Old Truck v. New Truck Styling

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,119
    edited November 2007
    I personally like the way the new Chevy's look...
    Boy, I don't. I think Chevy screwed up on the latest year design. WTF is up with the 3 part metal/plastic bumper if the front? I drive a Chevy 2500HD Pickumuptruck....well Trey, you've seen it, and that is the last Chevy truck I would own until they came out with something that I wouldn't be embarrassed to drive. I was gonna trade in, but saw them and decided real quick I'm happy with what I have. We still need to race! :p:D

    As for old school -vs- new school, I like the interiors of the new, but the exterior of the old. For some reason, they just look more like how a truck should look to me. Plus, you could scromp on the hood of an older truck' hood, but you can't even flick your finger at the new trucks without denting them.

    BTW, 83,000 miles and no engine or tranny prob's. Just warrantee work and new tires and I only paid 18,4 out the door. Taxes, title, tags and all. Not bad at all for a brand spankin' new truck. :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,549
    edited November 2007
    I think you'd beat me...

    It was hard to keep up with you in traffic... ;)

    Now if I had my 91, I'd of been right there with you, if not worse...

    Once you add on a back seat to a truck... you gain some crazy as hell blind spots... LOL

    In my 91, I could weave in and out of traffic like no ones business..
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 20,119
    edited November 2007
    Ahhh, I was just razzin' ya'. That was fun driving back from PF! :D
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited November 2007
    MattN03 wrote: »
    Nice looking truck, but compared to the Big 3, the rear axle in a Titan is a joke. It looks like it came out of my 4 banger Ranger...

    Have there been many problems (breakage) in the rear end of these trucks?

    Actually the pinion/ring gears and axle shafts in the dana 44 based axle/diff is really strong....where the problem existed was in the spider gears of the diff itself....they couldnt handle the horsepower and were on occasion failing.

    They have since gone from a 2 spider design to a 4 spider design and no more problems were observed. For me it didnt matter...I replaced the entire differential with a Truetrac limited slip http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/PerformanceProducts/Products/Differentials/DetroitTruetrac/index.htm ...which replaces EVERYTHING except the very strong pinion/ring gears assy.
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  • hypertone
    hypertone Posts: 150
    edited November 2007
    New trucks are pretty gaudy looking on the outside imo. It is nice that manufacturers finally realized that just because it's a truck doesn't mean it shouldn't have some luxury and comfort, but the exteriors are just overstyled, to the point of being obnoxious or even comical. I remember a time when the people who bought trucks used them mainly for hauling or earning a living, now it seems like most truck buyers are office types who just want a huge vehicle. I don't quite understand it myself. They must be a **** to park.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,549
    edited November 2007
    I use my truck as a truck about once a month...

    Most of it is daily driving

    I've drove many different cars/SUVs and so forth..

    And a constant remains -- I hate them...

    Now you say - why not a small truck...

    Because I dont see the point in a small truck... might as well be a car!

    Thats why I own a big truck... I dont really have any issues parking it - but granted, I'm the guy that parks at the end of the Walmart parking lot.... ;)
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited November 2007
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Trucks are supposed to be trucks... my '74 Bronco was a truck...

    My 68, 71, 3 73's, 75 Broncos' were real trucks, and my 68 Sport still is:)
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited November 2007
    I've seen a few of the new Tundra's out and about, and some look good, but most don't from what I've seen.

    The personally don't mind a big grill, but not if the main looking part of the grill is the 4" wide chromed surround.........And the front end of the Dodge and Tundra looks the same shape with admustments in headlights, grille, but same bubbleish shape.......

    From a quality perspective though, those Toyota's are VERY nice to ride in..........comfortable, quiet, and quick........
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited November 2007
    This may be a bit off topic..but one thing I can't get used to is the quad cab. I see the practical side of it...but I just can't get used to it. The extended cabs are bad enough, I'm a regular cab guy.

    BDT
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,549
    edited November 2007
    Having a regular cab before...

    then going to an extended cab...

    It will be pretty hard to go back to a regular cab..

