Led Zeppelin Box Set 50% off

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Why not, don't you know specs mean everything. :wink:
    So now there's no difference between comparing and quantifying? :biggrin:

    BTW, Jesse, I cancelled your order... :tongue:
    More later,
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,511
    edited January 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Based on the readings at the Steve Hoffman forum, it's as clear as mud. Hopefully today I'll get some listening time in.

    H9

    +1!

    In regards to measuring, I think it is good if we can equate it to our listening experience and apply it to our future gear choices. For instance, I had some tube and SS gear tested for distortion. Not just total, but at what frequency and what amount and what kind of distortion. While it opened my eyes to what I like and don't, someone that doesn't or won't try and understand what second order distortion does would look at the graph and dismiss/bash gear based on that. It's no wonder manufacturers don't or won't provide that kind of detailed info to the public.

    Not a new concept of course. Older audio folks will recall the measurement versus listening debates that occurred while we were growing up (or just getting older:biggrin:).
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited January 2011
    Listening to LZ I on the office rig. Not bad at all, actually sounds pretty good. Still too early to tell for sure. I'll pull out the original and then the typical remaster and see if I can hear any differences...........well I'm sure I will between the 80's original and this.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited January 2011
    I have to say the original release of LZ I sounds mighty fine, mighty fine. Less digital for sure than this box set remaster. But it doesn't have the space around the instruments or vocals. But it's not as "crunchy" sounding up top as the remaster. Glad I hung on to the original releases from the 80's in addition to having this boxset


    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited January 2011
    I have to say the original LZ I is a more enjoyable listen than the remaster. Now if you only had the remaster I think you would be happy, but after listening to the original cd, it's a lot more analog sounding.

    The cymbals "shimmer" rather than "crunch"

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2011
    The boxset sounds good. I really think they are the same masters/pressings as the Atlantic Japan CD's. It's LZ, so higher-fidelity isn't in my set of expectations. I do have a couple of the early 80's radio station kits with all the LZ CD's distributed to radio stations at the start of the LP to CD transition. I've never opened them so not sure if those are the origninal masters or not.
    DKG999
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited January 2011
    Mine finally arrived today. I couldn't get it out of the shipping carton even after opening the bottom to try and push it out. I ended up pulling the carton open at the side seam. I found that both top, back corners, which would be on the bottom in the carton, have the black coating peeled off and of course the plastic is ripped, which indicates that someone jammed it into the shipping carton. I found the black pieces of the coating inside the carton. I sent Rhino an email, so we'll see what they do. Right now, I'm extremely unhappy.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2011
    Mine was packed pretty tightly also. I turned it upside down and shook it and it kind of slowly slid out. I would guess that Rhino will send you a new box.
    DKG999
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited January 2011
    Yeah, they don't need to send another box set, I would be happy with a new outer box.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2011
    LZ 3 from the boxset seems to match exactly to "Led Zeppelin III AMCY-2433 Atlantic ~ east west japan 97-11-5.log" when using the bit comparison software after I ripped it to the server. It didn't match to whatever stat file and master dbpoweramp thought it should use for comparison.
    DKG999
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,220
    edited January 2011
    Got mine today and it was packed very tightly also. Luckily no damage to the box set. I'm very excited to listen to these as most of my LZ experience is from the 4 disc box set and the Led Zeppelin DVD. I know all the songs but have never actually listened to any albums except IV and In Through the Out Door.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited January 2011
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    I know all the songs but have never actually listened to any albums except IV and In Through the Out Door.

    Have fun listening to the albums in their entirety, should be a new high! :) Especially if you start at LZ 1 and continue the journey through to the end! Happy listening!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited January 2011
    Mine came in a larger box with some stuffing and one of those air packs. Not jammed into anything to tight. You'd think with the size of operation Rhino runs and because they are mail order they would have some shipping consistency.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited January 2011
    Without any hassle Rhino is sending me a new outer box. I am quite pleased with their customer service.
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited January 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Without any hassle Rhino is sending me a new outer box. I am quite pleased with their customer service.

    Good to know, and glad they handled it that way for you.

    I'm stil waiting for mine!
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited January 2011
    Sure, I finally go to buy it and it won't add anything to my cart... awesome
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  • Joe Humbert
    Joe Humbert Posts: 189
    edited January 2011
    grimmace19 wrote: »
    Sure, I finally go to buy it and it won't add anything to my cart... awesome

    I had to add mine twice to get it to work. Just ordered, thanks for the heads up Jesse.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2011
    Odd that they'd have just a box setting around. Maybe some employee just got a free collection minus the box.

    Glad they took care of it...

    GBRR...
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited February 2011
    grimmace19 wrote: »
    Sure, I finally go to buy it and it won't add anything to my cart... awesome

    I tried to place an order last week but the website wouldn't recognize my address. Finally called the next day and the rep was extremely helpful. He wasn't able to manually place the order because this boxed set is a code/link referral offer, but continued helping me until we figured out the city/zip on their database was referenced incorrectly. Made a change and the order went through. It's worth calling...their CS is very helpful, but he said the only way to get the offer is through the website.

    Now, just waiting for the boxed set to arrive.
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited February 2011
    reported. Nice links, though.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited February 2011
    Just wanted to give a shout out to Rhino for their excellent customer service. I got my outer box yesterday, all nice and damage free. Yay! Stuff!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,535
    edited February 2011
    Ordered mine on Sunday last weekend and got it on my doorstep on Thursday, regular free shipping.

    Thanks for the heads up!
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited February 2011
    Ordered LATE tuesday night and it was in my mailbox today! Very cool package
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited February 2011
    I ordered on the 27th (9 days ago) and still waiting.....
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  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited February 2011
    anybody care to give opinions on the set.
    How does it sound?
    Same old remasters?
    Thanks Glen
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited February 2011
    Big Dawg wrote: »
    I ordered on the 27th (9 days ago) and still waiting.....

    I ordered January 14, 2011 an still waiting. Someone at the border is probably rockingout to my box set! :)
    I emailed them, and am waiting for a response. If I don't hear from them by Tuesday, I will call them.
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  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited February 2011
    Ordered mine on Fri, 28 Jan, and received it today. Thoroughly impressed w/the packaging/reproduction quality. This set is way cool! Takes me back to high school and hanging out in my best friend's basement, thumbing through the albums. I'm listening to the first CD, track 9-How Many More Times, and the SQ is very good.

    If you're on the fence w/respect to purchasing, IMHO, it's worth every penny of $87, + free shipping to boot (USPS).
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited February 2011
    JayCee wrote: »
    Ordered mine on Fri, 28 Jan, and received it today. Thoroughly impressed w/the packaging/reproduction quality. This set is way cool! Takes me back to high school and hanging out in my best friend's basement, thumbing through the albums. I'm listening to the first CD, track 9-How Many More Times, and the SQ is very good.

    If you're on the fence w/respect to purchasing, IMHO, it's worth every penny of $87, + free shipping to boot (USPS).

    Could not agree more! Nice box set for sure.

    Mine arrived in the mail today, packed very well in bigger box with bubble wrap around it..
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,729
    edited February 2011
    The first thing that anyone who purchased this box set needs to do is order replacement "**** bags". The original ones are terrible....the glue on the strip is too strong and the plastic is too thin causing the damn things to rip.

    Wes at www.soundsourcecds.com sells high quality replacements, actually made in Japan.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • Libertyc
    Libertyc Posts: 915
    edited February 2011
    Is this basically the same as the LZ Complete Studio Recordings Box Set?

    Thanks
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