Japan shook with 8.8 Quake and Hit By Tsunami

xj4094dg

Nuclear installation is now in some kind of trouble. Not good.

Danny Tse

Several boats have been sunk and docks have been washed out to the harbor in Santa Cruz, California. Similar situation up north in Crescent City, CA.

megasat16

It is terrible. Tsunami causing major damage in Japan and one oil refinery in massive fire.

I hope the Nuke Power Plants there don't go out of control for the worst.

Sherard, it's good to know you are unharmed bro!

Mike, you and your family hang tight and life vest on the ready!

janmike

I cannot imagine living in a area like that. And people complain in N. America.

Thoughts and prayers to all.

Zeros

Now they are saying a 6.6 earthquake just hit Nagano, Japan. Unbelievable!

danger boy

the destruction and tsunami damage is incredible... just stunned by what i've seen.

Danny Tse

Can't compared to the devastation in Japan....

From Santa Cruz....



From Crescent City, CA....

Midnite Mick

Just read of this. Does anyone know where I can get more information on this. I don't have cnn.

bobman1235

Midnite Mick wrote: »

Just read of this. Does anyone know where I can get more information on this. I don't have cnn.

How about any news outlet anywhere?

Zeros

Midnite Mick wrote: »

Just read of this. Does anyone know where I can get more information on this. I don't have cnn.

Try this link for CNN's live blog:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/11/live-blog-japan-earthquake/?hpt=T1

mrbigbluelight

Heard that they are considering reclassifying this quake as a "9.1 Magnitude" quake.

Another tidbit, from the USGS, is that quakes aren't referred to anymore as they were back in the day, ie, "9.1 on the Richter Scale" but, rather, simply as "9.1 Magnitude".

At first, I thought, "Okay, big deal. Kind of like Roentgens were then called RADS then REMS .... " etc.
A horse by any name is still a horse.

Except ...... a "9.1 Magnitude" quake (new naming system) would have been classified as a "9.6 on the Richter scale" quake under the 'old' system.

There's a " 0.5 " difference. Good to know when comparing historical quakes.

megasat16

This is just in. Dam, the Japanese don't really need another blow more than it already has.

Let's pray the Nuke reactors don't go into meltdown. It'll be real crap for the World Economy.

BREAKING NEWS: Japan says radiation levels surged outside nuclear plant

megasat16

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

Heard that they are considering reclassifying this quake as a "9.1 Magnitude" quake.

Another tidbit, from the USGS, is that quakes aren't referred to anymore as they were back in the day, ie, "9.1 on the Richter Scale" but, rather, simply as "9.1 Magnitude".

At first, I thought, "Okay, big deal. Kind of like Roentgens were then called RADS then REMS .... " etc.
A horse by any name is still a horse.

Except ...... a "9.1 Magnitude" quake (new naming system) would have been classified as a "9.6 on the Richter scale" quake under the 'old' system.

There's a " 0.5 " difference. Good to know when comparing historical quakes.

It was 8.8 when they first announced it. Then, it was raised to 8.9 within minutes. Now, 9.1 might become a reality.

I just hope that we don't get anything like that in the West Coast.

Ron-P

megasat16 wrote: »

I just hope that we don't get anything like that in the West Coast.

I'm sure at some point we will. The earth is the same all the way around. Hell, I live 2 miles from the coast, I'm toast if (or should I say) when we do.

megasat16

Ron-P wrote: »

I'm sure at some point we will. The earth is the same all the way around. Hell, I live 2 miles from the coast, I'm toast if (or should I say) when we do.

Time to move, Ron! I am hearing a really BIG One for us is due for quite sometime. When that happens, we'll laugh off what happened in Northridge before.

I have a feeling we are getting closer to that scenario now than ever.

66chevyIISS

Haven't been on the forums in a long time, but thought I would come on to see if anyone had heard from Sherard. Glad to see you posting buddy. Hope everyone is alright and you're in our thoughts.