    The extra space is awesome - but the lack of space behind seats sucks... ah well

    As for Crew Cabs, I like crew cabs - my Dad has a crew cab Titan, and its just... to big.. lol

    Don't know what else to say lol - just a monsterous truck, something that big is just unndeeded! ;)
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited November 2007
    If you got **** to haul, that's what the bed is for.

    BDT
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,549
    edited November 2007
    Im talking like for a place to put straps, jumper cable, tire iron, etc etc etc
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited November 2007
    Kex wrote: »
    Our truck is dirty and muddy frequently (our 4x4 was required, not desired) but she goes fine and we'll probably keep her for a while because a new one with the same specifications is pushing $40K or thereabouts and I need money for my Polks! I'm not convinced there's any real difference between Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge in terms of capability or intrinsical quality, and there are those that will swear to the contrary for each of the three I'll bet, but we'll probably stay with Chevrolet "for old times' sake"! Just my $0.02!
    Very nice looking truck! Dad has a teal green pickup of that same body style. Can't remember the exact year, though; 95 or 96? Those are probably my second favorite body style...but after looking at your pics...I might prefer it over the 99 - 03 style!
    Having a regular cab before...

    then going to an extended cab...

    It will be pretty hard to go back to a regular cab..

    The extra space is awesome - but the lack of space behind seats sucks... ah well

    As for Crew Cabs, I like crew cabs - my Dad has a crew cab Titan, and its just... to big.. lol

    Don't know what else to say lol - just a monsterous truck, something that big is just unndeeded! ;)
    You NEEEEED a big cab. ;)
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    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,505
    edited November 2007
    I like the new Chevy Silverado, the wider fenders give you nice big tire options without having the tires look too big for the truck. they designed it to look right with big rims. 20" on, say, my 1991 GMC Sierra would look ridiculous to an extent, but look right at home on the new truck. Its just designing with trends in mind.

    I like the Chevy design over all the new ones so far. I like the Tundra overall.

    In terms of older trucks, I like em. allways did. becuase they were trucks meant to be used as trucks. plastic interiors? sure, but you could get a good truck for less than 35-40 grand.

    remember when pick ups were actually trucks, and didnt have car interiors?


    The 4th picture in trey's initial post is pretty much my interior. is it the flashiest interior?, no, but its simple and gets the job done.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,505
    edited November 2007
    TroyD wrote: »
    The extended cabs are bad enough, I'm a regular cab guy.

    BDT

    believe me dude, were a frikkin minority. I'm a regular cab guy myself. these quad cabs cant even fit a quad (atv) in them, how ridiculous is that?!?!
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  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited November 2007
    I'm a big fan of older ("older" to me is pre-1960) step side pickups and have owned many over the last 40 years. I haven't had a truck in the stable for nearly a decade now, but recently purchased a 2008 Dodge 1500 Ram Sport 4x4 as my retirement "honey do" vehicle.

    I went with the Sport package to get all that chrome off the nose and rear of the truck, add leather heated buckets, 20" chrome clad aluminum wheels, and get the 5.7L multi-displacement hemi w/automatic and shift on demand transfer case. The tipping points for me while shopping were the lifetime powertrain warranty and curb appeal (without all the chrome, this truck does it for me.) It's an excellent ride, on par with my last 4x4 (actually AWD)--a 2002 Escalade, has power to spare, towing package if I need it, and I really enjoy the Sirius radio with digital player input and U-Connect (Bluetooth wireless cell phone interface).

    Here's a glamour shot from the Dodge web site of the truck I selected.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,232
    edited November 2007
    My 68, 71, 3 73's, 75 Broncos' were real trucks, and my 68 Sport still is
    Cool enough! My '74 isn't still in the family, but I do know its current owner and it's still going stong.
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited November 2007
    Have you seen the new composite* beds Toyota has on the 07 Tacomas? They'll never rust.


