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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited August 2010
    shack wrote: »
    Absolutely! One of the sweetest rigs for a small room I've ever heard was a C320BEE driving a pair of LSi9s. That integrated should have no problems driving the small LSiMs.

    Yesss! There is hope for me lol. My C320BEE will be the last piece I upgrade; they drive my current LSi's just fine so I imagine the new LSi's shouldn't be much of an issue.
    - Jeremy

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,472
    edited August 2010
    Doro... PM sent.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited August 2010
    Wow. The thread has slowed down.

    Any idea what is the warrenty? Not that anything would happen, but new products sometimes have glitches.

    I really want to pre-order, but I also really want rosewood colored LSiM 707 speakers. I can live with cherry if that is it. I have 4 LSi15s in cherry (two versions of "cherry"), but it would be nice if there was an exchange credit, at least for the first year, that if someone pre-ordered cherry, and rosewood later became available, there was a trade-in allowance.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,798
    edited August 2010
    They will probably never offer Rosewood...

    Rosewood for my spkrs was an additional 4-600 dollars and while my speakers are taller the LSim are deeper....
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited August 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    They will probably never offer Rosewood...

    Rosewood for my spkrs was an additional 4-600 dollars and while my speakers are taller the LSim are deeper....

    How about mahogany?
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited August 2010
    Just listened to Dave Brubeck, and really want to know how the the new LSi's portray this great recording. There is a small hifi shop I visit every once in a while that sells the current LSi line; I hope Polk sends them the new one so I can listen!
    - Jeremy

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Wow. The thread has slowed down.

    Any idea what is the warrenty? Not that anything would happen, but new products sometimes have glitches.

    Probably something along the lines of what the warranty has been for the past 15+ years.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/support/warranty-returns.php
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited August 2010
    Mark, any insights into the LSiM numbering scheme? 707 and 703?
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    No but I'll ask.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited August 2010
    I want to see Mark in the chaps next to the new flagship LSiM. Something I would cherish forever.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited August 2010
    lightman1 wrote: »
    i want to see mark in the chaps next to the new flagship lsim. Something i would cherish forever.
    dorokusai wrote: »
    i'll ask.
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  • unbridled_id
    unbridled_id Posts: 179
    edited August 2010
    $2200 msrp for the bookshelf model.. I don't know how good they will sound, but at that price I don't see them moving quantity (which I assume they understand). Like the fact that they are a three way design. I would like to see how they compare to speakers that cost less say the PSB imagine B and Synchrony B and even a speaker at 1/3 the price the NHT classic 3.
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  • HHStuart
    HHStuart Posts: 263
    edited August 2010
    Didn't I read that Polk is also bringing out new sub woofers? When are they coming out? Any details on them?
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  • djlogix
    djlogix Posts: 115
    edited August 2010
    HHStuart wrote: »
    Didn't I read that Polk is also bringing out new sub woofers? When are they coming out? Any details on them?

    I hope not, I still have a few weeks to go before I can get my 4000's, new subs would kill me.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    unbridled_id wrote: »
    $2200 msrp for the bookshelf model.. I don't know how good they will sound, but at that price I don't see them moving quantity (which I assume they understand). Like the fact that they are a three way design. I would like to see how they compare to speakers that cost less say the PSB imagine B and Synchrony B and even a speaker at 1/3 the price the NHT classic 3.

    The Synchrony and Imagine series are marginal sounding loudspeakers. I can't recall which model has the removeable baseplate but having heard both and the fact they hit at totally different price brackets doesn't make a ton of sense to me in regards to a comparison with the LSiM. No contest from my experience but everyone is different. NHT is a much better starter choice for A/B.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    HHStuart wrote: »
    Didn't I read that Polk is also bringing out new sub woofers? When are they coming out? Any details on them?

    All the new subwoofers have been out for a year+. The newest subwoofer goody is a wireless dongle so that you may use it free of wires and expand your placement options.
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  • unbridled_id
    unbridled_id Posts: 179
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    The Synchrony and Imagine series are marginal sounding loudspeakers. I can't recall which model has the removeable baseplate but having heard both and the fact they hit at totally different price brackets doesn't make a ton of sense to me in regards to a comparison with the LSiM. No contest from my experience but everyone is different. NHT is a much better starter choice for A/B.

    Don't have any experience with PSB but just threw them out there. I do have the NHT 3's and put them out there primarily based on their three way design which the new LSI M's employ. Had the LSI 9's and replaced them with the NHT's but have nothing but praise for the 9's. I don't think FRY's and places like it will carry this new line based on it's price point.

    But I do have to say I dig the LSI M bookshelfs, very, very, cool looking.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    The NHT classic series is excellent.
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  • Ric5811
    Ric5811 Posts: 400
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    The NHT classic series is excellent.

    +1 Some of the best sat/subs I ever heard for the money.
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  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited August 2010
    Not sure if its been asked but besides the Blackstone TL2, did they also get a chance to demo the TL1? Just wondering if even this entry-level model is a huge step up from the current RM series or a little too similar to bother upgrading to.

