polkL800 Audiogon $ 4500 Black ,new in box,never opened

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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    edited January 2020
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    Still up for sale. 1058 veiws (3 by verb) :smile:
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  • ptrooper
    ptrooper Posts: 501
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    Can't beleive they are still for sale!
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,094
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    People are waiting for the Adorama deals....
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  • Gerres26
    Gerres26 Posts: 862
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    It’s a big discount off of a new pair but $4500 is still a nice chunk of change to most people
  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,129
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    Gerres26 wrote: »
    It’s a big discount off of a new pair but $4500 is still a nice chunk of change to most people
    Plus it's not like it's the only solid option in that price point. I see the Devore O/93 listed around that same price point pretty regularly. I'm sure there are loads of other options as well.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,316
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    Well, we know the background of these speakers. If I were looking for a pair on the 'Gon and saw a brand new, unboxed, zero seller at substantially less $$$ than retail?

    I'd walk away and never look back. These are the typical types of yellow flags/red flags folks tend to turn away from based on personal and empirical evidence of things that typically go bad.

    Mike even commented (with good reason) that they were HOT. It's not like that wasn't the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw the ad....

    Tom
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  • Gerres26
    Gerres26 Posts: 862
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    I thought there was some confirmation that these were the pair given away at some event in PA, no?
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
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    Gerres26 wrote: »
    I thought there was some confirmation that these were the pair given away at some event in PA, no?

    I think the point Tom is conveying is that, the members of the Forum know their history, and why they are for sale.

    The prospective buyers that are not Forum members and don't know the history, would be sceptical to say the least.

  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,316
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    You would be correct. Thanks for clarifying, Mike.

    Tom
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,973
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    Gerres26 wrote: »
    It’s a big discount off of a new pair but $4500 is still a nice chunk of change to most people
    Plus it's not like it's the only solid option in that price point. I see the Devore O/93 listed around that same price point pretty regularly. I'm sure there are loads of other options as well.

    Yea if I’m on audiogon looking at used speakers there are plenty of 8-10k retail models available at similar prices. Add to that that these look like grey market speakers, and I would be very skeptical.

    I don’t know why the seller doesn’t just post that he won them at the raffle but wants the cash more than the speakers? That’s totally understandable and would go a long ways towards easing a lot of people’s minds...
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,367
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    I'd rather buy a new pair with warranty.
  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
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    Polk shouuld consider not discounting the L800 much st all. Keep it a unicorn because of how special the design is. Discount the crap out of the rest of the line!

  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,556
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    Emlyn wrote: »
    I'd rather buy a new pair with warranty.

    Why would you not have a warranty?
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,029
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    deronb1 wrote: »
    Polk should consider not discounting the L800 much st all. Keep it a unicorn because of how special the design is. Discount the crap out of the rest of the line!

    I'd suspect something like that would be their default strategy.
    Presumably, they (Polk/their corporate owners) will control inventory to the extent that, even if sales of the L800, in the worst-case scenario, would turn out (heaven forfend!) to be very slow with respect to their projections -- they could orchestrate the supply so that they wouldn't have a large surplus of unsold L800s to fire-sale.

    They could probably take their chances with the rest of the line.

    I will say, not entirely facetiously, that if they ever fire-sale the L200, I'd be quite interested. :)
  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,129
    edited January 2020
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    deronb1 wrote: »
    Polk shouuld consider not discounting the L800 much st all. Keep it a unicorn because of how special the design is. Discount the crap out of the rest of the line!
    Given Polk's ownership, I don't think the discount decision will come down to the design. They are owned by a holding company, who's sole mission is to create profits. If the L800 meets or exceeds sales goals, they won't discount it. But given the way of the world, if sales go up, sales goals go up. And once they miss the mark for a few consecutive quarters they look at a couple things. Discount and product life cycle. If the L800 misses sales targets before a replacement line is ready for production and release... we'll see discounts. Big companies live in a vicious cycle to some extent.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,029
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    deronb1 wrote: »
    Polk shouuld consider not discounting the L800 much st all. Keep it a unicorn because of how special the design is. Discount the crap out of the rest of the line!
    Given Polk's ownership, I don't think the discount decision will come down to the design. They are owned by a holding company, who's sole mission is to create profits. If the L800 meets or exceeds sales goals, they won't discount it. But given the way of the world, if sales go up, sales goals go up. And once they miss the mark for a few consecutive quarters they look at a couple things. Discount and product life cycle. If the L800 misses sales targets before a replacement line is ready for production and release... we'll see discounts. Big companies live in a vicious cycle to some extent.

