2 ch pre with ht bypass

WillowWillow Posts: 9,326
Help me understand this. I'd like to get better 2ch reproduction but I require to keep ht avr for connections to the TV. Without spending an arm and leg what and which brands should I look for?
2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,571
    all depends, what price bracket are you looking in ?
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • Gerres26Gerres26 Posts: 385
    How much are you looking to spend? My Musical fidelity A5 integrated amp had ht bypass, as does my McCormack RLD-1 preamp. I believe the Parasound P5 also has this feature.
  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,326
    Well how does it work? Could I still use my current avr and just buy a new pre? I don't have a budget in mind I'm just doing some leg work right now. I'd be looking used for sure.
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,045
    Do you have a separate amp or just the avr?
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,326
    Separate amp
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,045
    What sources do you want to run through the pre?
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,326
    My tt and cdp
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,600
    You don't exactly need ht bypass. You can run the pre outs to any input, you just have to pick a volume level to calibrate to and always select that input and volume when using the HT.

    Otherwise ht bypass simply disables the volume when selected as the input.

    - Not Tom

    Vr3Mods.com ///// Version3Audio.com

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,045
    edited January 9
    So assuming you get a pre with enough inputs, instead of using the preouts from the AVR to go directly to your amp, you would go into the HT bypass analog input on the PRE. You would need another input for the turntable, and then if the PRE has a DAC, you could run the CDP into either an analog or digital input. Then run out of the pre into the amp.

    BUT, assuming you have enough HDMI inputs on your TV and an optical output from the TV, there is no reason for you to keep the AVR. Run your video sources into the tv, and then an optical cable out of the TV into either an external DAC or a pre with built in DAC. I have had several marantz AVRs are really like them, but their DACs can't touch even something like my old Arcam rDAC or the DACs in my peachtree, much less a nice dedicated DAC.

    So, you have a lot of options, but if you are going to go this route I would probably just sell the AVR. Then you don't need HT bypass and you have several options:

    1. buy a pre with no DAC and then buy an external DAC and use the parasound
    2. buy a pre with built in DAC and use the parasound
    3. buy an integrated amp with no DAC and buy an external DAC sell the parasound
    4. buy an integrated amp with DAC and sell the parasound

    @steveinaz has loved his benchmark DACs which can be used as a pre. I would oook into an option like that, and keep the parasound. He basically does what I am describing in the second paragraph...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,045
    VR3 wrote: »
    You don't exactly need ht bypass. You can run the pre outs to any input, you just have to pick a volume level to calibrate to and always select that input and volume when using the HT.

    Otherwise ht bypass simply disables the volume when selected as the input.

    If you have a Non-techie spouse and especially young children, you DO need HT bypass in that scenario. Otherwise you will constantly hear screaming "the volume doesn't work!" or "how do you turn this s#!t down?!?"
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,326
    edited January 9
    I'm using an external dac and I have a 7 and 6 year old. I'd like to keep my avr. So I need to look for a 2ch pre with ht bypass....
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,045
    The Benchmark DAC2 will still fit the bill, but would render your DAC moot. You could buy it and sell the DAC I suppose...

    Honestly not sure how many pure pres with HT bypass are out there that aren't 4 digits??? Budget is key here...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,600
    Odyssey candela can be found used under 1k
    - Not Tom

    Vr3Mods.com ///// Version3Audio.com

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,571
    You don't necessarily need a pre with a HT by-pass function. Look for a line level pre amp, tubed preferably, without the volume control.

    For instance, my Joule LA-100 is a good example. Just run the front pre-outs from the avr to an input on the pre, pre's outputs to the amp and your golden. Have it hooked up like that myself and works fine.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,045
    tonyb wrote: »
    You don't necessarily need a pre with a HT by-pass function. Look for a line level pre amp, tubed preferably, without the volume control.

    For instance, my Joule LA-100 is a good example. Just run the front pre-outs from the avr to an input on the pre, pre's outputs to the amp and your golden. Have it hooked up like that myself and works fine.

    Is it possible to take the avr out of the chain for pure two channel with that setup Tony?
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • halohalo Posts: 4,742
    I was using the HT Bypass feature on my Cary when I was using the Marantz NR1403. So, the TV sources like Roku, Blu-ray, and Cable box were all connected via HDMI to the Marantz AVR. The HDMI output on the Marantz went into the HDMI 1 input on my TV. When I was using a center channel speaker, the Marantz drove the center channel speaker only (I didn't have surround speakers in the apartment, if I did the Marantz would drive those as well). The pre outs on the Marantz were connected to the Stereo/2-channel preamp's HT Bypass inputs. The Stereo/2-channel amp drove the main L & R speakers.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,796
    PS Audio Stellar Gain DAC Pre - works like a champ for EXACTLY what you are asking as I have the same type of setup
    Underwood HIFI had it for a stupid deal but you need to call them for it
    I am very happy with mine, changed the 2ch game completely
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,571
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    You don't necessarily need a pre with a HT by-pass function. Look for a line level pre amp, tubed preferably, without the volume control.