    (reason i ask is i believe its the TL1 series that will be available ahead)

    EDIT: The TL1 series is already posted on the site - http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/tl/
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2010
    From Polk(Engineering):

    "The M signifies a substantial performance upgrade over the current LSI. The analogy I like to use is the difference between the standard BMW 3 and 5 series versus the M3 and M5. The 700 Series came from looking at the turbine like diffuser in the sonic engine which made me think jet engine. The two finishes we are offering are Cherry and what is currently being called Midnight Mahogany (name subject to change). That being said we could look at other finishes providing it was a build to order (call it 3-6mo lead) with a price premium. Needs more study."
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    From Polk(Engineering):

    "The M signifies a substantial performance upgrade over the current LSI. The analogy I like to use is the difference between the standard BMW 3 and 5 series versus the M3 and M5. The 700 Series came from looking at the turbine like diffuser in the sonic engine which made me think jet engine. The two finishes we are offering are Cherry and what is currently being called Midnight Mahogany (name subject to change). That being said we could look at other finishes providing it was a build to order (call it 3-6mo lead) with a price premium. Needs more study."

    I like it! Having the vision of an upgrade from a 525i to a M5 helps. :)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,802
    edited August 2010
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  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    From Polk(Engineering):

    "The M signifies a substantial performance upgrade over the current LSI. The analogy I like to use is the difference between the standard BMW 3 and 5 series versus the M3 and M5. The 700 Series came from looking at the turbine like diffuser in the sonic engine which made me think jet engine. The two finishes we are offering are Cherry and what is currently being called Midnight Mahogany (name subject to change). That being said we could look at other finishes providing it was a build to order (call it 3-6mo lead) with a price premium. Needs more study."

    Fits the BMW theme with the "i" suffix.

    Glad to see these suckers have finally came to life. Its been years (and years... and years...) since the first talks started for an LSi upgrade.
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  • djlogix
    djlogix Posts: 115
    edited August 2010
    Bleh, BMW...

    Performance wise it makes sense, aesthetically... they're far more gorgeous than previous models. Unlike BMW where it constantly gets worse haha ;)
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  • newsman
    newsman Posts: 203
    edited August 2010
    Truth about BMW revisions :)

    I do like the contrast of piano black and cherry on current LSi. The look without grills is not bad either, even with hardware exposed - my g/f once commented on how nice LSi look without grills - very high - tech :)

    I think either mahogany or rosewood finish option would be really nice on speakers in this price range/quality. Rosewood, mahogany, rosemah (in Monitor Audio case) in reality it's just dark cherry color on whatever wood manufacturer decides to use :)
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited August 2010
    Mark or anyone from CS, would be nice if you could provide some intended dates of the new products availability in Canada. As I mentionned, I posted some details of the new products on our Canadian forum and of course some availabity dates would usefull to generate discussion. I has been quiet on the Canadian forum (about 300 views last time I checked but no thread response yet) due to summer. I gues we would be lucky if the product is available in Canada for Xmas season deals (would also be of advantage to Polk). When talking about the TLs, I wonder if Polk is still dealing with future Shop in Canada (I haven't any Polk in store in probably a year or so, but some products are available online). BestBuy Canada doesn't carry Polk products since they can not be in direct competition with FS (sister company, FS is own by BB). I also checked other stores I usally hang around and the same, Polk are not in store but only online.
    Not sure if its been asked but besides the Blackstone TL2, did they also get a chance to demo the TL1? Just wondering if even this entry-level model is a huge step up from the current RM series or a little too similar to bother upgrading to.

    (reason i ask is i believe its the TL1 series that will be available ahead)

    EDIT: The TL1 series is already posted on the site - http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/tl/
    Topper, it depends which RM series you own, the most recents (RM75, 85 & 95) seems to have the same drivers and tweekers (same size & power rating) and efficiency is still 89db. However, the overall response is slightly lower for the RM75, 85 & 95 (95hz) when compared with the new TL1 (120hz).

    http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/rm2008/specs.php

    However, if you were to own the vintage RM10s and RM20s (which I own), the tweeter is slightly bigger along with the mid driver which is 3.5" versus 2.5" (however same type of construction material) :(. Of course, the overall frequency goes down to 80 hz on the vintage RMs versus the 120 hz of the TL1 and the efficiency for the 10s are 125w and 150w for the RM20s :(

    As far as I am concerned, except for the new look and the lense technology on the TL1s, I don't see any advantage to move to the TL1. Unless the TL2s and/or TL3s provide substantial differences in efficiency than my RM10s & RM20s series, I think the TLs are no go for me. The aluminium enclosure is also a big factor with the RM10s and RM20s when compared to plastic enclosures (at least when compared to the RM75, 85, 95s :() However, once they (TL3s) become available in store such as Future Shop (your equivalent of BB), I wouldn't mind to A/B full set of each. IMHO, since Polk has moved away from the RM10s and RM20s to the RM75, 85 & 95, I figure it was a move backward and unfortunately, it doesn't seem Polk has taken the opportunity to move back forward with the TLs (unless of course the TL2 & 3s are different???).

    http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/specs/recent/rm20pack/


    However, for new buyers (don't own any RMs yet) the new TL seires may be an opportunity for them to buy a little more luxury satellite and hopefully with better SQ than the RM75, 85 & 95s???

    Cheers!
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  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited August 2010
    wow those older RMs look pretty good
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,798
    edited August 2010
    With the time alignment of the new TL series alone I would say they would DESTROY the RM series...

    Time alignment is no joke
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited August 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    With the time alignment of the new TL series alone I would say they would DESTROY the RM series...

    Time alignment is no joke
    .....;)....
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