Sherardp

7:35am here for me, the biggest thing being reported here now is regarding those Nuke Power plants. Most of them shutdown automatically, however they are saying there is one that did not. No outside leaks as of yet, but who really knows at this point.

ryanjoachim

megasat16 wrote: »

Time to move, Ron! I am hearing a really BIG One for us is due for quite sometime. When that happens, we'll laugh off what happened in Northridge before.

I have a feeling we are getting closer to that scenario now than ever.

When the big one hits the West Coast, we'll lose California, and it'll become the next Hawaii. Add volcanoes being triggered by the quake, landslides, sink-holes, etc...it'll be a fun time to live!

Especially since I live in a valley.

Erik Tracy

Check out this link from the US Geo Survey website:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php

It ain't just one quake...holy **** - they are rocking all day long! :eek:

Sherardp

Erik Tracy wrote: »

Check out this link from the US Geo Survey website:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php

It ain't just one quake...holy **** - they are rocking all day long! :eek:

Yep which is the scary part. I have friends who were texting " still shaking" even after the larger quake had hit. Scary out here.

Erik Tracy

Sherardp wrote: »

Yep which is the scary part. I have friends who were texting " still shaking" even after the larger quake had hit. Scary out here.

Lots of those 'aftershocks' are pretty darn big! :eek:

Fireman32

Sherardp wrote: »

7:35am here for me, the biggest thing being reported here now is regarding those Nuke Power plants. Most of them shutdown automatically, however they are saying there is one that did not. No outside leaks as of yet, but who really knows at this point.

Are you safe where you are? Where are you compared to the epicenter? I cant believe the video I am seeing. Anyone hear from Mike?

Ron-P

megasat16 wrote: »

Time to move, Ron! I am hearing a really BIG One for us is due for quite sometime. When that happens, we'll laugh off what happened in Northridge before.

I have a feeling we are getting closer to that scenario now than ever.

Move? HA! No way, not going to run in fear. Something, somewhere will get all of us. Nothing you can do against the power of the mother.

mrbigbluelight

Good to hear you're pluggin' and chuggin' . Stay safe.

When I first heard of the quake in Japan last night, and the resulting tsunami that would reach at least to Hawaii, I got to thinking of a documentary on TV from a few years back.

This documentary described a cliff, of sorts, in Hawaii. Can't remember the dimensions, but it was big, REAL big: 200 feet tall, 10 miles long and bordered the ocean.
So far, so good.
But a can't-remember distance back inland, there is a fault line; it was a distance something like 1 or 2 miles back (?).
The documentary discussed this fault line, its origins (ancient extinct volcano flow tubes). The explorers went very deep into the caves deep within this fault line. They discovered that the ancient volcanic tubes actually cut through a lot of the solid ground above so that this huge cliff structure was basically hanging by a thread, geologically speaking.
Subsequent review of data indicated that when (not if) there was a cliff collapse, the entire cliff would go into the ocean as one solid mass.
And therein lies the problem. This is a HUGE mass
HUGE MASS that dwarfs the lava bench collapses that occur down your way every so often.
Dwarf even the 44 ACRE lava bench collapses such as occurred off of Kilaeau back in 2005.
Dwarf it !

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2006/12/18/news/story07.html

Documentary showed computer simulations of what the resulting tsunami waves would look like when they reached the mainland west coast: 100 foot waves, from California to Oregon. Or LARGER.

Do you know what I'm talking about Mike ?
(boy, there's a loaded question ..... )
I can't remember the documentary (PBS; Discovery; ?) or the name of the cliff structure.

Erik Tracy

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

Good to hear you're pluggin' and chuggin' . Stay safe.

When I first heard of the quake in Japan last night, and the resulting tsunami that would reach at least to Hawaii, I got to thinking of a documentary on TV from a few years back.

