Testing your rig....are you up to the task?

That's right. I said it. You up to the task?

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All kidding aside...

There are some newer members here at Club Polk who may have never heard of this disc before. Some of you may even have it but have not listened to it in quite some time.

I'm not going to go into detail on the aspects of part one of this disc. I'm quite sure it has some really nice recorded music. What this post about is part two of this disc.

Particularly the LEDR test and the depth, height and L/R test.

For those who don't know or are unaware, the LEDR test is freakin' awesome. This test was designed to help anyone help locate reflecting surfaces in the listening room that degrade a stereo image.

One test has an image that is right in between both speakers that starts IIRC at the mid part of the speaker and goes up. Straight up to (if dialed in right) can go beyond the height of an 8'tall ceiling. Another test goes in a half moon shape from one speaker to the other. If any part of the half moon imaging is compromised? Fix it until it works. The arch should be smooth, unbroken and symmetrical.

The depth test is (to me) absolutely kickin'. IIRC, it goes back about 8-12 feet and if you r are dialed in? The image goes WAY back beyond where your mains are. Even if there is a wall directly behind your mains.

There are more tests that cover the basics but if you don't know about this and are interested? The CD runs about 30 bucks at the moment. IMO/IME, this is a great way to learn (or re-learn) where you should be at or where you need to be at with regards to getting the absolute best from your rig with spot on imaging.

Regards,

Tom
In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
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  • xsmixsmi Posts: 1,458
    Does it work with SDA?
    2-channel
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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,931
    Yes, it works with SDA.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • I can't find it on TIDAL or Qobuz :D
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  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 576
    I can't find it on TIDAL or Qobuz :D
    If I recall correctly, Chesky has some sort of agreement or affiliation with HDtracks, and as a results you won't find his work on Tidal or Qobuz.

    But a lot of it is on Spotify, and still generally impressive in 320.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    MastersounD Dueventi > Usher T-515 or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,931
    Hey guys, for those who prefer to download/stream their stuff....apparently you can order it directly from Chesky via this link for an uncertain amount over $12 bucks >>> https://cheskyrecords.bandcamp.com/album/chesky-records-jazz-sampler-audiophile-test-vol-1

    Jump to 10 to start the tests. The LEDR should be 11 and depth, 12. FWIW.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,931
    https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2818064?ev=rb

    There is a hard copy at Discogs right now in VG+ condition for $18, shipped to your door as well...

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 576
    While we're talking Chesky, another test CD is "Stereo Review: Gold Stereo and Surround Set Up"

    I'm a big fan of this track:
    https://open.spotify.com/track/2H750SDZWJfai6XOzCEoHn?si=KevHC5cQRsmePdN57TQpeA

    Really showcases the 3D effect that stereo can create. Even on Spotify it's impressive.
    Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
    Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
    MastersounD Dueventi > Usher T-515 or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
    Discogs
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,654
    edited January 22
    Thanks for the references.
    A guy from Raleigh brought a Chesky test disc to play when he bought a few things from me YEARS ago. He left it here which he planned to do. I used it often.

    Looking online I just found this link to a testing compilation. Test your bass and high hearing here. The Xylophone sounds good too.
    enjoy B)

    https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/7073
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    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,883
    I always try to knee my speakers when testing them
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  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,286
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,114
    I have the "ultimate demonstration disc" from Chesky - but not this one Tom

    I will download the HDtracks version of this one and report back here my findings when able.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,931
    edited January 22
    I have that one too but it doesn't have the LEDR/depth/height/L&R test. This is what is key. I must have about 12-14 "test CD's" but this is the only one with the LEDR.

    I'll tell you a key thing that I learned many years ago about this test that was very interesting. I'll save that for later...

    Great link, rooftop59! Thanks.

