In need of some construction advice.

I am torn on this decision, and would like some input from you guys, as I hold a great deal of respect for your opinion.

My conundrum lies in the door swing in the home theater I am building. In the sketches below, you can see that the entrance to my new theater room is in the front right corner (I would have preferred a mid-wall entrance, but that was not an option). If I have the traditional in-swing door (32”), that leaves only 70” between the front speakers, after allowing for the door swing and rest against the front wall, and symmetrical speaker placement.

What I want to do, is install the door as an out-swing, which easily allows for about 88” between the speakers. I know it is not traditional for the door to a room to swing out into the hallway, but in this application, I think it makes a lot of sense. I checked local codes, and this poses no violation. The hallway is not narrow at all, at 40”, so the door resting out there would pose no constriction of movement into the room.

As an added bonus, I already have a 32” right hinge door, so this would save $70 on construction.

What think you all? Is this something I will regret later, or should I go for it?

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  • michaeljhsda2michaeljhsda2 Posts: 1,932
    Any way to install a pocket door?
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  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,100
    Any way to install a pocket door?

    Unfortunately no:-(
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

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  • michaeljhsda2michaeljhsda2 Posts: 1,932
    Bummer. Too bad you can't relocate the light switches to the wall to the left of the door.
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,375
    edited July 9
    I like your idea. B)

    Just put PULL and PUSH plaques on the door. You'll be fine and you're doing great by planning ahead "on paper". ;)
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,240
    Go for it! Out swing into the hallway, no big, IMO.
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  • JayMXJayMX Posts: 246
    @daddyjt - if you need lighting let me know. I work as a factory rep for many lines of lighting and controls. Can get you factory direct pricing. Happy to help if I can! Fun project. I built out my basement a couple of years ago. Super rewarding when it’s all done. And for what it’s worth, I think the outswing would be the best solution!
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  • EmlynEmlyn Posts: 2,530
    Nothing wrong with an outswinger. I have one for a smallish bedroom that makes the room easier to use.

    A question though. Do you really need a door at all? Unless the room is sound proofed, chances are the sound produced in the room will be heard throughout the house regardless of whether a door is there or not.

    Looks like it'll be a nice space!
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  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 16,936
    JayMX wrote: »
    @daddyjt - if you need lighting let me know. I work as a factory rep for many lines of lighting and controls. Can get you factory direct pricing. Happy to help if I can! Fun project. I built out my basement a couple of years ago. Super rewarding when it’s all done. And for what it’s worth, I think the outswing would be the best solution!

    Define lighting? Like Insteon.... Phillip Smart bulbs, etc...
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  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,100
    JayMX wrote: »
    @daddyjt - if you need lighting let me know. I work as a factory rep for many lines of lighting and controls. Can get you factory direct pricing. Happy to help if I can! Fun project. I built out my basement a couple of years ago. Super rewarding when it’s all done. And for what it’s worth, I think the outswing would be the best solution!

    Thanks jay - are there any cool options for LED can lights and dimmers? I have six cans in the ceiling, arrayed in pairs (front, mid and rear), each pair with their own switch...
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

    Currently enjoying: Legacy Focus 20/20, McCormack DNA 225, Bill D C1, Oppo 105
  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,100
    Emlyn wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with an outswinger. I have one for a smallish bedroom that makes the room easier to use.

    A question though. Do you really need a door at all? Unless the room is sound proofed, chances are the sound produced in the room will be heard throughout the house regardless of whether a door is there or not.

    Looks like it'll be a nice space!


    Although I did insulate every wall with R13, and R19 in the ceiling, it will be far from soundproof - that ship sailed about 5 amps and two velodyne subs ago, lol. I insulated more for deadening the walls for the sound inside the room. I want a door more for acoustics, I think, to keep sound reflections as equal as possible between L+R. On that note, I HATE the small intrusion above he door from the HVAC, but I didn’t want to run the drop down the entire width of the room. The perils of basements...
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

    Currently enjoying: Legacy Focus 20/20, McCormack DNA 225, Bill D C1, Oppo 105
  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,100
    How about a sliding "barn-door" type?


    Now that’s an idea I hadn’t considered... I know what I’ll be googling tonight.

    Any experience with them, or suggestions?
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

    Currently enjoying: Legacy Focus 20/20, McCormack DNA 225, Bill D C1, Oppo 105
  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 5,148
    Friendly GC here ;)
    The swing on the door does not matter one bit. Actually, an outswing door would be considered “better” for a means of egress in case your HT catches fire and you need to get out in a hurry.

