Power Conditioner recommendations...

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,915
    billbillw wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    The Puritan 156. Lots of ferrite core filters. Clean layout. What's up with those weird socket covers?

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    Perhaps the scale of the photo distorts things, but I'm thinking those internal wires look a little smallish for 15A service...

    14ga solid is rated for 15amp, it's pretty small all things considered.
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,315
    F1nut wrote: »
    To keep the dust out of unused plugs.

    Hilarious!
    Why exactly is that so assuming?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,655
    jdjohn wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    To keep the dust out of unused plugs.

    Hilarious!
    Why exactly is that so assuming?

    If you can't see the ridiculousness of that reason, I can't help you.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,978
    jdjohn wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    To keep the dust out of unused plugs.

    Hilarious!
    Why exactly is that so assuming?

    Amusing??

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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,315
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    jdjohn wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    To keep the dust out of unused plugs.

    Hilarious!
    Why exactly is that so assuming?

    Amusing??

    Yes, amusing...sorry. But I still don't see the humor - it's clearly badgering, and trying to make at least three forum members look foolish for even buying the product.
    "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,310
    F1nut wrote: »
    The Puritan 156. Lots of ferrite core filters. Clean layout. What's up with those weird socket covers?

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    I would assume they use those covers to lower EMI interference. Or just to keep dust out.
    Dan
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,310
    I use Surge X in a lot of my jobs and they make exceptional products. Furman is also very good but they still use MOV technology.

    Dan
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,655
    Hmmm...no covers and the receptacles are not on a strange angle.
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    So, it appears Puritan is an English company, which may explain, in part, the reason for the covers. They have a paranoia about people sticking stuff where it doesn't belong. For example, they are the reason a lot of speakers come with their binding post banana holes plugged with plastic caps.

    Another possibility is the covers are an attempt to keep out EMI/RFI, although it seems not all of their products have the covers, which sort of shoots down that theory.

    It also appears all of their units come with 20 amp IEC sockets, but are restricted to a 15 amp maximum load, which is a bit odd.


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,655
    Mystery solved. After a bit of digging those outlets are British waterproof panel or wall box mount outlets. Perhaps they got a good buy on them?

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  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 2,361
    I was close. Figured it was some local code/requirement and more efficient to just ship all production that way.

    So, there’s some socket upgrade that doesn’t use the covers? That they’re installed upside down is still … amusing, I suppose.

    Brian

    One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Teac VRDS-701T CD transport | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,655
    That they’re installed upside down is still … amusing, I suppose.

    Good eyes...I didn't notice that.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,915
    Ground up is acceptable and maybe code in areas. The idea behind it is heavy plugs and weaker socket contacts allow plugs to expose the blades enough for something to make contact. With ground up IF something fell and made contact it wouldn't make "electrical" contact with a blade.
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  • bcwsrt
    bcwsrt Posts: 2,361
    Row of ground up outlets at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. Timely discussion! lol

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    Brian

    One-owner Polk Audio RTA 15TL speakers refreshed w/ Sonicap, Vishay/Mills and Cardas components by "pitdogg2," "xschop" billet tweeter plates and BH5 | Stereo REL Acoustics T/5x subwoofers w/ Bassline Blue cables | Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III integrated tube amp | Technics SL-1210G turntable w/ Ortofon 2M Black LVB 250 MM cart | Teac VRDS-701T CD transport | LampizatOr Baltic 4 tube DAC | Nordost & DH Labs cables/interconnects | APC H15 Power Conditioner | GIK Acoustics room treatments | Degritter RCM
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,861
    When blood splatters on the wall it runs down and grounds out before hitting the +
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,682
    edited October 23
    Also following as while I have a Furman AC-215A on my modest 2 channel setup (and a whole home protector at the junction box), I’d like to ensure my Pathos (and wiim) stay safe.

    And while I’d love to run a dedicated line as it shares a wall with my garage, that’s just not gonna happen unless @lightman decides to make a house call out here again and then I’d also have maxed out my box with 4 dedicated lines to my audio stuff lol…

    So for now it shares a line with other devices which includes a light/fan combo I believe and a coupe small floor lights.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,149
    The power here has always been consistent with few fluctuations. It’s only a recent electric supplier monopoly issue, where power is lost for no apparent reason like on a clear blue day… It’s unbelievable.

    This won’t help the lack of power but if you have power fluctuations, I’ve been very pleased with my PS audio P 10 regenerator …..it’s an older model that maybe close to 10 years old. I bought for $2800 and MSRP was 5K.
    Something to consider if you’re not getting a pure sine wave
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • Dr_Wu
    Dr_Wu Posts: 356
    Love my P10 regen. Think there's one on usaudiomart right now for 2k (no affiliation, just happened to see it).
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,872
    Thank you guys for the input. I am looking into a pair of them now and hope to make a decision soon. I have narrowed it down to these...

    https://shunyata.com/product/denali-6000s-v2/

    https://www.psaudio.com/products/directstream-power-plant-15/
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,872
    edited October 29
    Has anyone ever heard of this one? Comes from Japan but I find zero information on it. There is one on Ebay, listed in Japan for 17K! :o

    https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisbg703-acrolink-6n-nct15a-15-amp-new-issolation-transformer-ac-conditioners?utm_campaign=website&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid

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    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,942
    Zero information and yet, someone is already putting it up for sale? That raises a flag for me. YMMV.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,872
    edited October 29
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Zero information and yet, someone is already putting it up for sale? That raises a flag for me. YMMV.

    Tom
    Even a search on HiFi Shark yields no results for the power conditioners. Hundreds of cables however.

    Apparently, they have deep ties to Esoteric/TEAC. They also produce a wide range of cables and such. The Audiogon seller is someone I have known and done business with in the past. This thing looks to be in the same league as Esoteric in terms of build quality.

    If he is willing to let me give it a demo run in my rig, I might give it a go and see how it shakes out.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,942
    A demo run in your own system would be worth it. Otherwise? A hard pass IMO only.

    Tom
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,915
    Be aware of voltage requirements. Most Japanese products run on 100v.
    Input : 100(AC)
    Power output : 100V(AC) x 6, 117V(AC) x 2
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,655
    edited October 30
    Doing a search for Acrolink isolation transformer, which is what it is, turns up all kinds of info including their website.

    I've dealt with Weinhart, standup dude, but I'd pass on the Arcolink due to the voltage situation.



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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,872
    According to the seller, this is a US spec unit... just really confused by what this does vs some others. I was able to find a 1 paragraph review snippet that gave it very high praise.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,655
    edited October 30
    An isolation transformer has two sets of windings, so there is no direct electrical connection between the input and output. The SDA Dreadnought is an isolation transformer, but with a different purpose than the Arcolink.

    You can search isolation transformer to read about the advantages and disadvantages.

    The bottom line, it's sort of a power conditioner and sort of a surge protector, but only sort of.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,149
    PS Audio just offered “up to 60% off” factory refreshed Power Plant 12s, 15 & 20. In black & silver


    https://www.psaudio.com/products/powerplant-12-refurbished?variant=48716376965410&_kx=tRsihn-DIBYHsqJYvOM_9laTSZhz3d9XpkJXjdwc9YS3xq-loMdi-JcWbhnKGVbK.VZfrTD

    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,978
    SOLD OUT..
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  • Dr_Wu
    Dr_Wu Posts: 356
    edited November 4
    Apologies, it's a Shunyata Denali on audiophilestyles
    No affiliation
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 1,769
    WOW... $4,000 for a P15 and $5,000 for a P20, with warranty, are great prices.
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