JL Audio F113

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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited February 2011
    I have the Fathom and started with a double single ended input and now only use a single and I didn't notice a difference.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    Ern Dog wrote: »
    I have the Fathom and started with a double single ended input and now only use a single and I didn't notice a difference.

    Have you tried the Balanced input?
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited February 2011
    No, I don't have a balanced rig. Only component that has XLR's is my amp.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    Ern Dog wrote: »
    No, I don't have a balanced rig. Only component that has XLR's is my amp.

    That's a very nice system you have!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited February 2011
    danz1906 wrote: »
    DMara,

    How are the Dual F113 coming along?


    Danz, I had to hold up my Dual F113 musical review until today due to the fact that I sold my Oppo BDP-93 to one of our CP members last week as well as having to wait till last Friday to receive the new Oppo BDP-95 :smile:
    During the last two days, I put the subs through a line up of hi-res music discs via that Oppo BDP-95:
    * Andea Bocelli's Vivere Bluray disc
    * Chris Botti's In Boston Bluray disc
    * Inception soundtrack on the Special Features Bluray disc
    * Porcupine Tree's Anesthetize Bluray disc
    * Porcupine Tree's Stupid Dream DVD-Audio
    * Porcupine Tree's Lightbulb Sun DVD-Audio
    * Diana Krall's The Look of Love DVD-Audio
    * The Carpenters' Singles 1969-1981 SACD

    I got to tell ya, the addition of the dual F113's as well as my decision to move the L-C-R Polk Audio LSi speakers away from the wall about 1 foot more than previously helped opened the soundstage tremendously! Audio output enveloped the entire big room while the center channel accompanying singers' voices was the clearest I've ever experienced, drowning me in a dreamy mode with my mouth opening wider than ever before :biggrin: I enjoyed discovering a huge amount of low frequency notes that I had been missing with my old Polk Audio microPro 4000 sub. Andea Bocelli's Vivere Bluray disc was just top-of-the-line! The most important compliment I reserved for the F113's was: listening to them at high volume did not make my ears feel fatigue at all.
    What could I say more? I love them JL subs more and more everyday, and I still haven't finished testing them :biggrin:

    Addendum on movie testing: beware, these subs really showed the inferiority of some Bluray movies. Today I tested the first two discs of The Alien Anthology: Alien & Aliens. Video quality was fine, but bass output, both mid- and low-bass, got to earn a below average grade. For example, in Alien, when the cargo ship touched down on the little planet, sound of wind howling around it definitely earned an F. The same effect when the little plane carrying the vehicle full of marines got to the infected industrial site in Aliens was a bit better but should not be considered Bluray audio. I know those two movies were quite old, but turning them into Bluray should include better sound quality. For wowing your friends with these F113 babies, guys, you definitely need to play U-573 Bluray disc's scenes in which the Germans' torpedo blew the S33 up, then the U-110's torpedo blew the German sub up, and finally the depth charges from the German destroyer exploding around the U-110. Those are the numero uno bass quality scenes, don't miss them! Another one is the Dark Knight Bluray disc, its bass was DEEP, and I mean DEEP of the deep's! Love it :biggrin:
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
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  • toucanet
    toucanet Posts: 580
    edited February 2011
    DMara,

    Check out the kid's movie "Despicable Me" for nice bass (as well as overall sound). It should amaze you to say the least.

    I'm glad you are enjoying your new additions.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited February 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    For wowing your friends with these F113 babies, guys, you definitely need to play U-573 Bluray disc's scenes in which the Germans' torpedo blew the S33 up, then the U-110's torpedo blew the German sub up, and finally the depth charges from the German destroyer exploding around the U-110.

    I meant U-571 :biggrin:

    toucanet wrote: »
    DMara,

    Check out the kid's movie "Despicable Me" for nice bass (as well as overall sound). It should amaze you to say the least.

    I'm glad you are enjoying your new additions.

