Joker

tonybtonyb Posts: 32,434
A lot of controversy around this one, so I had to see what was getting people upset. The wife and I took in an early show at about 4 and the first thing we noticed was a police presence where there normally isn't any. Signs inside warning about the violence in the movie.

Short answer is...it sucked.

The good- JP performance was stellar, but he was portraying a mentally handicapped person instead of the comic book character . None the less, great acting on his part. That's about where the good ends. Almost walked out halfway through because of being bored to death.

Violence ? There is more violence in the first 15 minutes of a John Wick movie. However, here is what is getting peoples shorts all twisted....

The movie sort of glorifies the "mob mentality". 2 scenes, one of which a mob attacks a cop, and towards the end when the whole city is up for grabs from the mob while Joker is standing on a Police car with the mob adoring him.....as they beat and rob people on the street, break windows and rob businesses. You'd think this was an Antifa demonstration on crack.

That's pretty much it, and I don't want to give away too much of the movie. Be prepared to be bored, wondering what the heck everyone is talking about, until the last half hour or so of the movie where it picks up a bit.

Personally, I have to agree with those saying it's a bit irresponsible in todays day and age to put forth the "mob mentality" in any sort of positive light. This is the reason why you'll see police outside movie theatres.

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,434
    Couple more things.....the musical score didn't fit the movie in my opinion, and the ending was crap.

    Joker....the comic book villian, is suppose to be this mastermind of a criminal. This Joker....is a joke, he keeps getting caught.
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  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 7,053
    Is this the one with Cesar Romero?
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  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,462
    I could not agree more.

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  • gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 7,399
    We got tickets for tommorow night, having second thoughts now thanks guys. :(
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,434
    gudnoyez wrote: »
    We got tickets for tommorow night, having second thoughts now thanks guys. :(

    No, go see it Steve. You'll understand why so many have their panties in a knot. The people that love this movie are in love with JP's performance, and rightfully so, but the movie as a whole....blah.

    DC just can't seem to keep pace with Marvel on the comic book movies.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,434
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Is this the one with Cesar Romero?

    I wish it was, enjoyed him as Joker. Though I think to date, Heath played him best.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,518
    No thanks.
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  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 2,908
    Pass
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  • tonyb wrote: »
    A lot of controversy around this one, so I had to see what was getting people upset. The wife and I took in an early show at about 4 and the first thing we noticed was a police presence where there normally isn't any. Signs inside warning about the violence in the movie.

    Short answer is...it sucked.

    The good- JP performance was stellar, but he was portraying a mentally handicapped person instead of the comic book character . None the less, great acting on his part. That's about where the good ends. Almost walked out halfway through because of being bored to death.

    Violence ? There is more violence in the first 15 minutes of a John Wick movie. However, here is what is getting peoples shorts all twisted....

    The movie sort of glorifies the "mob mentality". 2 scenes, one of which a mob attacks a cop, and towards the end when the whole city is up for grabs from the mob while Joker is standing on a Police car with the mob adoring him.....as they beat and rob people on the street, break windows and rob businesses. You'd think this was an Antifa demonstration on crack.

    That's pretty much it, and I don't want to give away too much of the movie. Be prepared to be bored, wondering what the heck everyone is talking about, until the last half hour or so of the movie where it picks up a bit.

    Personally, I have to agree with those saying it's a bit irresponsible in todays day and age to put forth the "mob mentality" in any sort of positive light. This is the reason why you'll see police outside movie theatres.

    Hollywood has found a way to keep the "rent-a-mobs" in practice until the one.
  • verbverb Posts: 10,158
    Wow. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Tony. I’ll pass.
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  • indyhawgindyhawg Posts: 1,479
    edited October 2019
    Thanks for the review Tony. I will wait for it to come out on Netflix.
  • BlueBirdMusicBlueBirdMusic Registered User Posts: 1,066
    tonyb thanks for the review. I am glad I don't have to see it now.
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,447
    This is funny/interesting, because the couple reviews I have read just talked about how bad the movie was, convoluted plot in a movie that can't decide what it wants to be. I was going to avoid it due to that. I hadn't heard about the violence thing...
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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,322
    And yet it is poised for a 750M+ haul. The biggest for an October movie I believe.

    I watched it. I thought it was actually very moving coming from a medical background.
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  • DarqueKnightDarqueKnight Posts: 6,656
    tonyb wrote: »
    Joker....the comic book villian, is suppose to be this mastermind of a criminal. This Joker....is a joke, he keeps getting caught.

    Yes.

    The comic book Joker is a genius level chemist and is Batman's intellectual equal.

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  • gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 7,399
    We went sunday night I can say it's not oscar worthy but it held our attention. I probably could of waited for the 4k Blu Ray and saved big bucks 3 tickets with popcorn and sodas worthy it was definitely not.
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  • kevhed72kevhed72 Posts: 4,125
    Meh. Thanks Tony....I assumed it sucked.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,304
    I will wait for the 4K BluRay release.
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  • mantismantis Posts: 15,903
    I may go see it. The previews look fantastic.
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  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 14,480
    I must be in the minority, I thought it was a very moving with stellar acting... Finally watched it tonight...
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,304
    Thanks for reminding me. My 4K Blu-Ray arrived so I need to watch it. Getting away from the stereo is the hard part.
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,027
    A lot of nominations from the Academy for this one!
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  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,447
    I do want to see this one!
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  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 2,300
    Watched this last night, what a dark...dark movie. Very disturbing.
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  • OliviformOliviform Posts: 1
    I just recently watched this too, it was quite disappointing.
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