Carver amps - can someone explain this?

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,171
    edited January 2011
    Bruce (Tour2ma) you wanted the link to my quote, here it is:

    Actually, a very interesting read about how SS designs progressed and some brief discussion about the different topologies.

    http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0701/volksamp.htm

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    Thank you, sir.... I do appreciate.

    Anything I can use to budge the immovable object known as F1nut?
    More later,
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited January 2011
    Tour2ma wrote: »
    Anything I can use to budge the immovable object known as F1nut?

    LOL.....

    Thing is Bruce, I've tried both types and actually own both types.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited January 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    LOL.....

    Thing is Bruce, I've tried both types and actually own both types.

    Yes folks you heard it here F1 goes both ways.





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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited January 2011
    You're a riot, Alice.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited January 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    You're a riot, Alice.


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  • Timothy Smith
    Timothy Smith Posts: 764
    edited January 2011
    I'm telling Mom.
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  • nonobaddog
    nonobaddog Posts: 10
    edited March 2013
    Hi, I know this is an old thread but I just stumbled on it and maybe someone will see this. The OP asked about why so many people used old Carver amps with SDA speakers. Instead of why, I am wondering how? One time, years ago, I blissfully and ignorantly hooked up a Carver M400 (no 'a', no 't') to my SDA CRS speakers. When I turned it on it let out a very loud screaming howl. This was a sound that should never come from an audio system. It damaged my speakers. I found out later that the Carver is not a common ground amp and is basically incompatible with SDA speakers. So unless you intentionally don't use the umbilical cord that connects the left and right channels (then what's the point of using SDA speakers at all) how do you use this Carver/SDA combination? I know I have certainly avoided it ever since that incident.
  • trav0810
    trav0810 Posts: 1,056
    edited March 2013
    Some Carver Amps ARE common ground. I have a pair of M1.0t's bi-amping my SDA 2.3TL's right now!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited March 2013
    nonobaddog wrote: »
    Hi, I know this is an old thread but I just stumbled on it and maybe someone will see this. The OP asked about why so many people used old Carver amps with SDA speakers. Instead of why, I am wondering how? One time, years ago, I blissfully and ignorantly hooked up a Carver M400 (no 'a', no 't') to my SDA CRS speakers. When I turned it on it let out a very loud screaming howl. This was a sound that should never come from an audio system. It damaged my speakers. I found out later that the Carver is not a common ground amp and is basically incompatible with SDA speakers. So unless you intentionally don't use the umbilical cord that connects the left and right channels (then what's the point of using SDA speakers at all) how do you use this Carver/SDA combination? I know I have certainly avoided it ever since that incident.

    If your SDA's use the pin/blade cable, then you can use the AI-1 that allows any non-common ground amp to be used.
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