    Thanks for letting me know, toucanet. I will try it soon :smile:
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    Danz, I had to hold up my Dual F113 musical review until today due to the fact that I sold my Oppo BDP-93 to one of our CP members last week as well as having to wait till last Friday to receive the new Oppo BDP-95 :smile:
    During the last two days, I put the subs through a line up of hi-res music discs via that Oppo BDP-95:
    * Andea Bocelli's Vivere Bluray disc
    * Chris Botti's In Boston Bluray disc
    * Inception soundtrack on the Special Features Bluray disc
    * Porcupine Tree's Anesthetize Bluray disc
    * Porcupine Tree's Stupid Dream DVD-Audio
    * Porcupine Tree's Lightbulb Sun DVD-Audio
    * Diana Krall's The Look of Love DVD-Audio
    * The Carpenters' Singles 1969-1981 SACD

    I got to tell ya, the addition of the dual F113's as well as my decision to move the L-C-R Polk Audio LSi speakers away from the wall about 1 foot more than previously helped opened the soundstage tremendously! Audio output enveloped the entire big room while the center channel accompanying singers' voices was the clearest I've ever experienced, drowning me in a dreamy mode with my mouth opening wider than ever before :biggrin: I enjoyed discovering a huge amount of low frequency notes that I had been missing with my old Polk Audio microPro 4000 sub. Andea Bocelli's Vivere Bluray disc was just top-of-the-line! The most important compliment I reserved for the F113's was: listening to them at high volume did not make my ears feel fatigue at all.
    What could I say more? I love them JL subs more and more everyday, and I still haven't finished testing them :biggrin:

    Addendum on movie testing: beware, these subs really showed the inferiority of some Bluray movies. Today I tested the first two discs of The Alien Anthology: Alien & Aliens. Video quality was fine, but bass output, both mid- and low-bass, got to earn a below average grade. For example, in Alien, when the cargo ship touched down on the little planet, sound of wind howling around it definitely earned an F. The same effect when the little plane carrying the vehicle full of marines got to the infected industrial site in Aliens was a bit better but should not be considered Bluray audio. I know those two movies were quite old, but turning them into Bluray should include better sound quality. For wowing your friends with these F113 babies, guys, you definitely need to play U-573 Bluray disc's scenes in which the Germans' torpedo blew the S33 up, then the U-110's torpedo blew the German sub up, and finally the depth charges from the German destroyer exploding around the U-110. Those are the numero uno bass quality scenes, don't miss them! Another one is the Dark Knight Bluray disc, its bass was DEEP, and I mean DEEP of the deep's! Love it :biggrin:

    The JL F113's are the Real Deal, now you know what I was talking about.
    On the Depth Charge scenes in U-571 the F113 is a Bass Monster:biggrin:

    Congrats!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    toucanet wrote: »
    I saw (on another forum) sub stands for JL Audio subs.

    How much of a difference in sound can be realized with stands?

    Are you talking about the AURALEX - SUBDUDE SUBWOOFER PLATFORM

    http://www.musicdirect.com/product/81147
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited February 2011
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Are you talking about the AURALEX - SUBDUDE SUBWOOFER PLATFORM

    http://www.musicdirect.com/product/81147


    I used one of those Auralex Subdude HD's for my old 55lbs Polk Audio microPro 4000: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4134388186_938a992727_o.jpg
    It would be OK for lightweight subs such as the microPro. However I don't know if its foam legs could stay strong for long to carry the JL Audio Fathom F113's 130lb weight even though its specs showed it can hold up to 200 lbs.
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited February 2011
    danz1906 wrote: »
    The JL F113's are the Real Deal, now you know what I was talking about.
    On the Depth Charge scenes in U-571 the F113 is a Bass Monster:biggrin:

    Congrats!


    My goodness, danz, yesterday and today I've tested 2 action Bluray discs: Terminator Salvation & Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. U-571's bass performance still beat Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, but Terminator Salvation provided the best bass attack via the dual F113 setup, well, for now. Heavy hitting while preserving tight response, chest-pounding sub pressure did not lose clean center-channel output. Terminator Salvation is definitely the gate to bass heaven :biggrin:
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
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  • rio203
    rio203 Posts: 15
    edited February 2011
    hey dmara check out cloverfield,war of the worlds,master and commander,and saving private ryan these movies kick **** over u571 i have all the best hard hitting movies and last but not least the best is inception
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    I used one of those Auralex Subdude HD's for my old 55lbs Polk Audio microPro 4000: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4134388186_938a992727_o.jpg
    It would be OK for lightweight subs such as the microPro. However I don't know if its foam legs could stay strong for long to carry the JL Audio Fathom F113's 130lb weight even though its specs showed it can hold up to 200 lbs.

