polkL800 Audiogon $ 4500 Black ,new in box,never opened

ptrooper
ptrooper Posts: 501
edited January 2020 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
Now for sale Audiogon....Black New Never opened
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    I may be incorrect but weren't we just talking about this one about a week or so ago and their was a red flag of some sort?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
    edited January 2020
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I may be incorrect but weren't we just talking about this one about a week or so ago and their was a red flag of some sort?

    Tom
    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/189119/l800-s#latest

    I'd say they're HOT

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,708
    Zero feedback, just joined Dec. 2019.
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  • ptrooper
    ptrooper Posts: 501
    Got to start some where!...If they come with a receipt of purchase i'd call them a 'Bargain"
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
    Just a thought. I remember in one of the Polk L800's Demo locations, I "think" they were giving away a pair of L800's. You don't suppose the pair listed are from the person who might have won the drawing, and would just rather have the cash they might bring? Or, am I way off base here?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,708
    Mike, you have a point.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    Has anyone directly contacted the seller to ask him/her any questions?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,438
    Santa came late for someone, possibly
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
    edited January 2020
    scubalab wrote: »
    Just a thought. I remember in one of the Polk L800's Demo locations, I "think" they were giving away a pair of L800's. You don't suppose the pair listed are from the person who might have won the drawing, and would just rather have the cash they might bring? Or, am I way off base here?

    Mike - This is very likely what happened. I was at one of the first demos at HiDef Lifestyle in Harrisburg on September 17th. They did in fact raffle off a pair of L800s and an LG projector. The pair they had in the demo were black, but I'm not sure if they were the ones they gave away or if they sent a brand new pair to the winner.

    Unfortunately in the drawing, I was ONE number off (the guy who walked in the door right behind me got the winning ticket) - THAT close! I remember the winner being (to my surprise) quite un-enthusiastic when he won. York being so close to Harrisburg, I'm willing to bet the seller is the guy who won those.

    Had I won, there's a good possibility I'd sell too since I don't have a good space to set them up properly.

    If anyone is looking to get a pair, I don't see any harm in reaching out to the seller...

    ONE number away from winning, dang that sucks :'(

    "If" this is the case, I would imagine the seller would entertain a reasonable offer, being as he has no capital invested.



  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,926
    edited January 2020
    There may be interesting tax consequences on winning and then selling a pair of loudspeakers.

    :|
    VR3 wrote: »
    Imo, this sale is important to the value of the L800.

    If it can't fetch 4500 nib on the second hand market, used resale is not promising

    To the best of my knowledge, most modern loudspeakers don't hold resale value well in general -- the higher priced and more esoteric models seem to plummet even faster in value on the used market than do the massmarket/value priced models.

    Now... stuff like Altec and Tannoy and JBL and RCA... that stuff can be an investment vehicle. :)
  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,126
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Now... stuff like Altec and Tannoy and JBL and RCA... that stuff can be an investment vehicle. :)
    Better specify "old" JBL. They regularly do blowout sales, especially on the Studio lines. This is exactly like the Polk sales on the LSiM line. Those 40-60% sales direct from the manufacturer destroy any hope for a resale value for customers that jumped in early at full price.

    It'll be interested to see what this set goes for, and what happens with this line's price point in a couple years.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,926
    Wait, what?! There's JBL that's not old?
    I believe you're referring to Harman-era JBL ;)

    Yes, JBL blow-outs all the time:

    https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/jbl-studio-530’s-on-sale-now-for-299.892985/

    6n5o6ytrp02b.png

    ... although there is still some good (and expensive) componentry bearing that brand name.

    Let me know if you see a pair of these, e.g., blow-out priced, 'K? :#

    s2wlia4phz57.png

    (technically, the good JBL home/prosumer stuff is "JBL Synthesis" and is made, if memory serves, in Mexico rather than Asia)
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,926
    As an amusing aside/coda to this thread's actual topic, looking for some of the good (and less-good) JBL products, I was kind of surprised by Crutchfield's splash page of the moment. :|

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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,126
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Wait, what?! There's JBL that's not old?
    I believe you're referring to Harman-era JBL ;)

    Yes, JBL blow-outs all the time:

    https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/jbl-studio-530’s-on-sale-now-for-299.892985/

    6n5o6ytrp02b.png

    ... although there is still some good (and expensive) componentry bearing that brand name.

    Let me know if you see a pair of these, e.g., blow-out priced, 'K? :#

    s2wlia4phz57.png

    (technically, the good JBL home/prosumer stuff is "JBL Synthesis" and is made, if memory serves, in Mexico rather than Asia)
    In general the Synthesis stuff is an another league, but it all depends who the current VPs and sales directors are. The Studio 500 line that is now on blowout was originally introduced as the entry level to the JBL Synthesis line and it was kind of cross branded on normal JBL and JBL Synthesis.

    And they do still "blowout" the high-end stuff. It's just still crazy expensive even at blowout prices, lol.

    The K2 S9900 you referenced, currently 30% off. A $13K discount.
    Same for the flagship Everest DD67000. For those you get $22,500 off of list... but you're still shelling out $52.5K at the sale price.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    hA...lunch money for some of youz…. :)
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  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,101
    edited January 2020
    VR3 wrote: »
    Imo, this sale is important to the value of the L800.

    If it can't fetch 4500 nib on the second hand market, used resale is not promising

    Trey - I don't necessarily agree...

