I've got no problem with large loudspeakers, but some of those old SDAs just have/had ...
too many drivers
The idea back then was to use several low cost drivers, and hopefully equal one much larger more expensive woofer.
But lobing and dispersion issues were not at the top of the agenda back then nor as well thought out.
Ive had people see our "Big" sdas and ask why 8 small woofers, instead of maybe 2 10" woofers......not sure, maybe they got a better deal on bulk 6.5" woofers...
Another clueless post from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about....
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 505 SACD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
Another clueless post from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about....
Worth repeating!
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
I've got no problem with large loudspeakers, but some of those old SDAs just have/had ...
too many drivers
The idea back then was to use several low cost drivers, and hopefully equal one much larger more expensive woofer.
But lobing and dispersion issues were not at the top of the agenda back then nor as well thought out.
Ive had people see our "Big" sdas and ask why 8 small woofers, instead of maybe 2 10" woofers......not sure, maybe they got a better deal on bulk 6.5" woofers...
Another clueless post from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about....
Maybe, but at least have the decency to discuss what you think is in error.
Making a personal attack, makes you look petty and lacking in any real information what would agree/disagree with what I said.
In other words, you are simply TROLLING.......for an argument.
Step it up some and try to put your thoughts into sentences.
Otherwise, you look like you have no real point...
Yes, but Polk did not implement ways to reduce or eliminate those effects till years later.
For instance the RTA11t, both midwoofers operate up to the same frequency and are above and below the tweeter
In the SDA models, I do not believe it was a huge concern the placement of drivers and so on.
Another clueless post from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about....
Worth repeating!
I really thought you were going to discuss the topic at hand, but instead???
Every time you enter a thread and are asked for information/details you disappear, so there's no point in discussing anything with you. Hit and run, it's your MO and everyone here knows it. Go play the victim somewhere else.
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
I've got no problem with large loudspeakers, but some of those old SDAs just have/had ...
too many drivers
The idea back then was to use several low cost drivers, and hopefully equal one much larger more expensive woofer.
But lobing and dispersion issues were not at the top of the agenda back then nor as well thought out.
Ive had people see our "Big" sdas and ask why 8 small woofers, instead of maybe 2 10" woofers......not sure, maybe they got a better deal on bulk 6.5" woofers...
Another clueless post from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about....
Maybe, but at least have the decency to discuss what you think is in error.
Making a personal attack, makes you look petty and lacking in any real information what would agree/disagree with what I said.
In other words, you are simply TROLLING.......for an argument.
Step it up some and try to put your thoughts into sentences.
Otherwise, you look like you have no real point...
The reason they chose 6.5" midwoofers is because they were after the specific goal of eliminating intra-aural crosstalk so they could vastly improve stereo sound reproduction... I trust you have read the white paper on it so I will not post it here. They chose the very best driver size they could for achieving their goal. The doped paper cone was and still is one of the best drivers ever made. They are light, fast, articulate and durable. They are capable of being both exceptionally delicate and detailed and forceful at the same moment.
Ten inch speakers are not capable of the speed, control or frequency response needed to accomplish this. Further, a pair of 10" drivers, placed in an SDA configuration would have made the speakers 30 inches wide.
It would be you that is trolling when you continue to disparage and dismiss a speaker you clearly do not understand or appreciate by saying such incredibly stupid things and expecting a free pass. Your statements about SDA's are nearly always wrong. You state you uninformed opinion as if they should be regarded as fact and they cry wolf when those of us that actually know what we are talking about speak up.
My comments are meant to inform someone new to this forum, or to SDA, that you are not a person that should be listened to in regards to anything having to do with these speakers, and perhaps audio in general.
For a very long time, many members, myself and Jesse included, have tried to help you understand, yet you not only refuse to take any sort of advice, suggestion or input, you continue your crusade to disparage and diminish what you do not comprehend. Your contribution to the understanding of SDA is useless, and your continued presence talking about them is pointless. And as for your reply to this... don't bother because I wont be seeing it.
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The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 505 SACD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
The reason they chose 6.5" midwoofers is because they were after the specific goal of eliminating intra-aural crosstalk so they could vastly improve stereo sound reproduction... I trust you have read the white paper on it so I will not post it here. They chose the very best driver size they could for achieving their goal. The doped paper cone was and still is one of the best drivers ever made. They are light, fast, articulate and durable. They are capable of being both exceptionally delicate and detailed and forceful at the same moment.
