cables move around a lot and I felt like I was going to break something.

    I also received mine yesterday evening. However, I like the look and feel of the cables. To me they feel like a quality cable. They're not Shotguns, Magnums, or Oracles so they won't have that feel. I also was concerned when placing the boots over the banana connectors, but using a slow, steady pull I was able to get them on without any damage. I put them in the system and turned put in a Robert Cray CD to let them burn in. I didn't really listen, but I did notice a wider soundstage than my previous cables. We'll see in a week or so how they really hold up.

    Btw, does anyone know where I can get screw on spades to replace the bananas at the speaker end? I sent an email to MIT when I ordered, but haven't heard anything.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited April 2011
    jmwest1970 wrote: »
    I also received mine yesterday evening. However, I like the look and feel of the cables. To me they feel like a quality cable. They're not Shotguns, Magnums, or Oracles so they won't have that feel. I also was concerned when placing the boots over the banana connectors, but using a slow, steady pull I was able to get them on without any damage. I put them in the system and turned put in a Robert Cray CD to let them burn in. I didn't really listen, but I did notice a wider soundstage than my previous cables. We'll see in a week or so how they really hold up.

    Btw, does anyone know where I can get screw on spades to replace the bananas at the speaker end? I sent an email to MIT when I ordered, but haven't heard anything.

    I too considered the spades but they cost $30 dollars . Calculate that to outfit a pair of $50 cables
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,199
    edited April 2011
    jmwest1970 wrote: »

    Btw, does anyone know where I can get screw on spades to replace the bananas at the speaker end? I sent an email to MIT when I ordered, but haven't heard anything.

    Audionerd USA sells them. I've bought from him before and he is very reliable and many times he ships same day.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/MIT-Iconn-Regular-Spades-set-4-speaker-cables-/300369374790?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45ef68ee46

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,199
    edited April 2011
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    I too considered the spades but they cost $30 dollars . Calculate that to outfit a pair of $50 cables

    $29/4 which since you need 8 is $60 if you want to do all ends in spades.

    IIRC, if you buy direct from MIT they charge shipping.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • jmwest1970
    jmwest1970 Posts: 846
    edited April 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    $29/4 which since you need 8 is $60 if you want to do all ends in spades.

    IIRC, if you buy direct from MIT they charge shipping.

    I only plan on changing out the speaker end for spades. I don't think $30ish is bad. That's still less than $100 for a $200 set of cables.
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    I'm just curious, but what benefit do spades offer vs banana? Only thing I can imagine is that maybe the tension on the bananas might diminish over time. I've never used anything but bare wire, so banana was just a lot more convenient.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited April 2011
    listening to mine right now in the office rig. I have to say they sound really nice, and I am just streaming pandora one through a cheap little creative usb dac. Very detailed and airy, and the upper bass/mid-bass definitely is tighter. Definitely worth the money; can't wait to try them out at home!
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited April 2011
    I've had mine running for 24 hours straight and they're opening up nicely from how they sounded out of the box. Same overall impression/improvement they just sound a little more open, still got a long time before they're truly "burned in" but i'm very satisfied with the way they sound right now.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited April 2011
    cokewithvanilla wrote: »
    I'm just curious, but what benefit do spades offer vs banana? Only thing I can imagine is that maybe the tension on the bananas might diminish over time. I've never used anything but bare wire, so banana was just a lot more convenient.

    Spades offer no sonic improvements but some like to just have them for having bookshelfs near the wall or they might prolong the life of the cables by taking some of the tension off the wire when its upspended by the banana connection

    I still dont really want to offer any opinion on how my cables are sounding compared to my monoprice :biggrin:
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,454
    edited April 2011
    As I suspected, I see no difference in my HT rig using these cables over the Canare 4s11, but I do see a major improvement in my two channel setup. I will definately be looking at cables as I improve my two channel rig.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited April 2011
    cokewithvanilla wrote: »
    I'm just curious, but what benefit do spades offer vs banana? Only thing I can imagine is that maybe the tension on the bananas might diminish over time. I've never used anything but bare wire, so banana was just a lot more convenient.

    The benefit as I see it is, the cables don't have to exit the amp or speakers in a straight line but can make an immediate 90degree turn downwards or sideways and there isn't the leverage on the binding posts that bananas w/heavy cable can exert. I have seen angled bananas but they weren't very high quality, IIRC.
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  • jmwest1970
    jmwest1970 Posts: 846
    edited April 2011
    cokewithvanilla wrote: »
    I'm just curious, but what benefit do spades offer vs banana? Only thing I can imagine is that maybe the tension on the bananas might diminish over time. I've never used anything but bare wire, so banana was just a lot more convenient.

    In my case it makes adding jumpers to my speakers much easier. I can connect the cable from the amp to the binding post and them use a jumper with bananas to connect the two sets of binding posts. The sonic improvement isn't with the spades, but using a quality jumper cable versus the stock jumpers that came with the speakers.
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