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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2019
    jdavid wrote: »
    And I assume that the PC2000 is not too much for my 8x 15 room ( which does have an opening on one side, an open archway to living room) with sig 30 center and 20 left and right, and 10 or 15 surrounds, and possible ceiling MC60 atmos (but not sure if room too small).

    Room is never to small for big subs, never too much bass, so a wall falls down you know the bass works :)

    My wife was like WTF when I got the VTF2, she complained till the first movie. When your system sounds better than a theater she might like it. A VTF2 is not that big.

    Oh and add at least one set of ATMOS speakers. All you need to get more of the experience.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,213
    mrloren wrote: »
    jdavid wrote: »
    And I assume that the PC2000 is not too much for my 8x 15 room ( which does have an opening on one side, an open archway to living room) with sig 30 center and 20 left and right, and 10 or 15 surrounds, and possible ceiling MC60 atmos (but not sure if room too small).

    Room is never to small for big subs, never too much bass, so a wall falls down you know the bass works :)

    My wife was like WTF when I got the VTF2, she complained till the first movie. When your system sounds better than a theater she might like it. A VTF2 is not that big.

    Oh and add at least one set of ATMOS speakers. All you need to get more of the experience.

    U mean vtf3 right?
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2019
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    mrloren wrote: »
    jdavid wrote: »
    And I assume that the PC2000 is not too much for my 8x 15 room ( which does have an opening on one side, an open archway to living room) with sig 30 center and 20 left and right, and 10 or 15 surrounds, and possible ceiling MC60 atmos (but not sure if room too small).

    Room is never to small for big subs, never too much bass, so a wall falls down you know the bass works :)

    My wife was like WTF when I got the VTF2, she complained till the first movie. When your system sounds better than a theater she might like it. A VTF2 is not that big.

    Oh and add at least one set of ATMOS speakers. All you need to get more of the experience.

    U mean vtf3 right?

    I went from STF2 to a VTF2-MK2 to now a VTF3-MK5. The size difference from the STF2 to the VTF2 was a "what the heck is that". one good movie and it was all good. I think it was Titanic, might be a chick flick but there some good audio and when the ship breaks up.

    That's the thing about WAF, first movie has to be one they like

    Oh and my friend that bought the VTF2 from me, his wife was the same WTF till he played a movie.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • jdavid
    jdavid Posts: 46
    Learning a lot on this forum now decided on sig 30 and 20 over front and center and probably PC 2000 ( and s 10 or 15 surrounds) . Not decided on whether to add ceiling Atmos yet I tend to consult with installer on site.
    Next is receiver!
    Realizing Denon 4500 is step up from 3600 but curious about differences in features.
    From initial look appears 4500 has (and 3600 does not): AL32 processing with bass sync and Auro 3D but 3600 has ( and 4500 does not) : Dolby Atmos Height and HDCP 2.3 ( not significant as far as I understand). Both have Dolby Vision and IMAX enhanced and eARC, and others all similar I think.
    Looking for now just at features and without knowing future firmware updates -
    ( will probably keep whatever I buy
    What is the view on the significance of the different features and did I miss any?
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,213
    If you can swing it go with the 4500.

    Sounds like an awesome setup!!
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • jdavid
    jdavid Posts: 46
    Left out - will probably keep whatever I buy for some time.
  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,382
    I 2nd going for the 4500

    Here is the 31lb 4500
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    and the 26lb 3600
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    Most of the weight increase is power supply

    We watched the new Spider man last night, Yes add a pair of ATMOS speakers

    One thing over looked is the speaker cable. Please use a decent cable like Monoprice for inwall
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • jdavid
    jdavid Posts: 46
    Rethinking signature center channel selection , had decided onS30 but just saw that Brent Butterworth who wrote the Wirecutter rave review first choice selection of Signature HT system (S15 30 and 10 system) just stated in his comments/answers to questions to the article his opinion:

    That 3 S15s would be better than 2 S15s and S35 ( he had previously noted he thought S30 probably slightly preferable to S35) . Since I am getting S20s this would mean 3 S20s with one for center. Has anybody tried 3 S20s or 3 S15s up front??
  • jdavid
    jdavid Posts: 46
    I should add the questioner included links to several notable articles by recognized sources in favor of this including Audioholics, and two names that sound familiar to me Darryl Wilkinson and Mark Fleischmann.
  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    Most people, not all,will say that matching the front three speakers is the best option.

    The problem is that either people don’t have room or it will be visually unpleasant. Placing a 40 inch tall speaker under a tv in the living room could strain a considerable number of relationships.

  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,213
    rpf65 wrote: »
    The problem is that either people don’t have room or it will be visually unpleasant. Placing a 40 inch tall speaker under a tv in the living room could strain a considerable number of relationships.