Ten inch speakers are not capable of the speed, control or frequency response needed to accomplish this. Further, a pair of 10" drivers, placed in an SDA configuration would have made the speakers 30 inches wide.
It would be you that is trolling when you continue to disparage and dismiss a speaker you clearly do not understand or appreciate by saying such incredibly stupid things and expecting a free pass. Your statements about SDA's are nearly always wrong. You state you uninformed opinion as if they should be regarded as fact and they cry wolf when those of us that actually know what we are talking about speak up.
My comments are meant to inform someone new to this forum, or to SDA, that you are not a person that should be listened to in regards to anything having to do with these speakers, and perhaps audio in general.
For a very long time, many members, myself and Jesse included, have tried to help you understand, yet you not only refuse to take any sort of advice, suggestion or input, you continue your crusade to disparage and diminish what you do not comprehend. Your contribution to the understanding of SDA is useless, and your continued presence talking about them is pointless. And as for your reply to this... don't bother because I wont be seeing it.
Thank you John! What an eloquent response! Too bad there isn't an all in one button that includes "Like", "Agree", and "Insightful".
Cambridge Audio 851N Streamer/DAC
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
I've got no problem with large loudspeakers, but some of those old SDAs just have/had ...
too many drivers
The idea back then was to use several low cost drivers, and hopefully equal one much larger more expensive woofer.
But lobing and dispersion issues were not at the top of the agenda back then nor as well thought out.
Ive had people see our "Big" sdas and ask why 8 small woofers, instead of maybe 2 10" woofers......not sure, maybe they got a better deal on bulk 6.5" woofers...
Another clueless post from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about....
Maybe, but at least have the decency to discuss what you think is in error.
Making a personal attack, makes you look petty and lacking in any real information what would agree/disagree with what I said.
In other words, you are simply TROLLING.......for an argument.
Step it up some and try to put your thoughts into sentences.
Otherwise, you look like you have no real point...
The reason they chose 6.5" midwoofers is because they were after the specific goal of eliminating intra-aural crosstalk so they could vastly improve stereo sound reproduction... I trust you have read the white paper on it so I will not post it here. They chose the very best driver size they could for achieving their goal. The doped paper cone was and still is one of the best drivers ever made. They are light, fast, articulate and durable. They are capable of being both exceptionally delicate and detailed and forceful at the same moment.
Ten inch speakers are not capable of the speed, control or frequency response needed to accomplish this. Further, a pair of 10" drivers, placed in an SDA configuration would have made the speakers 30 inches wide.
It would be you that is trolling when you continue to disparage and dismiss a speaker you clearly do not understand or appreciate by saying such incredibly stupid things and expecting a free pass. Your statements about SDA's are nearly always wrong. You state you uninformed opinion as if they should be regarded as fact and they cry wolf when those of us that actually know what we are talking about speak up.
My comments are meant to inform someone new to this forum, or to SDA, that you are not a person that should be listened to in regards to anything having to do with these speakers, and perhaps audio in general.
For a very long time, many members, myself and Jesse included, have tried to help you understand, yet you not only refuse to take any sort of advice, suggestion or input, you continue your crusade to disparage and diminish what you do not comprehend. Your contribution to the understanding of SDA is useless, and your continued presence talking about them is pointless. And as for your reply to this... don't bother because I wont be seeing it.
You are unable to accept disagreement.
Some advice.......
A Forum such as this is going to ALWAYS have disagreement, people that love and hate things, and many that will think you are wrong, are clueless and so on, and some that will agree with anything you say, no matter right or wrong.
That is how the online world works.
You and Jesse have not cornered the market for knowing everything.
I know for certain, MANY things you and he say are wrong.
The difference, I do not get all bent out of shape, and call you guys names, and call you trolls and so on.
Learn to accept disagreement, There is going to be a lot more in your life.
Thinking you are right about everything, will never make you happy!
When are these shipping again? Nov 1st? I see in the dealer network there are in-store demo but will they all have the L800? In the case of World Wide Stereo, I'm thinking they would since this is a high end shop which demos speakers costing 10x as much as the L800. If I like them I'll pick up a pair.
