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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,760
    build that foundation first.
    Yep, learned that a long time ago.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,783
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    build that foundation first.

    I agree 100%.
    2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,353
    F1nut wrote: »
    build that foundation first.
    Yep, learned that a long time ago.
    tratliff wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    build that foundation first.
    I agree 100%.
    There ya go, folks...brilliant minds coming together.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 1,957
    Not only the benefits described but also protection for your equipment.
    Sounds like a win win.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,048
    B) I struck a deal on US Audio Mart on a little something today,
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,783
    edited January 11
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    B) I struck a deal on US Audio Mart on a little something today,

    What’s on its way? Should we assume it’s a AQ product since you posted about checking them out locally yesterday?
    2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,048
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,916
    I've got everything audio related in my system getting it's power from the Shunyata now and the improvement was not as dramatic as it was when I hooked up the Mcintosh.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,048
    I was going to ask what you have all plugged into this..
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,916
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I was going to ask what you have all plugged into this..
    In addition to everything in my signature, I also have my pc plugged into it. My amps are still plugged directly into the wall.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,760
    In my experience, if one is expecting a night and day difference one will likely be disappointed. It's more subtle.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,432
    Agree, it's subtle, but noticeable.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,048
    F1nut wrote: »
    In my experience, if one is expecting a night and day difference one will likely be disappointed. It's more subtle.

    This is what I am expecting, when I first started this hobby, and started using a Monster/Panamax/Furman. they were subtle, except with the TV, that is where it really shined IMO..

    Nonetheless, I have been using this Panamax for many years now in my 2 channel set-up, I would assume/hope I will notice a difference between what I have coming, and the Panamax.. B)

    I have been wanting the Panamax to go a long time ago, but something else to upgrade made more sense at the time.

    Either way I will be glad to see it go..

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,916
    I was not expecting night and day either. The improvement.provided by the Shunyata is subtle, but cumulative. By that I mean that everything sounds just a bit cleaner,vocals instrument separation, soundstage… improved slightly, but taken as a whole presentation, once you have stopped focusing on trying to hear something different, the totality of the improvement becomes more apparent
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon MiND2 Shunyata Triton

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,353
    Why not try one of the Puritan power products while you're at it? Upscale Audio has a generous trial/return policy.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,334
    If you have an emi tester watch what happens to the 120 leg you plug your pc into and switch it on. Now that is a dramatic difference and even moreso when measuring the power coming out of the back of the conditioner.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,048
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    B) I struck a deal on US Audio Mart on a little something today,

    What’s on its way? Should we assume it’s a AQ product since you posted about checking them out locally yesterday?

    It's officially on it's way, received tracking earlier today.. :smiley:
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,783
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    B) I struck a deal on US Audio Mart on a little something today,

    What’s on its way? Should we assume it’s a AQ product since you posted about checking them out locally yesterday?

    It's officially on it's way, received tracking earlier today.. :smiley:

    Interested to understand what it is.
    2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,048
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    B) I struck a deal on US Audio Mart on a little something today,

    What’s on its way? Should we assume it’s a AQ product since you posted about checking them out locally yesterday?

    It's officially on it's way, received tracking earlier today.. :smiley:

    Interested to understand what it is.

    Oh, I thought you knew? 😉

    J/K

    A mint condition AQ 7000, with a Brand New AQ 1.5m Dragon. It was overall more than I wanted to spend, but I got both for less than what a AQ 7000 would have cost me brand new. Don’t think I could have found a better deal for such a beast of a unit.

    I’m now trying to figure out what I can do to give my shelf a little extra strength to hold the weight a little better to ease my mind. 🤓

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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,783
    edited January 14
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    B) I struck a deal on US Audio Mart on a little something today,

    What’s on its way? Should we assume it’s a AQ product since you posted about checking them out locally yesterday?

    It's officially on it's way, received tracking earlier today.. :smiley:

    Interested to understand what it is.

    Oh, I thought you knew? 😉

    J/K

    A mint condition AQ 7000, with a Brand New AQ 1.5m Dragon. It was overall more than I wanted to spend, but I got both for less than what a AQ 7000 would have cost me brand new. Don’t think I could have found a better deal for such a beast of a unit.