    DMara, I think they make a Larger one for Subs up to 300LBS.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    My goodness, danz, yesterday and today I've tested 2 action Bluray discs: Terminator Salvation & Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. U-571's bass performance still beat Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, but Terminator Salvation provided the best bass attack via the dual F113 setup, well, for now. Heavy hitting while preserving tight response, chest-pounding sub pressure did not lose clean center-channel output. Terminator Salvation is definitely the gate to bass heaven :biggrin:

    Yessssssssss, Terminator Salvation does have great Bass:smile: Also
    check out War of the Worlds and my Favorite Blu-ray of 2010..Inception:biggrin:
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    rio203 wrote: »
    hey dmara check out cloverfield,war of the worlds,master and commander,and saving private ryan these movies kick **** over u571 i have all the best hard hitting movies and last but not least the best is inception

    CloverField is a great choice Rio:biggrin:
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • rio203
    rio203 Posts: 15
    edited February 2011
    yep cloverfield is not a good movie but the sound is one of the best dolbytrueHD movies out there also check out michael jackson this is it,and nine inch nails live beside you in time
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited February 2011
    i liked cloverfield. :)
    design is where science and art break even.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    Rambo

    The Expendables

    The Incredible Hulk
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    rio203 wrote: »
    yep cloverfield is not a good movie but the sound is one of the best dolbytrueHD movies out there also check out michael jackson this is it,and nine inch nails live beside you in time

    Agreed, that Nine Inch Nails Blu-Ray has Awesome Bass!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    rio203 wrote: »
    master and commander,and saving private ryan these movies kick ****

    Yep, Master and Commander is a Classic!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • rio203
    rio203 Posts: 15
    edited February 2011
    my ht
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  • bdaley6509
    bdaley6509 Posts: 1,167
    edited February 2011
    Very nice.
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  • Jason_k
    Jason_k Posts: 110
    edited February 2011
    Reading about the F113 for the past few months, I finally pulled the trigger today and bought one! Worst thing is i have to wait around 2 weeks to get it, and i haven't told the wifey yet either...trouble
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    Jason_k wrote: »
    Reading about the F113 for the past few months, I finally pulled the trigger today and bought one! Worst thing is i have to wait around 2 weeks to get it, and i haven't told the wifey yet either...trouble

    Congrats!!!!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited February 2011
    Go All The Ways, Guyz!

    Get a Pair of These...The monstrosity of the Xmax King!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5tdPhaNAUY&feature=related
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Go All The Ways, Guyz!

    Get a Pair of These...The monstrosity of the Xmax King!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5tdPhaNAUY&feature=related

    Mannnnnnnn,,,,,,,,Very Impressive!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited February 2011
    That must be insanely loud with the excursion that far... knowing what my f112 does when it's not pushing that hard my ears don't want that pressure in his room.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited February 2011
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Mannnnnnnn,,,,,,,,Very Impressive!

    Yeah Dan. It's pretty impressive. But the JL subs are sealed, so the power required for doing that kind of excursion is insane. I think Gotham got 3KW plate amp?
    grimmace19 wrote: »
    That must be insanely loud with the excursion that far... knowing what my f112 does when it's not pushing that hard my ears don't want that pressure in his room.

    I think it's diggin deep low. I don't hear really loud music from the video but it's hard to tell. It depends on the mic on the Video Camera he is using. IMO, the excursion is probably doing the low end extension...
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited February 2011
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Gotham got 3KW plate amp

    I just looked it up. It's 3800W short term power. You better have 40A dedicated outlet for each of them. :biggrin::biggrin:
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    grimmace19 wrote: »
    That must be insanely loud with the excursion that far... knowing what my f112 does when it's not pushing that hard my ears don't want that pressure in his room.

    Very nice system!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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