Living Room Music-2.0 Polk Legend L800 | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Marantz HD-CD1 | Denafrips Aries II | Amazon Music Ultra HD via iPad Pro Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSiM 707, 706c, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, LSiM 702 F/X [x4], RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | Marantz PM-10 [FL/FR] | Marantz SA-10 | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV 4K | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K Office Home Theater-5.1 Polk RT55, CS400, PSW450, f/x 500 | Onkyo TX-SR705 | AppleTV | Samsung 55” Office Music-2.0 KEF Q100 | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080 Office Music 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | Topping DX7s (BAL out) | PASS ACA (kit) Class A balanced monoblocks Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Rotel RA-1570 Patio Music-2.0 Polk Atrium8 | AMC 2445 bridged Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Family Room SA-10 (optical), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Office DX7s (optical), Living Room Ares (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). Apple Music multi-stream to any, combo or all. Spares: Polk LSi25, LSiC, CS300, 4pr T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, 50xt, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500, Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
The reason they chose 6.5" midwoofers is because they were after the specific goal of eliminating intra-aural crosstalk so they could vastly improve stereo sound reproduction... I trust you have read the white paper on it so I will not post it here. They chose the very best driver size they could for achieving their goal. The doped paper cone was and still is one of the best drivers ever made. They are light, fast, articulate and durable. They are capable of being both exceptionally delicate and detailed and forceful at the same moment.
Ten inch speakers are not capable of the speed, control or frequency response needed to accomplish this. Further, a pair of 10" drivers, placed in an SDA configuration would have made the speakers 30 inches wide.
It would be you that is trolling when you continue to disparage and dismiss a speaker you clearly do not understand or appreciate by saying such incredibly stupid things and expecting a free pass. Your statements about SDA's are nearly always wrong. You state you uninformed opinion as if they should be regarded as fact and they cry wolf when those of us that actually know what we are talking about speak up.
My comments are meant to inform someone new to this forum, or to SDA, that you are not a person that should be listened to in regards to anything having to do with these speakers, and perhaps audio in general.
For a very long time, many members, myself and Jesse included, have tried to help you understand, yet you not only refuse to take any sort of advice, suggestion or input, you continue your crusade to disparage and diminish what you do not comprehend. Your contribution to the understanding of SDA is useless, and your continued presence talking about them is pointless. And as for your reply to this... don't bother because I wont be seeing it.
Thank you John! What an eloquent response! Too bad there isn't an all in one button that includes "Like", "Agree", and "Insightful".
Yeah maybe, too bad you lack the backbone to call them out, when they act like utter jerks and call people names and so on.
Are you too scared to mention that, or do you feel obligated to only kiss up when required?
The reason they chose 6.5" midwoofers is because they were after the specific goal of eliminating intra-aural crosstalk so they could vastly improve stereo sound reproduction... I trust you have read the white paper on it so I will not post it here. They chose the very best driver size they could for achieving their goal. The doped paper cone was and still is one of the best drivers ever made. They are light, fast, articulate and durable. They are capable of being both exceptionally delicate and detailed and forceful at the same moment.
Ten inch speakers are not capable of the speed, control or frequency response needed to accomplish this. Further, a pair of 10" drivers, placed in an SDA configuration would have made the speakers 30 inches wide.
It would be you that is trolling when you continue to disparage and dismiss a speaker you clearly do not understand or appreciate by saying such incredibly stupid things and expecting a free pass. Your statements about SDA's are nearly always wrong. You state you uninformed opinion as if they should be regarded as fact and they cry wolf when those of us that actually know what we are talking about speak up.
My comments are meant to inform someone new to this forum, or to SDA, that you are not a person that should be listened to in regards to anything having to do with these speakers, and perhaps audio in general.
For a very long time, many members, myself and Jesse included, have tried to help you understand, yet you not only refuse to take any sort of advice, suggestion or input, you continue your crusade to disparage and diminish what you do not comprehend. Your contribution to the understanding of SDA is useless, and your continued presence talking about them is pointless. And as for your reply to this... don't bother because I wont be seeing it.
Thank you John! What an eloquent response! Too bad there isn't an all in one button that includes "Like", "Agree", and "Insightful".
Yeah maybe, too bad you lack the backbone to call them out, when they act like utter jerks and call people names and so on.
Are you too scared to mention that, or do you feel obligated to only kiss up when required?
My my, they are twisted today.....LOL
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
I've got no problem with large loudspeakers, but some of those old SDAs just have/had ...
too many drivers
The idea back then was to use several low cost drivers, and hopefully equal one much larger more expensive woofer.
