Polk Signature S60 vs Polk LSiM 705 for HT
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For wiring I got Monoprice 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable. It’s already run through my walls so no turning back now.
Glad do know your Denon 4400 runs your surrounds without issue, I think that helps me feel that I don’t need an external 9 channel amp, and just one for the LCR should do well.
As far as slapped together 7.2.4 systems hopefully you don’t feel a system made of all Polk LSiM and LS is slapped together :-)
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PolkAudioJoJo wrote: »Why not wait for the Polk Legends?
PolkAudioJoJo wrote: »Why not wait for the Polk Legends?
I can’t imagine what those will cost, and who knows when they will be released to retail. Not to say high price equals high quality but I just bought $4200 msrp worth of speaker for $1300. Can’t imagine the legend line will be discounted like that for a long long time. -
For wiring I got Monoprice 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable. It’s already run through my walls so no turning back now.
Well that's a cryin' shame. In my opinion, if your going to run in-wall cables, buy a darn good cable off the bat. Least for the front 3 speakers that is.HT SYSTEM-
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For wiring I got Monoprice 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable. It’s already run through my walls so no turning back now.
Glad do know your Denon 4400 runs your surrounds without issue, I think that helps me feel that I don’t need an external 9 channel amp, and just one for the LCR should do well.
As far as slapped together 7.2.4 systems hopefully you don’t feel a system made of all Polk LSiM and LS is slapped together :-)
What I mean by slapped together is I've seen a lot of people just add speakers for no good sound reason at all. Speakers do need to be place in a correct arrangement or close to it. I've seen people when they run calibration it would error out due to misplaced speakers. One guy his AVR had hookup's for 12 speakers, so what did he do? He hooked in 12 speakers. it wouldn't pass calibration. He some how got it to work, sounded like he stepped on a cat or something gross.
The Monoprice 12AWG is not bad wire, not the best there is but not bad. If it's for surround duty then it's pretty good. The builder of my house used a mix of Belden and Arrow 16awg. To make it work in my rearranged room layout I had to splice in 3 different spots. So yes I'd be happy with a solid run of Monoprice 12awg to each of my surrounds. Use at least some of Doug's Furez ( https://douglasconnection.com/product/furez-12-awg-2-conductor-speaker-cable-raw/ ) for your front 3 if you can. Check Offerup, C/L and eBay for some Audioquest, MIT or KimberWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
For wiring I got Monoprice 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable. It’s already run through my walls so no turning back now.
Well that's a cryin' shame. In my opinion, if your going to run in-wall cables, buy a darn good cable off the bat. Least for the front 3 speakers that is.
Yea unfortunately my builder put a gun to my head out of nowhere about getting him the cables. Even though they sat untouched after I gave them. Home building is an irritating process.
Hopefully they should still be decent, worst case for the fronts I could probably rerun myself following the edge of the carpet or something, but i we’ll see.
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Yea unfortunately my builder put a gun to my head out of nowhere about getting him the cables. Even though they sat untouched after I gave them. Home building is an irritating process.
Hopefully they should still be decent, worst case for the fronts I could probably rerun myself following the edge of the carpet or something, but i we’ll see.
If you decide that it's worth your time and effort to run new cables,
The following may work well for you:
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Congrats and you did well."if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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For wiring I got Monoprice 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable. It’s already run through my walls so no turning back now.
Well that's a cryin' shame. In my opinion, if your going to run in-wall cables, buy a darn good cable off the bat. Least for the front 3 speakers that is.
Yea unfortunately my builder put a gun to my head out of nowhere about getting him the cables. Even though they sat untouched after I gave them. Home building is an irritating process.
Hopefully they should still be decent, worst case for the fronts I could probably rerun myself following the edge of the carpet or something, but i we’ll see.
There's nothing wrong with Mononprice 12AWG speaker wire. It's not CCA but it's not Audioquest. Great wire for the cost. From what I've seen lately a lot of builders putting in this CCA crud in peoples homes.
