Joker
tonyb
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A lot of controversy around this one, so I had to see what was getting people upset. The wife and I took in an early show at about 4 and the first thing we noticed was a police presence where there normally isn't any. Signs inside warning about the violence in the movie.
Short answer is...it sucked.
The good- JP performance was stellar, but he was portraying a mentally handicapped person instead of the comic book character . None the less, great acting on his part. That's about where the good ends. Almost walked out halfway through because of being bored to death.
Violence ? There is more violence in the first 15 minutes of a John Wick movie. However, here is what is getting peoples shorts all twisted....
The movie sort of glorifies the "mob mentality". 2 scenes, one of which a mob attacks a cop, and towards the end when the whole city is up for grabs from the mob while Joker is standing on a Police car with the mob adoring him.....as they beat and rob people on the street, break windows and rob businesses. You'd think this was an Antifa demonstration on crack.
That's pretty much it, and I don't want to give away too much of the movie. Be prepared to be bored, wondering what the heck everyone is talking about, until the last half hour or so of the movie where it picks up a bit.
Personally, I have to agree with those saying it's a bit irresponsible in todays day and age to put forth the "mob mentality" in any sort of positive light. This is the reason why you'll see police outside movie theatres.
Short answer is...it sucked.
The good- JP performance was stellar, but he was portraying a mentally handicapped person instead of the comic book character . None the less, great acting on his part. That's about where the good ends. Almost walked out halfway through because of being bored to death.
Violence ? There is more violence in the first 15 minutes of a John Wick movie. However, here is what is getting peoples shorts all twisted....
The movie sort of glorifies the "mob mentality". 2 scenes, one of which a mob attacks a cop, and towards the end when the whole city is up for grabs from the mob while Joker is standing on a Police car with the mob adoring him.....as they beat and rob people on the street, break windows and rob businesses. You'd think this was an Antifa demonstration on crack.
That's pretty much it, and I don't want to give away too much of the movie. Be prepared to be bored, wondering what the heck everyone is talking about, until the last half hour or so of the movie where it picks up a bit.
Personally, I have to agree with those saying it's a bit irresponsible in todays day and age to put forth the "mob mentality" in any sort of positive light. This is the reason why you'll see police outside movie theatres.
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Couple more things.....the musical score didn't fit the movie in my opinion, and the ending was crap.
Joker....the comic book villian, is suppose to be this mastermind of a criminal. This Joker....is a joke, he keeps getting caught.HT SYSTEM-
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Is this the one with Cesar Romero?
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I could not agree more.
Me: “I am of the belief that great acting can carry any movie”.
Joker movie: “Hold my beer”!
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We got tickets for tommorow night, having second thoughts now thanks guys.
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We got tickets for tommorow night, having second thoughts now thanks guys.
No, go see it Steve. You'll understand why so many have their panties in a knot. The people that love this movie are in love with JP's performance, and rightfully so, but the movie as a whole....blah.
DC just can't seem to keep pace with Marvel on the comic book movies.HT SYSTEM-
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afterburnt wrote: »Is this the one with Cesar Romero?
I wish it was, enjoyed him as Joker. Though I think to date, Heath played him best.HT SYSTEM-
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No thanks.Political Correctness'.........defined
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A lot of controversy around this one, so I had to see what was getting people upset. The wife and I took in an early show at about 4 and the first thing we noticed was a police presence where there normally isn't any. Signs inside warning about the violence in the movie.
Short answer is...it sucked.
The good- JP performance was stellar, but he was portraying a mentally handicapped person instead of the comic book character . None the less, great acting on his part. That's about where the good ends. Almost walked out halfway through because of being bored to death.
Violence ? There is more violence in the first 15 minutes of a John Wick movie. However, here is what is getting peoples shorts all twisted....
The movie sort of glorifies the "mob mentality". 2 scenes, one of which a mob attacks a cop, and towards the end when the whole city is up for grabs from the mob while Joker is standing on a Police car with the mob adoring him.....as they beat and rob people on the street, break windows and rob businesses. You'd think this was an Antifa demonstration on crack.
That's pretty much it, and I don't want to give away too much of the movie. Be prepared to be bored, wondering what the heck everyone is talking about, until the last half hour or so of the movie where it picks up a bit.
Personally, I have to agree with those saying it's a bit irresponsible in todays day and age to put forth the "mob mentality" in any sort of positive light. This is the reason why you'll see police outside movie theatres.
Hollywood has found a way to keep the "rent-a-mobs" in practice until the one. -
Wow. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Tony. I’ll pass.Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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Thanks for the review Tony. I will wait for it to come out on Netflix.
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tonyb thanks for the review. I am glad I don't have to see it now."Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"Anger is just anger. It isn’t good. It isn’t bad. It just is. What you do with it is what matters.
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This is funny/interesting, because the couple reviews I have read just talked about how bad the movie was, convoluted plot in a movie that can't decide what it wants to be. I was going to avoid it due to that. I hadn't heard about the violence thing...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
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And yet it is poised for a 750M+ haul. The biggest for an October movie I believe.
I watched it. I thought it was actually very moving coming from a medical background.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Joker....the comic book villian, is suppose to be this mastermind of a criminal. This Joker....is a joke, he keeps getting caught.
Yes.
The comic book Joker is a genius level chemist and is Batman's intellectual equal.
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We went sunday night I can say it's not oscar worthy but it held our attention. I probably could of waited for the 4k Blu Ray and saved big bucks 3 tickets with popcorn and sodas worthy it was definitely not.Home Theater
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Meh. Thanks Tony....I assumed it sucked.
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I will wait for the 4K BluRay release.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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I may go see it. The previews look fantastic.Dan
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I must be in the minority, I thought it was a very moving with stellar acting... Finally watched it tonight...Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎
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Thanks for reminding me. My 4K Blu-Ray arrived so I need to watch it. Getting away from the stereo is the hard part.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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I enjoyed Venom way more....
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A lot of nominations from the Academy for this one!Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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Watched this last night, what a dark...dark movie. Very disturbing.Yep, my name really is Bob.
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I just recently watched this too, it was quite disappointing...