But lobing and dispersion issues were not at the top of the agenda back then nor as well thought out.
Ive had people see our "Big" sdas and ask why 8 small woofers, instead of maybe 2 10" woofers......not sure, maybe they got a better deal on bulk 6.5" woofers...
Another clueless post from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about....
Maybe, but at least have the decency to discuss what you think is in error.
Making a personal attack, makes you look petty and lacking in any real information what would agree/disagree with what I said.
In other words, you are simply TROLLING.......for an argument.
Step it up some and try to put your thoughts into sentences.
Otherwise, you look like you have no real point...
The reason they chose 6.5" midwoofers is because they were after the specific goal of eliminating intra-aural crosstalk so they could vastly improve stereo sound reproduction... I trust you have read the white paper on it so I will not post it here. They chose the very best driver size they could for achieving their goal. The doped paper cone was and still is one of the best drivers ever made. They are light, fast, articulate and durable. They are capable of being both exceptionally delicate and detailed and forceful at the same moment.
Ten inch speakers are not capable of the speed, control or frequency response needed to accomplish this. Further, a pair of 10" drivers, placed in an SDA configuration would have made the speakers 30 inches wide.
It would be you that is trolling when you continue to disparage and dismiss a speaker you clearly do not understand or appreciate by saying such incredibly stupid things and expecting a free pass. Your statements about SDA's are nearly always wrong. You state you uninformed opinion as if they should be regarded as fact and they cry wolf when those of us that actually know what we are talking about speak up.
My comments are meant to inform someone new to this forum, or to SDA, that you are not a person that should be listened to in regards to anything having to do with these speakers, and perhaps audio in general.
For a very long time, many members, myself and Jesse included, have tried to help you understand, yet you not only refuse to take any sort of advice, suggestion or input, you continue your crusade to disparage and diminish what you do not comprehend. Your contribution to the understanding of SDA is useless, and your continued presence talking about them is pointless. And as for your reply to this... don't bother because I wont be seeing it.
You are unable to accept disagreement.
Some advice.......
A Forum such as this is going to ALWAYS have disagreement, people that love and hate things, and many that will think you are wrong, are clueless and so on, and some that will agree with anything you say, no matter right or wrong.
That is how the online world works.
You and Jesse have not cornered the market for knowing everything.
I know for certain, MANY things you and he say are wrong.
The difference, I do not get all bent out of shape, and call you guys names, and call you trolls and so on.
Learn to accept disagreement, There is going to be a lot more in your life.
Thinking you are right about everything, will never make you happy!
Have a great day!!
And yet you stated that he was trolling in this very thread.
In other words, you are simply TROLLING.......for an argument.
Step it up some and try to put your thoughts into sentences.
Otherwise, you look like you have no real point...
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
Yeah, but what about RTA-12Bs and C's implementing a way to reduce lobing with the side by side driver arrangement.
Also, facts can't be disagreed. It's not like I can say 1+1 is 3 and you just have to accept that we disagree.
My point was in reference to "some" of the older Polks, in comparison to the new SDA iteration.
I meant a lot has been learned/implemented in those intervening years.
In later models employing multiple small woofers, the upper range of one was limited intentionally by the crossover, such as in the Lsi 15 and Lsi 25 among others.
Part of this was for reasons relating to BSC and part for reduced lobing and to maintain a more specific point for sound source localizations.
@K_M I agree, I was shopping around and saw the online only retailers, landing on crutchfield had me do a double take. I knew they where 6k a pair not 6k ea.... matching pair.
I know nothing of SDA other than pictures.
Living Room Music-2.0 Polk Legend L800 | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Marantz HD-CD1 | Denafrips Aries II | Amazon Music Ultra HD via iPad Pro Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSiM 707, 706c, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, LSiM 702 F/X [x4], RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | Marantz PM-10 [FL/FR] | Marantz SA-10 | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV 4K | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K Office Home Theater-5.1 Polk RT55, CS400, PSW450, f/x 500 | Onkyo TX-SR705 | AppleTV | Samsung 55” Office Music-2.0 KEF Q100 | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080 Office Music 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | Topping DX7s (BAL out) | PASS ACA (kit) Class A balanced monoblocks Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Rotel RA-1570 Patio Music-2.0 Polk Atrium8 | AMC 2445 bridged Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Family Room SA-10 (optical), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Office DX7s (optical), Living Room Ares (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). Apple Music multi-stream to any, combo or all. Spares: Polk LSi25, LSiC, CS300, 4pr T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, 50xt, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500, Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
It clearly states matched pair in the heading, so each matched pair is $5999.98.
Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
It clearly states matched pair in the heading, so each matched pair is $5999.98.
For sure it does, one should read before buying $6K speakers. Buying a pair is assumed, yet I think listing as a Left/Right PAIR beside the price makes the most sense to everyone.
However, I'm sure companies enter these in a way that fits their current database structure. I'm surprised POLK lists them as each with no obvious Left/Right pair designation beside the price.
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Another clueless post from someone that doesn’t know what they are talking about....
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
Worth repeating!
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
Maybe, but at least have the decency to discuss what you think is in error.
Making a personal attack, makes you look petty and lacking in any real information what would agree/disagree with what I said.
In other words, you are simply TROLLING.......for an argument.
Step it up some and try to put your thoughts into sentences.
Otherwise, you look like you have no real point...
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
I really thought you were going to discuss the topic at hand, but instead???
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
http://www.nasonline.org/publications/biographical-memoirs/memoir-pdfs/olson-harry.pdf
http://cyrille.pinton.free.fr/electroac/lectures_utiles/son/Olson.pdf
Yes, but Polk did not implement ways to reduce or eliminate those effects till years later.
For instance the RTA11t, both midwoofers operate up to the same frequency and are above and below the tweeter
In the SDA models, I do not believe it was a huge concern the placement of drivers and so on.
But still great point!
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
Years later from when?
Village Idiot of Club Polk
Every time you enter a thread and are asked for information/details you disappear, so there's no point in discussing anything with you. Hit and run, it's your MO and everyone here knows it. Go play the victim somewhere else.
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
I disabled, I am the South Carolina woman who gouged her eyes out on meth.
set.
and match.
Actually, all three of the above at least claim to be intelligently designed.
I have my doubts about the Tektons, but that's just me
I reject "Intelligent Design" based on what's on top of the food chain, but that's for another discussion I guess.
I do find those speakers titillating yet disturbing.
I disabled, I am the South Carolina woman who gouged her eyes out on meth.
Turn it over?
I disabled, I am the South Carolina woman who gouged her eyes out on meth.
Where'd you go? I didn't even get to tell you about the RTA-12B's and C's.
Village Idiot of Club Polk
The reason they chose 6.5" midwoofers is because they were after the specific goal of eliminating intra-aural crosstalk so they could vastly improve stereo sound reproduction... I trust you have read the white paper on it so I will not post it here. They chose the very best driver size they could for achieving their goal. The doped paper cone was and still is one of the best drivers ever made. They are light, fast, articulate and durable. They are capable of being both exceptionally delicate and detailed and forceful at the same moment.
Ten inch speakers are not capable of the speed, control or frequency response needed to accomplish this. Further, a pair of 10" drivers, placed in an SDA configuration would have made the speakers 30 inches wide.
It would be you that is trolling when you continue to disparage and dismiss a speaker you clearly do not understand or appreciate by saying such incredibly stupid things and expecting a free pass. Your statements about SDA's are nearly always wrong. You state you uninformed opinion as if they should be regarded as fact and they cry wolf when those of us that actually know what we are talking about speak up.
My comments are meant to inform someone new to this forum, or to SDA, that you are not a person that should be listened to in regards to anything having to do with these speakers, and perhaps audio in general.
For a very long time, many members, myself and Jesse included, have tried to help you understand, yet you not only refuse to take any sort of advice, suggestion or input, you continue your crusade to disparage and diminish what you do not comprehend. Your contribution to the understanding of SDA is useless, and your continued presence talking about them is pointless. And as for your reply to this... don't bother because I wont be seeing it.
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
Thank you John! What an eloquent response! Too bad there isn't an all in one button that includes "Like", "Agree", and "Insightful".
Belles 21A Pre modded with Mundorf Supreme caps
B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
Polk SDA 1C's modded
Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
You are unable to accept disagreement.
Some advice.......
A Forum such as this is going to ALWAYS have disagreement, people that love and hate things, and many that will think you are wrong, are clueless and so on, and some that will agree with anything you say, no matter right or wrong.
