Joker

tonyb
tonyb Posts: 32,902
A lot of controversy around this one, so I had to see what was getting people upset. The wife and I took in an early show at about 4 and the first thing we noticed was a police presence where there normally isn't any. Signs inside warning about the violence in the movie.

Short answer is...it sucked.

The good- JP performance was stellar, but he was portraying a mentally handicapped person instead of the comic book character . None the less, great acting on his part. That's about where the good ends. Almost walked out halfway through because of being bored to death.

Violence ? There is more violence in the first 15 minutes of a John Wick movie. However, here is what is getting peoples shorts all twisted....

The movie sort of glorifies the "mob mentality". 2 scenes, one of which a mob attacks a cop, and towards the end when the whole city is up for grabs from the mob while Joker is standing on a Police car with the mob adoring him.....as they beat and rob people on the street, break windows and rob businesses. You'd think this was an Antifa demonstration on crack.

That's pretty much it, and I don't want to give away too much of the movie. Be prepared to be bored, wondering what the heck everyone is talking about, until the last half hour or so of the movie where it picks up a bit.

Personally, I have to agree with those saying it's a bit irresponsible in todays day and age to put forth the "mob mentality" in any sort of positive light. This is the reason why you'll see police outside movie theatres.

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    Couple more things.....the musical score didn't fit the movie in my opinion, and the ending was crap.

    Joker....the comic book villian, is suppose to be this mastermind of a criminal. This Joker....is a joke, he keeps getting caught.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    Is this the one with Cesar Romero?
  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,305
    I could not agree more.

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    Joker movie: “Hold my beer”!

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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,056
    We got tickets for tommorow night, having second thoughts now thanks guys. :(
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    gudnoyez wrote: »
    We got tickets for tommorow night, having second thoughts now thanks guys. :(

    No, go see it Steve. You'll understand why so many have their panties in a knot. The people that love this movie are in love with JP's performance, and rightfully so, but the movie as a whole....blah.

    DC just can't seem to keep pace with Marvel on the comic book movies.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    afterburnt wrote: »
    Is this the one with Cesar Romero?

    I wish it was, enjoyed him as Joker. Though I think to date, Heath played him best.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    No thanks.
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  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,162
    Pass
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  • tonyb wrote: »
    A lot of controversy around this one, so I had to see what was getting people upset. The wife and I took in an early show at about 4 and the first thing we noticed was a police presence where there normally isn't any. Signs inside warning about the violence in the movie.

    Short answer is...it sucked.

    The good- JP performance was stellar, but he was portraying a mentally handicapped person instead of the comic book character . None the less, great acting on his part. That's about where the good ends. Almost walked out halfway through because of being bored to death.

    Violence ? There is more violence in the first 15 minutes of a John Wick movie. However, here is what is getting peoples shorts all twisted....

    The movie sort of glorifies the "mob mentality". 2 scenes, one of which a mob attacks a cop, and towards the end when the whole city is up for grabs from the mob while Joker is standing on a Police car with the mob adoring him.....as they beat and rob people on the street, break windows and rob businesses. You'd think this was an Antifa demonstration on crack.

    That's pretty much it, and I don't want to give away too much of the movie. Be prepared to be bored, wondering what the heck everyone is talking about, until the last half hour or so of the movie where it picks up a bit.

    Personally, I have to agree with those saying it's a bit irresponsible in todays day and age to put forth the "mob mentality" in any sort of positive light. This is the reason why you'll see police outside movie theatres.

    Hollywood has found a way to keep the "rent-a-mobs" in practice until the one.
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Wow. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Tony. I’ll pass.
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  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,633
    edited October 2019
    Thanks for the review Tony. I will wait for it to come out on Netflix.
  • tonyb thanks for the review. I am glad I don't have to see it now.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,952
    This is funny/interesting, because the couple reviews I have read just talked about how bad the movie was, convoluted plot in a movie that can't decide what it wants to be. I was going to avoid it due to that. I hadn't heard about the violence thing...
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,505
    And yet it is poised for a 750M+ haul. The biggest for an October movie I believe.

    I watched it. I thought it was actually very moving coming from a medical background.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,760
    tonyb wrote: »
    Joker....the comic book villian, is suppose to be this mastermind of a criminal. This Joker....is a joke, he keeps getting caught.

    Yes.

    The comic book Joker is a genius level chemist and is Batman's intellectual equal.

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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,056
    We went sunday night I can say it's not oscar worthy but it held our attention. I probably could of waited for the 4k Blu Ray and saved big bucks 3 tickets with popcorn and sodas worthy it was definitely not.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,949
    Meh. Thanks Tony....I assumed it sucked.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    I will wait for the 4K BluRay release.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,031
    I may go see it. The previews look fantastic.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,832
    I must be in the minority, I thought it was a very moving with stellar acting... Finally watched it tonight...
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Thanks for reminding me. My 4K Blu-Ray arrived so I need to watch it. Getting away from the stereo is the hard part.
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  • I enjoyed Venom way more....
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,009
    A lot of nominations from the Academy for this one!
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,952
    I do want to see this one!
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 2,961
    Watched this last night, what a dark...dark movie. Very disturbing.
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  • I just recently watched this too, it was quite disappointing.
    ..