Id like to modify your crossovers...

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    You can say I am talking it up or whatever - but proof is in the pudding and alot of people agree with me.

    Ty's speakers with the combination of these mods

    Tweeter network - Clarity MR
    Woofer Network - Clarity SA
    Good resistors

    No-Rez lined enclosure

    Diffraction-be-gone

    Competes in the $20,000+ range.

    And I whole heartedly agree based on speakers I have heard at that point and beyond. The drivers that Ty used in these speakers are used in speakers that cost far far far*** more.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited March 2011
    I read in a few places that the Tannoy Kingdom Royal uses Clarity MR's.
    http://www.tannoy.com/ResidentialSummary.aspx#&&LHkRVuk+ATR0sDiRzNthjzhL5SAM2rb0m+/yYtvzqq20rBUrUuDT7tJp/rlpChmZ24WlGb5geJwLCUMS7I6Ah/V9wrcaaqLjHOB98B1hWXKkX5Zh9Tlybnitd3qVQ9USr9al6rLVWTBW7x5Jmqh0otHK4hQ4zINE1kE76792E9t/XgwgfZy9deDKEym/FLlAOkwmSQ==
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    Yeah.... those look expensive! LOL
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited March 2011
    Im definately interested, but I would have to wait till the funds will allow the upgrade. I just purchased new audio art interconnects and a ps audio dac.
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    Halfway thru with one 7U--I'll quit posting here and start a new thread,,sheesh those Clarity's are huge.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    edited March 2011
    bopicasso wrote: »
    The thing is.. I spent 1k on the speakers. Would the 800 dollar investment really be worth it???
    From what I heard with the difference in Treys Super Towers I can say with 100% certainty, yes. My God, yes. Had I done this when I had the 7U's myself, I probably wouldn't have upgraded to the Linbrooks.

    I'll be doing the same thing to the Linbrooks here shortly as well and my ears are looking very forward to it.

    George...you are in for one hell of a treat, my friend.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    Tom - I am almost certain if I had upgraded my 7u they would still be here.

    Wait till you hear the Taylo References that are here -- they are way different than the super towers, but judging from the imaging on the left side - dare I say they image better than the Super Towers??
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited March 2011
    My 7u's have the revelator tweeter. Would that make a difference in what you recommend for my crossovers?
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    Nope - I am modifying a set of Taylos right now with those components!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    now I see why you went with outboard crossovers
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    Yeah those MR are like redbull cans
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    a quick pic of the tweeter board in the 7U,,gonna clean /snip the connections a tad and install the other board.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited March 2011
    What is the best site to purchase from? I plan to do this myself eventually. I have some old sony towers that are 15 years old. I plan to use them as my guinea pig. Im going to replace a few things on them and see how it goes. If it goes well then I will upgrade the 7u's. Whats a cheap upgrade for the sonys? I dont use them, they came with a all in one stereo. I wouldnt mind making them worth having. But as they are now, old and beat up, they sound terrible in comparison to what im use to.
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    I got the clarity's from Madisound,,the Mills from Sonicap if you are just gonna' learn/upgrade/solder etc,, try some Dayton's or something along that line. The only other advice would be to take your time as you go--which is exactly what I'm doing with the Tylers--I'll start a thread when I'm done and satisfied with the results--have fun and most of all--enjoy. :smile:
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited March 2011
    So what is the sizes that I would need for the 7u's?
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    6.0uf tweeter
    4.0fF--
    2 @ 22uf
    2@ 4 ohm resistors
    1-12ohm

    each speaker
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    Just wanted to say that you need to check your speakers before ordering parts. Ty's speakers vary over time and they are not always the same.

    Just a FWIW.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Just wanted to say that you need to check your speakers before ordering parts. Ty's speakers vary over time and they are not always the same.

    Just a FWIW.

    Very good point--very sound advice.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    George spill it!

    I am really digging the differences with mine! Immense depth would be an understatement on the left side. Gotta get with it and do the right side!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited March 2011
    Yes George! Please do tell..
    Im also dying from the suspense. I want to hear how everything went and of course how they sound!!!!!!!!!
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    edited March 2011
    *clears throat*
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    what does that mean Tom?-:tongue:-- guys I just received the last caps today-- gonna pop em' in,,so giimme a day----I went with claritys--I'll post some pic's in a minute.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    Okay-- pics of my new tubes followed by the 7U crossovers--hopefullt this will hold you guys til I get em' back in--the cabinets have been damped too--if I have done this correctly,these things should sound stellar--we shall see,gents,,we shall see. :smile:
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    edited March 2011
    Take your time G-. I'm just razzin' ya'. :wink:
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    Interesting!!

    Ty used 25 watt resistors in two of the places on your boards in my monitors. WEIRD!

    Interesting and weird indeed!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • truwarrior22
    truwarrior22 Posts: 18
    edited March 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3,

    Have you worked on any BP7000SC's crossovers or CLR3000's? I'm interested in what you can do with them. The speakers sound a little thin probably like how your Studio Monitor might have sounded...?

    Thanks!

    Jack
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    I would no issues with your crossovers.

    I would be happy to work on them!

    There is MUCH* potential there!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • truwarrior22
    truwarrior22 Posts: 18
    edited March 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I would no issues with your crossovers.

    I would be happy to work on them!

    There is MUCH* potential there!

    Cool, I have some pictures of the crossover. The speakers are bipolar, so I would imagine it might be a little more complicated. Can I email you the pics and get a recommendation? If so, can you please provide your email?

    Basically I'm looking for a very "transparent", but with some weight to the sound. Nothing to laid back or overly live sounding. I'm finding the sound to be a little thin before the builtin powered subwoofers take over.

    Apperently I can't PM unless I post atleast 10 post lol, I might be able to reply if you PM me though...

    Thanks!

    Jack
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,748
    edited March 2011
    Actually it is still pretty simple I have modified a few bipolar speaker (BP30, etc) - they are just two way speakers.

    vr3mxdmicblce2k7 @ gmail dot com

    I would go with Auricap, Dayton and Mills on yours -- I like the combo.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Interesting!!

    Ty used 25 watt resistors in two of the places on your boards in my monitors. WEIRD!

    Interesting and weird indeed!

    Yep--all the resistors in my original boards were 10 watt Eagle's,,I replaced them will Mills 12 watters,,I was able to get exact values for the caps except two,,I'm using a 3.9 instead of a 4uF and a 6.2 insted of a 6uf--I think I'll be ok--but I'll know in a day or so.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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