This documentary described a cliff, of sorts, in Hawaii. Can't remember the dimensions, but it was big, REAL big: 200 feet tall, 10 miles long and bordered the ocean.
So far, so good.
But a can't-remember distance back inland, there is a fault line; it was a distance something like 1 or 2 miles back (?).
The documentary discussed this fault line, its origins (ancient extinct volcano flow tubes). The explorers went very deep into the caves deep within this fault line. They discovered that the ancient volcanic tubes actually cut through a lot of the solid ground above so that this huge cliff structure was basically hanging by a thread, geologically speaking.
Subsequent review of data indicated that when (not if) there was a cliff collapse, the entire cliff would go into the ocean as one solid mass.
And therein lies the problem. This is a HUGE mass
HUGE MASS that dwarfs the lava bench collapses that occur down your way every so often.
Dwarf even the 44 ACRE lava bench collapses such as occurred off of Kilaeau back in 2005.
Dwarf it !

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2006/12/18/news/story07.html

Documentary showed computer simulations of what the resulting tsunami waves would look like when they reached the mainland west coast: 100 foot waves, from California to Oregon. Or LARGER.

Do you know what I'm talking about Mike ?
(boy, there's a loaded question ..... )
I can't remember the documentary (PBS; Discovery; ?) or the name of the cliff structure.

That was in the past.

Cumbre Vieja on La Palma in the Canary Islands is the one that is in danger of letting go *today* - the US East Coast will be a gonner if that happens - no running from that one.

inspiredsports

This is so disturbing on so many levels.

Japan is thought to be devasted to the point that world oil markets devalued oil even in the face of the Saudi "Day of Rage" thinking Japan's 5,000,000 barrel per day thirst may be halved.

I remember watching frightening Godzilla movies when I was young that now seem tame in comparison to what this earthquake did.

If they vent their damaged reactor into the atmosphere (now at 1,000 times the normal radiation inside the containment chamber and 1.5 times the normal internal pressure) they say the fallout will travel and blanket the US. One report said this is happening because they need to be able to run the cooling pumps for 24 hours, but only have battery capability for 8 hours?

If it goes into a complete meltdown, what then?

We promise "whatever it takes" in aid, and China just a "good drive and a nine iron away" remains mute. Where will the money for rebuilding come from over the 10 year timeframe they are already predicting it will take.

I wonder if there was ever a time in history when so many things were out of whack all at the same time like this.

TrashyTrucker

dkg999 wrote: »

My thoughts and prayers are with any Polkies that are impacted with this, and for the people in the regions where the disaster occured. The pictures are just unbelievable.

I have a son stationed in Okinawa Japan. He is alright, its already saturdaymorning there and they are to be deployed inland as I type this.

Outfitter03

Sherardp wrote: »

7:35am here for me, the biggest thing being reported here now is regarding those Nuke Power plants. Most of them shutdown automatically, however they are saying there is one that did not. No outside leaks as of yet, but who really knows at this point.

The plant is shutdown but is still producing heat. With the fission process the broken up atoms continue through radioactive decay until they reach a stable isotope. Most power generating reactors run at fairly high power outputs say around 80-90% of capacity. The decay heat following shudown can easily be 7% of the critical reactors pre-shutdown output. Following the shutdown if there is power to run the cooling pumps and keep drawing heat out of the fuel things will stabilize out in a couple of days. I would believe they made provisions for this, but the engineers most likely didn't build the facility for a 9.0 earthquake as this is much larger than was expected to ever be seen in this area. This is why they are bringing in generators to get power to these pumps.

9.0 is about the size of the quake seismologists are expecting if the Cascadia Fault ever goes running under the ocean off of the coast of Washington, Oregon and Northern California. The subduction fault that created the Cascade range and all those cool volcanoes: Ranier, Adams, Baker, St. Helens, Hood and Shasta.

bobman1235

Ron-P wrote: »

The earth is the same all the way around.

Uhh, not quite.

Tony M

I'm glad your ok sheardrop and hope you,Mike, are still ok.

Thoughts and prayers going your way from here.