    How many significant others do you have?!?
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    None. A woman would be an idiot to consider being in a relationship with me. I really can’t bring my self to respect idiots.
  • jdavid
    jdavid Posts: 46
    Yes, as to the center channel in my case using a vertical bookshelf S20 the question is can a 65 oled be above it without th eTV being too high?

    And if it cannot be done what would be better —an S20 above the TV angled down or using a S30 placed at same tweeter level as left and right S20s?
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,307
    An S20 is going to be too big as a center, height wise. The S30 is the better option and the tweeters in the center do not have to match the height of the tweeters in the left or right speakers.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • jdavid
    jdavid Posts: 46
    Looking for several suggestions for speaker stands for S20. Someone mentioned Skylan , which seem a little pricey. What other brands have others used or suggest.
  • jdavid
    jdavid Posts: 46
    Just as a fall back also any suggestions for wall mounts too.
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,213
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,101
    edited November 2019
    jdavid wrote: »
    Just as a fall back also any suggestions for wall mounts too.

    The B-Tech BT77 are some stout mounts. My wife has stood up into the one surround speaker a few times. Her noggin looses every time...
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,989
    edited November 2019
    Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
    Audio: PS Audio DirectStream Jr. * Belles 20a * Pass Aleph 30 - Zu Omen DW * Sunfire Sig II - Polk SRS 2.3tl * PSAudio PP3 * MIT S3
    Den: Sonore ultraRendu * Cary xCiter * Dayens Menuetto * KEF LS50
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,989
    I ordered these refurbished S15's for a tiny bedroom rig.
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    They had little red info toppers that a store display would have, but still had plastic protection film on baffles and were spotless. Well built and imo attractively styled. Love the ability to easily hang on the wall.

    I hooked up in den and played a new-to-me electronic cut, "Endless Summer" by The Midnight then moved on to regular demo cuts. There was nothing really good that stood out about the sound except the soundstage width - it extended a few degrees outside the speakers. Mushy low range, thin piano (well, thin everything), not terribly detailed (seemed weird given the ss width), elements bleeding into one another without space between them. Figured they needed to loosen up; so I looped a break-in track and went to bed.

    This morning I was most interested to see if piano keys sounded any better. Put on OP's "We Get Requests". Not sure if it was the little break-in period or the "morning effect" or both, but they sounded TONS better - like a completely different speaker. Rounder, more colorful keys, tighter double bass & drums, more coherent, increased depth - but most of all - engaging. Still not extremely detailed and not a lot of space between players, but excellent width and fun to listen to.

    Unbelievable value and very listenable. Keepers!

    qdhej4gbjfpj.jpg
    Study: Roon * ProJect Stream Box Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354
    Audio: PS Audio DirectStream Jr. * Belles 20a * Pass Aleph 30 - Zu Omen DW * Sunfire Sig II - Polk SRS 2.3tl * PSAudio PP3 * MIT S3
    Den: Sonore ultraRendu * Cary xCiter * Dayens Menuetto * KEF LS50
  • jdavid
    jdavid Posts: 46
    What has been the experience for S20s ( or even S15s) for minimum distance from wall behind them and from side walls. Welcome collective thoughts.
  • msg
    msg Posts: 6,542
    MGinOttawa wrote: »
    I suspect for those who play mostly music and not at insane levels, or requiring subterranean bass depths the Polks (referring to the subwoofer conversation) could do quite well. I just put some Blu-tak as speaker feet and it does really seem to help tighten up things and likely even sharpened the focus of the S15s. Maybe placebo, but whatever. Listening to some Keb Mo at a pretty decent volume and it's all nice and tight.
    Cool setup. Which components are those you're running in this system?

    If you liked the Blu-tak, you'll probably really enjoy getting some acoustic foam monitor pads. Probably the best bang-for-buck improvement I've made in tabletop/desktop setups. Create adjustable angles, or set up flat if you like.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078PQ7TLD
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  • jimbomalta
    jimbomalta Posts: 0
    Hi All i just ordered Polk home cinema set-up consists of the following.

    1x HTS12,
    2x S60
    2 x s10(cinema surround)
    plus an additional 2x S20 for far rear end of room to transform the room into more music focus. ( not for cinema but for music in games area of the room
    1x Denon AVR-X2700H

    my QUESTION, I need some strong wall brackets for the S10 and if anyone managed to wall mount the S20,...as i do not have the option to put em on floor stands.

    by the way the games/cinema room is 10.5m (34.5 feet) long and 6 m wide (19.5 feet), from the 34 feet, half of it (20 feet) will be a games area and the other half a cinema area (14.5 feet)

    what do you think about the setup?

    keen to hear back your comments this is my very first proper home cinema project. i am installing the Adeo 3m wide screen.