    *hardcore plastic
  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited November 2007
    There is no way I could own a new truck. Way too much money for something that I'm going to beat the crap out of. Trucks need to have things thrown in their bed, be driven over curbs at 20mph, through rivers, etc to be happy.
    The styling of the new trucks is ok, but the older ones exude character. Gimme a Bronco I can take the top off of, anything with a solid front axle; I don't need 8 cupholders and a rear view camera. If I don't have a snowball's chance of fixing it when something breaks in the woods, I'm not real keen on driving it.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2007
    What nothing about Toyota 4Runners....

    What are we a newer 70's Station Wagon?

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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited November 2007
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    What nothing about Toyota 4Runners....

    Heck no! One of my dream projects would be an '85 Runner. Only year to have a solid front axle and EFI. They also have the removeable top. The big challenge, especially in the northeast, is to find one that hasn't rusted to nothing. Bulletproof motor, tons of aftermarket parts, hmmm.....

    Something along the lines of this
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,691
    edited November 2007
    Im talking like for a place to put straps, jumper cable, tire iron, etc etc etc


    It's called a TOOLBOX. Big, chrome and diamond plated. NOT that cheap plastic crap they sell at Wallmart.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2007
    1953-

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    1978-

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    Real trucks can do real work.

    My Ranger is a fake truck... but it does what I need it to do.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,549
    edited November 2007
    I dont like tool boxes...

    To much constant cleaning...
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  • capecodder
    capecodder Posts: 613
    edited November 2007
    I don't understand why "newer" trucks have made it sooo dificult to put anything in them. Often the sides are so high you can barely see in them let alone reach in and store something. The fishermen i deal with all complain about that.
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,691
    edited November 2007
    John in MA wrote: »
    Mechanically, older trucks can be more rugged although usually not as refined as newer ones. Some of the best engines came out of the mid-late '90s. I don't like older gassers with carbs. Fuel injection is the way to go. Newer than around '00 ones are hampered with too much redesign for EPA and crash standards.
    My ideal truck would be a 1992 Dodge Ram with the Cummins diesel, or perhaps a military M1008 which was an upgraded K30-type Chevy with Army features.

    This is why I want to build one. The ramjet 350 is not that bad,since the
    computer is for the engine only. Add a beefed up OD transmission,
    and you're off. Add stuff as needed, or just roll out the rubber mat
    on the floor. (I hate carpet in trucks). There are some very easy
    throttle body injection kits out now, too. No reason to use a
    knuckle dragger carb any more. NAdams, Now THAT IS A TRUCK!
    You're still using the small bales?????
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2007
    Kex wrote: »
    Love the 1953! Love the "block brakes" feature too (on the step)! They both look like they need a bit of TLC though!

    Actually, the '53 had much better than the block brake. The engine is locked up, so all you gotta do is put her in gear and start letting the clutch out :D

    The '78 is a 3/4 ton 4wd with the Trailering Special package. This including a low geared tranny, as well as heavier leaf packs in the back. 10,000# GVW, but we've had a ton and a half of coal in her when we were still burning coal.

    And, the 52 bales of hay in that shot just made it ride nice... otherwise it's a kidney buster to be sure. Still completely mostly road legal, too.... and we don't even register it as a farm truck (because we're not a farm).

    And yea, we use small bales. Easier to transport from the local farm to dad's barn for the horses. With only 2 horses, 1 load lasts a month or two. We have room for probably 5 loads that size, but usually just keep one full load in reserve and work off the oldest.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited November 2007
    Don't you wish you could still sit IN the engine compartment and work on the 350 in your truck???

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    Original options plate in the glovebox... Dec 11th, '77

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,124
    edited November 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    It's called a TOOLBOX. Big, chrome and diamond plated. NOT that cheap plastic crap they sell at Wallmart.

    Actually, I prefer the matte finish but, yeah, a toobox. That's where you store your ****.

    Pickups now are just another glaring example of the chickification of our society.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited November 2007
    i love the looks of lifted trucks. i also love slammed trucks. anyone who argues the fact that a truck should be used as a truck should be shot at point-blank range with spit-wads. a person is free to do with their vehicle anything they want. whether it is practical or not. i sure do damn wish i could afford to lift my rig and still be able to fit in the garage.

    i would love my truck to look just like this one. this is my exact truck with a lift and rims.

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