    They've only been listed for a couple weeks. It's the holidays. They have an extremely limited market.

    If this IS the person who won the pair during the raffle back in September in Harrisburg, I'm actually not surprised at the price. Even the fact that they are NIB, I'd expect them to be sold for less than the retail. Who would pay full price when you could get them direct from Polk, knowing 100% they are what they are, and that they carry the full warranty and support of Polk? Additionally (though I could be mistaken here), shipping from Polk is included in the price, and any damage when you get them would be taken care of promptly. Are you going to get that buying from a non-authorized seller? So, I'd expect a discount buying from some random person, even if they are 100% legitimate. Now, is a 25% discount appropriate? Who knows. With virtually no sales history (outside of authorized dealers) to base it on, it's a shot in the dark.

    I would think that maybe the seller really has no need for these and is hoping for a quick sale. These having such a small market, I'd think that they're a difficult sale, especially for pickup only. He's probably not wanting to be bothered with haggling, hanging on to them for months, and them taking up space.

    The way I see it, the seller obviously does not really promote this sale that well. If it were me, I'd be fully transparent and disclose that they were won directly from Polk in a raffle. I'd disclose the name of store where the demo was (and where they were won). I'd also share a little on what makes them so incredible, and worth the selling price. I'd probably start at a bit of a higher price (maybe in the range of $5000 - $5500), but not list it as "FIRM". Having to pick up such a large, awkward item certainly costs a few hundred more in your time, your back pain, and gas!

    SOOOOOOO... Even though I have zero affiliation with this sale, I don't think it's that fishy at all. I'd say if you are close, and had the L800s on your wish list, couldn't quite justify/swing the full price, but REALLY don't want to wait, a year, two years, ten years, whatever, until the prices drop, this might be a very good opportunity. I've never bought anything from Audiogon - is there any real risk in reaching out to the seller and asking some questions? Maybe get his number and talk directly? If not, what have you got to lose!?!

    ONE number away from winning, dang that sucks :'(

    "If" this is the case, I would imagine the seller would entertain a reasonable offer, being as he has no capital invested.

    Mike - It was a very cool event. Everyone through the door got a ticket. At the end of the night, they drew a ticket for an LG short throw projector, and another for a pair of L800s. I ALMOST missed the drawing. I was talking to a vendor in one of the theater rooms and noticed no one else was around. He said they must be going for the drawing. So, I made my way back to the car audio area (the store was HUGE) where they did the drawing. I walked in RIGHT as they called the number for the projector - I was not even close to the number.

    Then, the drew a number for the L800s - "2114248". They gave it a minute, and no one stepped up. So, they drew another number - "2114245". The winner nonchalantly walked up and handed over his ticket. Had I won, I don't think I would have been able to hide my excitement! As they were reading both tickets "2... 1... 1... 4... 2... 4..." my heart was racing waiting for that last digit to be called. SO freaking close, both times.

    Here was my ticket:

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  • Great story, thanks for sharing. I'm sorry you didn't win.
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Anyone reach out to the seller?
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD301 CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,926
    edited January 2020
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Wait, what?! There's JBL that's not old?
    I believe you're referring to Harman-era JBL ;)

    Yes, JBL blow-outs all the time:

    https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/jbl-studio-530’s-on-sale-now-for-299.892985/

    6n5o6ytrp02b.png

    ... although there is still some good (and expensive) componentry bearing that brand name.

    Let me know if you see a pair of these, e.g., blow-out priced, 'K? :#

    s2wlia4phz57.png

    (technically, the good JBL home/prosumer stuff is "JBL Synthesis" and is made, if memory serves, in Mexico rather than Asia)
    In general the Synthesis stuff is an another league, but it all depends who the current VPs and sales directors are. The Studio 500 line that is now on blowout was originally introduced as the entry level to the JBL Synthesis line and it was kind of cross branded on normal JBL and JBL Synthesis.
    Did not know that. The league it's in is pretty good, as opposed to some of the other modern JBL labeled products ;)
    And they do still "blowout" the high-end stuff. It's just still crazy expensive even at blowout prices, lol.

    The K2 S9900 you referenced, currently 30% off. A $13K discount.
    Same for the flagship Everest DD67000. For those you get $22,500 off of list... but you're still shelling out $52.5K at the sale price.

    Did not know that (didn't even think of checking). That is not insignificant!
    Thanks for that post/info.
    tonyb wrote: »
    hA...lunch money for some of youz…. :)

    Well... yeah... but Mrs. H gets suspicious when new speakers appear -- 'specially really large, really heavy ones. B)
  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    As an amusing aside/coda to this thread's actual topic, looking for some of the good (and less-good) JBL products, I was kind of surprised by Crutchfield's splash page of the moment. :|

    wvtspff3rq31.png

    Wow, I read RTi and was like, WT.... Is this 2007? Yeah, those are actually what we refer to as the RTiA Series. Crutchfield needs to wise up.
  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 475
    Yes these are the give away pair. Owner doesn’t have the space for them.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    mpitogo wrote: »
    Yes these are the give away pair. Owner doesn’t have the space for them.

    Wow! Thanks for finding out! Go get em PA Polkies! :smile:
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    Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,708
    ^ Beat me to it ^
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,926
    Perhaps... but I wasn't sure where to post it -- figured this thread wasn't a bad place...