I would look at something better for the L/C/RWhen I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
For wiring I got Monoprice 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable. It’s already run through my walls so no turning back now.
Well that's a cryin' shame. In my opinion, if your going to run in-wall cables, buy a darn good cable off the bat. Least for the front 3 speakers that is.
Yea unfortunately my builder put a gun to my head out of nowhere about getting him the cables. Even though they sat untouched after I gave them. Home building is an irritating process.
Hopefully they should still be decent, worst case for the fronts I could probably rerun myself following the edge of the carpet or something, but i we’ll see.
There's nothing wrong with Mononprice 12AWG speaker wire. It's not CCA but it's not Audioquest. Great wire for the cost. From what I've seen lately a lot of builders putting in this CCA crud in peoples homes.
I would look at something better for the L/C/R
If i can run the LCR wiring in an elegant way without having to rip open my walls, ill look into it. Might be possible, shall see.
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For wiring I got Monoprice 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable. It’s already run through my walls so no turning back now.
Well that's a cryin' shame. In my opinion, if your going to run in-wall cables, buy a darn good cable off the bat. Least for the front 3 speakers that is.
Yea unfortunately my builder put a gun to my head out of nowhere about getting him the cables. Even though they sat untouched after I gave them. Home building is an irritating process.
Hopefully they should still be decent, worst case for the fronts I could probably rerun myself following the edge of the carpet or something, but i we’ll see.
There's nothing wrong with Mononprice 12AWG speaker wire. It's not CCA but it's not Audioquest. Great wire for the cost. From what I've seen lately a lot of builders putting in this CCA crud in peoples homes.
I would look at something better for the L/C/R
You mean that monoprice cable that is known to turn green.....yeah good stuff.Political Correctness'.........defined
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For wiring I got Monoprice 12AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable. It’s already run through my walls so no turning back now.
Well that's a cryin' shame. In my opinion, if your going to run in-wall cables, buy a darn good cable off the bat. Least for the front 3 speakers that is.
Yea unfortunately my builder put a gun to my head out of nowhere about getting him the cables. Even though they sat untouched after I gave them. Home building is an irritating process.
Hopefully they should still be decent, worst case for the fronts I could probably rerun myself following the edge of the carpet or something, but i we’ll see.
There's nothing wrong with Mononprice 12AWG speaker wire. It's not CCA but it's not Audioquest. Great wire for the cost. From what I've seen lately a lot of builders putting in this CCA crud in peoples homes.
I would look at something better for the L/C/R
You mean that monoprice cable that is known to turn green.....yeah good stuff.
The in-wall stuff doesn't turn green I just looked at the ones I've been using here at work for the last 12 years. Now the clear jacket stuff will in 6 months
I'd take the Monoprice stuff any day over that CCA crud my in-laws have running through their house.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
They arrived pretty damn quick!
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I should probably point out that that’s my 52” tv from 2008 sitting on a box used as a tv stand haha, and definitely not my final setup. Aiming for an 85in mounted to the wall in the next few months.
One of the LSiM boxes looked a little beat up but inner box was fine. And woww the 706c center channel is huge. Thinking maybe cutting into the wall a little so it can be recessed back a bit. Will see. -
I should probably point out that that’s my 52” tv from 2008 sitting on a box used as a tv stand haha, and definitely not my final setup. Aiming for an 85in mounted to the wall in the next few months.
One of the LSiM boxes looked a little beat up but inner box was fine. And woww the 706c center channel is huge. Thinking maybe cutting into the wall a little so it can be recessed back a bit. Will see.
Don't recess the 706C, it's rear ported. Need at least a foot to breath. Maybe build or buy a stand. Most speakers work their best a least a foot off the wall.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
I should probably point out that that’s my 52” tv from 2008 sitting on a box used as a tv stand haha, and definitely not my final setup. Aiming for an 85in mounted to the wall in the next few months.
One of the LSiM boxes looked a little beat up but inner box was fine. And woww the 706c center channel is huge. Thinking maybe cutting into the wall a little so it can be recessed back a bit. Will see.
