Any owner updates on Carver Crimson 275 stereo tube power amplifier for 2019?

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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 22,984
    edited March 1
    For the record: I am still looking for a third party 'review' -- a formal review with measurements would be nice, but a long-term assessment by a purchaser (ideally not one of that first 50 'fanatics') would be fine.

    Pictures of the innards would be nice to see, too.

    There is just so little chatter about these, two months after the sale, to be found on the internet... it's curious.

    I will, gladly, leave it at that for the time being.
    I may check back in six months or so, somewhere, on the subject, though!

  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,318
    edited March 1
    Perhaps a demo amp program like what the folks at Backert Labs did for us with their Rhumba preamp.
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  • halohalo Posts: 5,200
    Perhaps a demo amp program like what the folks at Backert Labs did for us with their Rhumba preamp.

    Perhaps, but we have to wait for the amp to be built and that appears to be the bottleneck at this point in time. As Mr. Malitz said, customers first, reviewers second (a Polk Forum demo program would fall in the latter category methinks).
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,453
    We have an admin/moderator here?

    Huh....go figure....
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,303
    Thank you Frank.

    I see this amp is still a rare bird and will take time till somebody posts a review or opinions for the rest of us to read.

    Looking forward to learning more on your and Bob's forward progress on the success of this Carver Crimson 275 tube amp.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 8,303
    Can you ask him to repeat that please. I got lost at about 4:09.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • MagnaryderMagnaryder Posts: 16
    While we were building the 275 Bob let me put the prototype in my rig. The first thing I noticed was how much the presentation differed from many of the other amplifiers I’ve owned. The soundstage was huge and you could almost walk between the musicians there was so much space.

    I own a pair of the Carver 275s Bob was gracious enough to allow us to build in September at CarverFest and I have perhaps 350 hours (probably more) on the pair. I’ve been playing mostly HiRez files from my PC thru Schiit Yggdrasil/Welborne UltraPassPB/ Carver 275/modded Spatial M3s. My current tube configuration is Telefunken 6GM8S in the UltraPass, a Telefunken 12AX7 and IBM badged RCA 6211s in the front end of the 275 and vintage RCA 6550s power tubes.

    My reference rig is an EAR Yoshino V20, Fosgate Signature phono pre, into the M3s. The V20 is a destination piece that I find to be VERY revealing. My new Carver 275s are exceptional amplifiers in that vein and like the V20 the textures(you’ll hear textures often) of the various instruments are brought out in bold relief. Attack and decay of drums and horns are truly amazing for an amplifier in this price range.

    I have a copy of the Moody Blues ‘Live’ with the World Festival Orchestra that is a very nice recording. During ‘Haunted’ there are bells ringing, thru the 275 they ring behind my seating position. This from a 2 channel rig is really quite a feat. On my 24/192 copy of The Doobie Brothers ‘Southbound’ the Carver digs deep and resolves bass notes like you’d expect a great SS amp to do but with definition they don’t quite have. Voices of the likes of Alan Parson, Toby Keith, and Jennifer Warrens are clear, resolved, and have ‘air’ around them. The sound stages are wide and deep and the imaging is precise.

    I won’t lie, I prefer tubes for most of the music I listen to and the Carver is no slouch. Man, you can almost taste the texture of notes.

    This is a very capable amplifier, that can do everything I expect and does it at a bargain price. Jim Clark Stereo offers a money back guarantee if you feel like you might need it, you won’t.

    On a side note, one of the 275 owners I know also owns the MAC 275, currently he prefers the Carver.

    ray

    Ray Campbell
    Bucyrus, Ohio
    Carver Research Lightstar.....words fail me
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,318
    Thanks for your observations Ray, and welcome to Club Polk. I would love to see you hang around here with us.
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    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 5,059
    Thanks for your observations Ray, and welcome to Club Polk. I would love to see you hang around here with us.

    Ray’s been here since 2008. Just not the most outspoken.
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    Like a post every 2-3 years. :)
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,318
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    Thanks for your observations Ray, and welcome to Club Polk. I would love to see you hang around here with us.

    Ray’s been here since 2008. Just not the most outspoken.

    You sir, have mastered the fine art of the understatement.
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    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • MagnaryderMagnaryder Posts: 16
    Get an ear on the Carver 275, it’s worth the effort.

    ray
    Ray Campbell
    Bucyrus, Ohio
    Carver Research Lightstar.....words fail me
  • MagnaryderMagnaryder Posts: 16
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    For the record: I am still looking for a third party 'review' -- a formal review with measurements would be nice, but a long-term assessment by a purchaser (ideally not one of that first 50 'fanatics') would be fine.