    Tomo
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,584
    Willow wrote: »
    I always try to knee my speakers when testing them

    She could knee my speakers anytime...
    umm, wait -- did I say that?
    No...
    I mean...

    umm...
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,114
    Could someone upload the liner notes from the physical media please?
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  • This is a fun site with similar tests - even some blind tests you can try!

    https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_ledr.php
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  • verbverb Posts: 9,062
    Thanks Tom for posting that album. Never even heard of it, let alone heard it. I'll look for it! :smile:
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  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 3,836
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,114
    Anyone?....Bueller?
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,654
    marvda1 wrote: »

    The disc the guy brought with him and gave me had That Rebecca Pigeon's Spanish Harlem on it too. Man does it sound great on the Polk SDA-SRS2s. I think my main set-up passed. I feel it could sound better but that's by replacing interconnects. Someday... ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,931
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Anyone?....Bueller?

    Yeah, yeah, yeah....hold your horses there big guy. Some of actually work for a living. o:)

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,931
    edited January 23
    Here ya' go Joe.

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    Marvin, that is the very exact CD that I first heard in Charlotte that introduced me at the time to this thing called "SACD".

    I went to one of the local shops and they had a set of Focal floor standers in one of their rooms with the new at the time beryllium tweeter. I hopped on up there and IIRC didn't bring any CD's with me, so I asked them if they had anything worthy of a decent recording. They ended up slapping in an album that I did not have a chance to ask who it was.

    I ended up listening to Rebecca Pidgeon playing the first song on that album, the song most of probably know by now, "Spanish Harlem". While I wasn't too impressed with the tweeter or the speakers, that song.....man, that song was one of the best recordings I had ever heard in my life. I NEEDED that song in my collection, even if the rest of the album was pure crap. I simply had to have it, no questions or reservations.

    So, after listening to that song a couple of times and then moving on to others that were more in the genre of rock, I asked them who that was and if I could get a copy for myself. Well, they told me that I could buy it online and they told me what the album was. "The World's Greatest Audiophile Recordings".

    Okay, cool!

    So I went home and tried to find it....but all they had was this thing called an "SACD". I thought to myself, "What in the hell is an SACD"? So, I popped onto what I believe was this forum and asked if I could play an SACD on my Jolida. Well, I was schooled very quickly on what an SACD was and that I needed an SACD player in order to play it on my rig. So, I ordered the CD and went out to buy an SACD Player.....all for one song.

    Boy, was I wrong. While it was worth it for that one song just to hear that in my rig (to me), as we all know, SACD offers so much more and I have been in love ever since. That ONE album started my journey into "Audiophile" recordings and all sorts of different formats. I owe it all to listening to that one song off that album and I still listen to it about 20 times a year on average. Killer song, recording and format.

    Thank you, Rebecca!!!

    Tom

    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,584
    treitz3 wrote: »
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Anyone?....Bueller?

    Yeah, yeah, yeah....hold your horses there big guy. Some of actually work for a living. o:)

    Tom
    [emphasis added]

    heh, heh, heh...
    B)
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 15,595
    SACD sucks...It's all about the 8 track
    Get with the program Tom


  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 24,584
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SACD sucks...It's all about the 8 track
    Get with the program Tom


    I suddenly feel so au courant.

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    B)

    (and Chicago X -- I mean, how hip is that?)

  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,114
    Tom. Thank You brother.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,693
    This was always a favorite of mine

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    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,654
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    SACD sucks...It's all about the 8 track
    Get with the program Tom


    I suddenly feel so au courant.

    12180944206_b02b0b171d_c.jpg8trackin by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    B)

    (and Chicago X -- I mean, how hip is that?)

    It's GREAT to still be living and remember when 8-Track was the NEW Tech.. ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,931
    So, has anyone tried this in their rig yet?

    Trey, as you now....that's the exact album I was talking about.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,114
    Didnt get time yet. Will sometime this weekend.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AF-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 1,874
    Tom,
    ran through several of the tests. One thing I noticed is my left channel doesn't travel as wide. Wondering if that's my room acoustics... The Bass tests were cool! 20 hz got the fish in my fish tank excited!
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