Don't recess the 706C, it's rear ported. Need at least a foot to breath. Maybe build or buy a stand. Most speakers work their best a least a foot off the wall.
Ah ok, I’ll just figure out a stand for it then. Or maybe a heavy duty shelf I can bolt into the wood studs.
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Ah ok, I’ll just figure out a stand for it then. Or maybe a heavy duty shelf I can bolt into the wood studs.
That is an insanely large center channel speaker. They do make dedicated center channel speaker stands, if you are so inclined.
Congrats on the acquisitions! They look superb
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Ah ok, I’ll just figure out a stand for it then. Or maybe a heavy duty shelf I can bolt into the wood studs.
That is an insanely large center channel speaker. They do make dedicated center channel speaker stands, if you are so inclined.
Congrats on the acquisitions! They look superb
Lol yep its big, its practically the size of the towers.
I looked online and found center channel stands so i guess i will be going that route.
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Now to start researching amps to power these puppys
I guess that will depend on your budget. A few people here seem to like the Stellar line from PS Audio. You can go with a single 2-channel amp or mono blocks or both (2-channel stereo amp for the mains & a mono block for the center channel).
Many other options out there for you as well. Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
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Amps there is an almost endless choice.
from least expensive.
Monoprice Monolith, I've only hard the first gen 5CH not bad
Emotiva, I own an XPA 3 G3 and like it a lot
Outlaw I've heard the 5000 nice amp for the price it can't be beat. Their bigger amp are more expensive
Anthem friend has one even makes Kliscph sound decent. I keep asking to trade for a weekend but he won't.
Parasound A little pricey but great amps
If you're getting a AVR-X6500 I'd try that first then add a good HSU or SVS sub then an amp.
When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
I am using a D-Sonic amp that has 800wx3 and 400w x4 for my LSiMs.
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Okay im having buyers remorse. The 707's are now only $100 each more than what i paid for the 705's about a week ago. Think its worth exchanging for?
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Okay im having buyers remorse. The 707's are now only $100 each more than what i paid for the 705's about a week ago. Think its worth exchanging for?
Maybe...read this: https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/182984/how-my-lsim-707s-sound-to-me-a-reviewLiving Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Okay im having buyers remorse. The 707's are now only $100 each more than what i paid for the 705's about a week ago. Think its worth exchanging for?
Maybe...read this: https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/182984/how-my-lsim-707s-sound-to-me-a-review
That almost makes me think that it is worth the upgrade.
My room is 15 x 17 with open stairway running accross the back. Not sure if that is too small of a room for the 707's that would cause boomyness that some have reported. -
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He thinks the 705s are more balanced top to bottom. I have never heard either tower only owned the bookies so I don't know. But @DarqueKnight has some pretty damn good ears so if I were you I would also be tempted...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
He thinks the 705s are more balanced top to bottom. I have never heard either tower only owned the bookies so I don't know. But @DarqueKnight has some pretty damn good ears so if I were you I would also be tempted...
Yea that review is what got my tempted for sure! Perhaps my room size may make the bigger speakers not sound as good however is what im sometimes reading. -
I'd just keep the 705 and be happy with them. I know I'm not having 2nd thoughts.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
I love my 705s and the tweeters are right at seated ear level.
SONY VPL-VW385ES, Da-Lite 92" 0.9 HD progressive 16x9 screen, Apple TV 4K, Oppo UDP 203, Anthem AVM 60, D-Sonic 4000 (800x3, 400x4) for bed layer, 2 Crown XLS 1002 (225x4) for Atmos; Speakers: Polk LSiM 705s, 703 front, 4 702F/X surround, 4 Polk TL3 (Atmos), Velodyne DD15 Subwoofer. -
Luckily the decision to not exchange for the 707's was made for me. The price went up from 549 to 849 over the course of a day that i was thinking it over. Its a sign i guess. Ill just stay happy with the 705s. (of course ill keep an eye out on the 707 pricing for the next 30 days of exchange period haha)