    Pictures of the innards would be nice to see, too.

    There is just so little chatter about these, two months after the sale, to be found on the internet... it's curious.


    As one of the (fanatics) I can’t decide if I should be offended, or not. Is my evaluation of less value because Im one of the privileged few who built the 275 under the tutelage of the Master?

    ray

    Ray Campbell
    Bucyrus, Ohio
    Carver Research Lightstar.....words fail me
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,115
    Why be offended? The truth is you are a fan of Carver and that is fine, but it doesn't exactly put you in an unbiased scenario, regardless if you yourself are unbiased or not. I deal with this often being a dealer - its hard to talk about products you believe in without sounding like a shill. Its simply put, part of the territory.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,318
    Magnaryder wrote: »
    As one of the (fanatics) I can’t decide if I should be offended, or not. Is my evaluation of less value because Im one of the privileged few who built the 275 under the tutelage of the Master?

    ray

    Don't be offended.... you are one of the lucky ones, as I was, to be able to build an amp or two with Bob. Your opinions and insight into the build quality and the performance of these amps is both unique and important.
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    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,679
    Ray's here? I'm offended.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,439
    edited March 2
    Magnaryder wrote: »
    Get an ear on the Carver 275, it’s worth the effort.

    ray

    Thank you for that input. I noticed your running the Spatial M3's, which is the bigger brother to the M4's. Can you elaborate a bit on the Spatials as that is something that has caught my attention lately.

    I'm particularly interested in how well they handle classic Rock.
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  • halohalo Posts: 5,200
    Mr. Malitz says that a moderator contacted him? Curious, as the only moderator we had retired the day before Mr.Malitz posted his reply in the thread.
  • mark090852mark090852 Posts: 937
    halo wrote: »
    Mr. Malitz says that a moderator contacted him? Curious, as the only moderator we had retired the day before Mr.Malitz posted his reply in the thread.

    There's always a moderator on forums like this, whether they are known to us or identified or not, they are here. Try posting something blatantly inappropriate and see how fast a mod shows up.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,679
    mark090852 wrote: »
    halo wrote: »
    Mr. Malitz says that a moderator contacted him? Curious, as the only moderator we had retired the day before Mr.Malitz posted his reply in the thread.

    There's always a moderator on forums like this, whether they are known to us or identified or not, they are here. Try posting something blatantly inappropriate and see how fast a mod shows up.

    Wrong
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  • halohalo Posts: 5,200
    edited March 2
    mark090852 wrote: »
    halo wrote: »
    Mr. Malitz says that a moderator contacted him? Curious, as the only moderator we had retired the day before Mr.Malitz posted his reply in the thread.

    There's always a moderator on forums like this, whether they are known to us or identified or not, they are here. Try posting something blatantly inappropriate and see how fast a mod shows up.

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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,318
    Anyone have a picture of Russ and that goat?
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    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,632
    Anyone have a picture of Russ and that goat?

    I don't need to see that. Won't be checking this thread anymore. ;)
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,286
    edited March 2
    wrong thread
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 22,984
    Anyone have a picture of Russ and that goat?

    shhh!

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  • MagnaryderMagnaryder Posts: 16
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ray's here? I'm offended.
    Since you ran Frank off I thought I’d stop by to see what I can do about you Jesse.🤣id like to buy a vowel please. How are you doing, it’s been a while? Eddie says hey

    ray

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    Bucyrus, Ohio
    Carver Research Lightstar.....words fail me
  • MagnaryderMagnaryder Posts: 16
    tonyb wrote: »
    Magnaryder wrote: »
    Get an ear on the Carver 275, it’s worth the effort.

    ray

    Thank you for that input. I noticed your running the Spatial M3's, which is the bigger brother to the M4's. Can you elaborate a bit on the Spatials as that is something that has caught my attention lately.

    I'm particularly interested in how well they handle classic Rock.
    They do a great job on the stuff I usually play. Anything from 60s Beatles, Stones and the like to ELP, Floyd, Hendrix, VH, Eagles all sound pretty damn good. They do justice to The Chairman, Miles, all the GRP CDs too. Even my classical Telarc discs. My room is a little closed in so I’ve modded the crossovers with Mundorf SGOs to add a bit of depth. I’m really happy with them. Look on Clayton’s Facebook page, you’ll find a pic of Bob Carver digging them on my EAR at TheFest a couple of years ago. Bob says they play WAAY above their price point.

    ray


    Ray Campbell
    Bucyrus, Ohio
    Carver Research Lightstar.....words fail me
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