    Hey, you all know what a cockeyed optimist I am!

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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
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    deronb1 wrote: »
    Polk shouuld consider not discounting the L800 much st all. Keep it a unicorn because of how special the design is. Discount the crap out of the rest of the line!
    Given Polk's ownership, I don't think the discount decision will come down to the design. They are owned by a holding company, who's sole mission is to create profits. If the L800 meets or exceeds sales goals, they won't discount it. But given the way of the world, if sales go up, sales goals go up. And once they miss the mark for a few consecutive quarters they look at a couple things. Discount and product life cycle. If the L800 misses sales targets before a replacement line is ready for production and release... we'll see discounts. Big companies live in a vicious cycle to some extent.

    Don't I know it! :smile: Premium brands or products are seldom discounted, IMO. If that is their strategy, to maintain the price point for the flagship. We'll see if sales don't meet expectations, gotta keep the assembly plant open, etc., there may be a discount. Ya never know.

    Does anyone know how the sales are going?
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,367
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Emlyn wrote: »
    I'd rather buy a new pair with warranty.

    Why would you not have a warranty?

    Polk's five year speaker warranty ends on transfer to a second owner. Old Polk may have honored warranty repairs for a second owner of a dealer sourced pair anyway, but I doubt the new corporate mentality would go beyond the specific warranty wording requirements.

  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,316
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    Emlyn, not only that, Polk has always required a receipt of proof of purchase. Well, the current owner didn't purchase them, so they may not have the receipt. No receipt? No warranty.

    Tom
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  • dolbyd
    dolbyd Posts: 430
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    Upscale audio is now selling them too. Kevin loves them.

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  • displayname
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    dolbyd wrote: »
    Upscale audio is now selling them too. Kevin loves them.

    https://youtu.be/sNzgAnRFI10

    Kevin also points out regularly that "you'll never read a bad review."
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,662
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    Kevin is a piece of work. Just a heads up.
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,662
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    la2vegas wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Kevin is a piece of work. Just a heads up.

    Is "work" the word you wanted to use?

    No! Just being nice.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,094
    edited January 2020
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    la2vegas wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    la2vegas wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    Kevin is a piece of work. Just a heads up.

    Is "work" the word you wanted to use?

    No! Just being nice.

    Point made.

    We use the same word when we think about you... :p

    Post edited by nooshinjohn on
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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 6,679
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    dolbyd wrote: »
    Upscale audio is now selling them too. Kevin loves them.

    I wouldn't want to.....deal with him.
  • displayname
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    Sorry, didn't mean to shift this into an anti Kevin Deal train. I've never done business with him so I can't say how he'd be, but I know a few people who have been very happy working with upscale in the past. I was simply pointing out that he always says to take reviews with a grain of salt, even in his rave reviews.

    I will say I was surprised when I emailed upscale and I got a response from Kevin and also talked to him on the phone. I wasn't really expecting that. His energy level was very high, but he was polite and consistent with what I've seen in his videos. No bad blood here. But I did ultimately go another way.
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  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,204
    edited January 2020
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    If anyone ever has any issues with a purchase from Upscale Audio, ask for Tamara. She's customer service at its best.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,029
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    F1nut wrote: »
    dolbyd wrote: »
    Upscale audio is now selling them too. Kevin loves them.

    https://youtu.be/sNzgAnRFI10

    I think it's a good thing for Polk that Upscale is selling them. Say what you want about Mr. Deal, but he doesn't sell gear he doesn't believe in.

    FWIW, I would agree. It shouldn't be a bad thing for Polk to be associated with him/them.
  • Mike Reeter
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    There's one thing for sure, Uncle Kevie is passonate about his wares. I kinda enjoy watching his videos, just for entertainment value :D