    Install it whichever way you want. It’s your home and not a commercially ADA/FHA complaint space.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,914
    daddyjt wrote: »
    How about a sliding "barn-door" type?


    Now that’s an idea I hadn’t considered... I know what I’ll be googling tonight.

    Any experience with them, or suggestions?

    All the rage now that totally slipped my mind as well
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,281
    How about a sliding "barn-door" type?

    That is the door type in my bedroom’s bathroom.

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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,411
    daddyjt wrote: »
    How about a sliding "barn-door" type?


    Now that’s an idea I hadn’t considered... I know what I’ll be googling tonight.

    Any experience with them, or suggestions?

    I think this is a great idea.
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  • aprazer402aprazer402 Posts: 1,542

    Doors that swing out would be fine. :)

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,914
    BlueFox wrote: »
    How about a sliding "barn-door" type?

    That is the door type in my bedroom’s bathroom.

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    No Bud that is a pocket door.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,281
    Well, it slides closed and open. What is a sliding door?
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,914
    Rails are outside of the wall, like on barns all hardware is exposed
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  • aprazer402aprazer402 Posts: 1,542
    They're very popular right now. Many styles to choose from. Shaker cabinets are popular now too.
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,281
    Okay. For what the question was about it appears the pocket door would be the best option. Learn something every once in a while on Club Polk. :)
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,914
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Okay. For what the question was about it appears the pocket door would be the best option. Learn something every once in a while on Club Polk. :)

    Yes but due to construction probably it is not possible according to @daddyjt
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,411
    What's in the little room between the hallway and "closet" in the media room? Is that a bathroom, or, a closet? That could be an option for entry.
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  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,100
    kharp1 wrote: »
    What's in the little room between the hallway and "closet" in the media room? Is that a bathroom, or, a closet? That could be an option for entry.

    That’s the closet for the guest room - not really an option for entry.

    To have the full 16’ length in the HT, that room had to be at the end of the basement - the guest room is only about 12’5” x 14’, as the 3’6” hallway runs that span. Media room (closet) is 5’x8’, and guest closet is about 5’x5’.
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

    Currently enjoying: Legacy Focus 20/20, McCormack DNA 225, Bill D C1, Oppo 105
  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,100
    F1nut wrote: »
    Hippie beads

    Yet another option I had not considered :smile:

    Might be fun seeing how much they move during the club scenes in John Wick...
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

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  • JayMXJayMX Posts: 246
    edited July 10
    Define lighting? Like Insteon.... Phillip Smart bulbs, etc...

    Any and all! Primarily commercial, so if you need an explosion-proof exit sign I can hook you up! 😂
    daddyjt wrote: »
    are there any cool options for LED can lights and dimmers? I have six cans in the ceiling, arrayed in pairs (front, mid and rear), each pair with their own switch...

    In my basement I used some LED downlights from Juno that dim to warm like an incandescent would and they dim very low - almost to a candlelight glow with no flicker. They also offer several nice trim options.
    https://juno.acuitybrands.com/products/detail/660670/juno/ic1rled-600lm-wd-remodel-housing/warmdim-led-4in-round-remodel-housing
    I like using the remodel cans because you can easily remove them from below for service or replacement and if you plan your A/V cable paths, they provide a good way to access things if you need to re-pull wiring or make changes. If you want to see them dim, you’re welcome to stop by for a demo, but you can’t make fun of my poor man's audio rig!

    That said, from your photo above it looks like you may have already installed some (6” ?) cans. If so, you can get 6” retrofit LED modules from Juno with the same warm dim technology.
    https://juno.acuitybrands.com/products/detail/660784/juno/j6rl-wd-trim/warmdim-led-6in-round-retrofit-downlight
    If you’ve used a different diameter, let me know and we'll explore other options.

    For wallbox dimming, Lutron is usually the best route. Their Caseta line is very nice. https://www.casetawireless.com/ I can check on compatibility with the Juno fixtures if you want to explore them. I’ve also heard good things about Legrand's Radiant line as well. https://www.legrand.us/radiant/products/smart-lighting.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo4CRx8mp4wIVA9vACh1N2g5wEAAYASADEgIgpfD_BwE
    Both of those systems can be tied to Alexa/Google/HomeKit for that extra bling factor.

    We have tons of options if these don’t float your boat. Happy to help out a neighbor and fellow junkie!
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    ...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
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