That is how the online world works.
You and Jesse have not cornered the market for knowing everything.
I know for certain, MANY things you and he say are wrong.
The difference, I do not get all bent out of shape, and call you guys names, and call you trolls and so on.
Learn to accept disagreement, There is going to be a lot more in your life.
Thinking you are right about everything, will never make you happy!
Have a great day!!
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSiM 707, 706c, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, LSiM 702 F/X [x4], RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | Marantz PM-10 [FL/FR] | Marantz SA-10 | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV 4K | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K
Office Home Theater-5.1 Polk RT55, CS400, PSW450, f/x 500 | Onkyo TX-SR705 | AppleTV | Samsung 55”
Office Music-2.0 KEF Q100 | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080
Office Music 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | Topping DX7s (BAL out) | PASS ACA (kit) Class A balanced monoblocks
Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Rotel RA-1570
Patio Music-2.0 Polk Atrium8 | AMC 2445 bridged
Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Family Room SA-10 (optical), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Office DX7s (optical), Living Room Ares (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). Apple Music multi-stream to any, combo or all.
Spares: Polk LSi25, LSiC, CS300, 4pr T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, 50xt, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500,
Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
Yeah maybe, too bad you lack the backbone to call them out, when they act like utter jerks and call people names and so on.
Are you too scared to mention that, or do you feel obligated to only kiss up when required?
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
Also, facts can't be disagreed. It's not like I can say 1+1 is 3 and you just have to accept that we disagree.
Village Idiot of Club Polk
My my, they are twisted today.....LOL
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
And yet you stated that he was trolling in this very thread.
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
My point was in reference to "some" of the older Polks, in comparison to the new SDA iteration.
I meant a lot has been learned/implemented in those intervening years.
In later models employing multiple small woofers, the upper range of one was limited intentionally by the crossover, such as in the Lsi 15 and Lsi 25 among others.
Part of this was for reasons relating to BSC and part for reduced lobing and to maintain a more specific point for sound source localizations.
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
We are thinking about maybe doing the L600 (SDA is not important to me) but see the L800 are listed as "Each" in crutchfield for approx 6K dollars..
Think that will confuse many as they mean "Each Pair", but each....to most means ONE of something.
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
I know nothing of SDA other than pictures.
Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSiM 707, 706c, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, LSiM 702 F/X [x4], RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | Marantz PM-10 [FL/FR] | Marantz SA-10 | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV 4K | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K
Office Home Theater-5.1 Polk RT55, CS400, PSW450, f/x 500 | Onkyo TX-SR705 | AppleTV | Samsung 55”
Office Music-2.0 KEF Q100 | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080
Office Music 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | Topping DX7s (BAL out) | PASS ACA (kit) Class A balanced monoblocks
Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Rotel RA-1570
Patio Music-2.0 Polk Atrium8 | AMC 2445 bridged
Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Family Room SA-10 (optical), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Office DX7s (optical), Living Room Ares (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). Apple Music multi-stream to any, combo or all.
Spares: Polk LSi25, LSiC, CS300, 4pr T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, 50xt, Dynamo 500, Rotel RB-1590, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500,
Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
For sure it does, one should read before buying $6K speakers. Buying a pair is assumed, yet I think listing as a Left/Right PAIR beside the price makes the most sense to everyone.
However, I'm sure companies enter these in a way that fits their current database structure. I'm surprised POLK lists them as each with no obvious Left/Right pair designation beside the price.
Listed as Each
https://www.polkaudio.com/products/l800
https://www.safeandsoundhq.com/search?type=article,page,product&q=Polk*+L800*
https://www.hideflifestyle.com/products/polk-audio-legend-l800-premium-floorstanding-tower-speaker-w-patented-sda-pro-technology
Listed as Each (Pair in the description)
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_700L800BA/Polk-Audio-Legend-L800-Black-Ash.html
Listed as Each (Right) & (Left) SKU
https://www.nfm.com/floor-speakers?sort=salepricedesc
https://stereoadvantage.com/apps/omega-search/?type=product&q=Polk+L800#type=product&q=Polk L800
Yes, it was a big audio event that had reps from several other manufactures present also. Great store, great turnout, but not the best situation for listening. Some of the rooms were closed but the Polks were in a large open and noisy area. https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/187849/abt-electronics-audio-innovation-event-10-10-2019
HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade), Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7; Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601