    I’m now trying to figure out what I can do to give my shelf a little extra strength to hold the weight a little better to ease my mind. 🤓

    You are in for a treat. It’s a great combination. Heavy as hell so get ready to move it. You will never look back at conditioners again. Although I feel like additional power cables may be in your future.
    2 Channel Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II, 2 REL Carbon Limited, Norma Revo IPA-140B, Norma Revo DAC-2, Lumin U2 Mini, VPI Prime w/SoundSmith Zephyr MIMC, Modwright PH 150, Denon DP-59l w/Denon DL-301MKII, WAY Silver 3 Ana+ Speaker Cables, WAY Interconnect Cables, AudioQuest Niagara 7000 w/Dragon, WAY power cables for all other sources.
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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,216
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    B) I struck a deal on US Audio Mart on a little something today,

    What’s on its way? Should we assume it’s a AQ product since you posted about checking them out locally yesterday?

    It's officially on it's way, received tracking earlier today.. :smiley:

    Interested to understand what it is.

    Oh, I thought you knew? 😉

    J/K

    A mint condition AQ 7000, with a Brand New AQ 1.5m Dragon. It was overall more than I wanted to spend, but I got both for less than what a AQ 7000 would have cost me brand new. Don’t think I could have found a better deal for such a beast of a unit.

    I’m now trying to figure out what I can do to give my shelf a little extra strength to hold the weight a little better to ease my mind. 🤓

    I had a local wood worker build me a maple and walnut shelf to my specifications. Great investment, and highly recommended.
    Analog: Hana ML > MoFi UltraDeck > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    Norma IPA-140 > Rosso Fiorentino Volterra
    Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
    Discogs
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  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 2,409
    jdjohn wrote: »
    Why not try one of the Puritan power products while you're at it? Upscale Audio has a generous trial/return policy.

    I don't see Puritan Audio Labs stuff on Upscale Audio's site. Did you mean Jaguar Audio?

    I spoke with Darren at Jaguar yesterday. He's pretty knowledgeable about the Puritan products. He really stressed the 100 hour break-in that is recommended on their (Jaguar's) website. Said that is primarily for the power cable. I should have clarified if that was from the time it is first plugged in (~4 days) or if it is total listening time, which might be butting up against their 45-day trial period.

    The "NFR" version is the one with the upgraded Furutech sockets (sans dust covers) and includes the upgraded power cable and Furutech connectors on it, but man, they really get a premium for that. $7,500 vs. $2,700 for the base PSM156.

    Brian

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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,353
    bcwsrt wrote: »
    jdjohn wrote: »
    Why not try one of the Puritan power products while you're at it? Upscale Audio has a generous trial/return policy.

    I don't see Puritan Audio Labs stuff on Upscale Audio's site. Did you mean Jaguar Audio?

    I spoke with Darren at Jaguar yesterday. He's pretty knowledgeable about the Puritan products. He really stressed the 100 hour break-in that is recommended on their (Jaguar's) website. Said that is primarily for the power cable. I should have clarified if that was from the time it is first plugged in (~4 days) or if it is total listening time, which might be butting up against their 45-day trial period.

    The "NFR" version is the one with the upgraded Furutech sockets (sans dust covers) and includes the upgraded power cable and Furutech connectors on it, but man, they really get a premium for that. $7,500 vs. $2,700 for the base PSM156.
    Oops, I did mean Jaguar Audio... sorry about that. I plugged a space heater into my conditioner during the break-in period in order to get some serious amperage flowing B)
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,353
    Much cleaner and tighter BTUs.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
    "Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
    Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,342
    Extra crispy
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,048
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    B) I struck a deal on US Audio Mart on a little something today,

    What’s on its way? Should we assume it’s a AQ product since you posted about checking them out locally yesterday?

    It's officially on it's way, received tracking earlier today.. :smiley:

    Interested to understand what it is.

    Oh, I thought you knew? 😉

    J/K

    A mint condition AQ 7000, with a Brand New AQ 1.5m Dragon. It was overall more than I wanted to spend, but I got both for less than what a AQ 7000 would have cost me brand new. Don’t think I could have found a better deal for such a beast of a unit.

    I’m now trying to figure out what I can do to give my shelf a little extra strength to hold the weight a little better to ease my mind. 🤓

    You are in for a treat. It’s a great combination. Heavy as hell so get ready to move it. You will never look back at conditioners again. Although I feel like additional power cables may be in your future.

    Out for delivery!! B)
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