    For instance, my Joule LA-100 is a good example. Just run the front pre-outs from the avr to an input on the pre, pre's outputs to the amp and your golden. Have it hooked up like that myself and works fine.

    Is it possible to take the avr out of the chain for pure two channel with that setup Tony?

    Yes, that's exactly why you connect it that way. Your musical source is connected to the pre amp, not the receiver.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,045
    tonyb wrote: »
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    You don't necessarily need a pre with a HT by-pass function. Look for a line level pre amp, tubed preferably, without the volume control.

    For instance, my Joule LA-100 is a good example. Just run the front pre-outs from the avr to an input on the pre, pre's outputs to the amp and your golden. Have it hooked up like that myself and works fine.

    Is it possible to take the avr out of the chain for pure two channel with that setup Tony?

    Yes, that's exactly why you connect it that way. Your musical source is connected to the pre amp, not the receiver.

    But don’t you have two different volume knobs competing? Like watching tv goes through the avr volume out to the pre and through it’s volume out to the speakers? My family could never figure that out lol...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,571
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    You don't necessarily need a pre with a HT by-pass function. Look for a line level pre amp, tubed preferably, without the volume control.

    For instance, my Joule LA-100 is a good example. Just run the front pre-outs from the avr to an input on the pre, pre's outputs to the amp and your golden. Have it hooked up like that myself and works fine.

    Is it possible to take the avr out of the chain for pure two channel with that setup Tony?

    Yes, that's exactly why you connect it that way. Your musical source is connected to the pre amp, not the receiver.

    But don’t you have two different volume knobs competing? Like watching tv goes through the avr volume out to the pre and through it’s volume out to the speakers? My family could never figure that out lol...

    The line level pre doesn't have a volume knob. You use the volume on your source component for music, the volume knob on the receiver for movies.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 5,045
    tonyb wrote: »
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    You don't necessarily need a pre with a HT by-pass function. Look for a line level pre amp, tubed preferably, without the volume control.

    For instance, my Joule LA-100 is a good example. Just run the front pre-outs from the avr to an input on the pre, pre's outputs to the amp and your golden. Have it hooked up like that myself and works fine.

    Is it possible to take the avr out of the chain for pure two channel with that setup Tony?

    Yes, that's exactly why you connect it that way. Your musical source is connected to the pre amp, not the receiver.

    But don’t you have two different volume knobs competing? Like watching tv goes through the avr volume out to the pre and through it’s volume out to the speakers? My family could never figure that out lol...

    The line level pre doesn't have a volume knob. You use the volume on your source component for music, the volume knob on the receiver for movies.

    Ah I see...that’s the problem. Can’t use it with components with no volume control like the bryston or a record player...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
    ;
    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,298
    edited January 10
    Tons of option in the new and used $500 -$1.5k range. However, if you want something new for cheap, the Parasound Zpre3 has a bypass and is $349.

    https://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PAZPRE3

    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,298
    edited January 10
    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • WillowWillow Posts: 9,326
    WLDock wrote: »
    Tons of option in the new and used $500 -$1.5k range. However, if you want something new for cheap, the Parasound Zpre3 has a bypass and is $349.

    https://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PAZPRE3

    This one Seems about right. Don't want to spend too much on it right now.
    2Ch- B&W 703, SVS PB10 NSD, Marantz NR1607, Parasound 1500a, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon (Yellow) with Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono pre, MIT AVT 2 speaker cables, MIT AVT 1 and AVT 2 ICs, XLO Jumpers, Tributaries Optical, Signal Cable Magic Power Cables x3, Samsung 55JS7000, Harmony 1100, Sony BDP-S6200, Rotel RDV 1045 (as Transport), Cambridge Audio DAC Magic100, Monster 3600MKII, Android Mi Box3 and Apple TV. - Pool /Gazebo Yamaha RX-A1010, Polk Patio 25x4, Marantz DV 4200 (as CDP) MIT AVT3 ICs - Work - Spotify Premium or Neutron App to my FiiO Kunlun into my Grado SR125e

  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,571
    tubes bro, ya need toooobs ! :)
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 19,296
    Or a Pass Labs X1.. Last preamp you will ever buy. :p
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,338
    Pass does make some good preamps. Wish I liked his power amps more than I do.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,298
    Willow wrote: »
    WLDock wrote: »
    Tons of option in the new and used $500 -$1.5k range. However, if you want something new for cheap, the Parasound Zpre3 has a bypass and is $349.

    https://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=PAZPRE3

    This one Seems about right. Don't want to spend too much on it right now.

    So, you do have a limited budget...I understand very well.

    Like tony said, Tubes would be cool but new is going to be tough. Used Jolida Fusion, Peachtree, etc. Here's a used Quicksilver Audio Line Stage tube pre for $575:
    https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649467552-quicksilver-audio-line-stage-preamplifier/images/2017724/

    These have HT bypass option for $50 addl. new so maybe that used one has it or it can be sent in and added?
    http://quicksilveraudio.com/products/line-stage-preamp/
    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 19,296
    DSkip wrote: »
    Pass does make some good preamps. Wish I liked his power amps more than I do.


    Everybody knows power amps are all the same. >:) :p ;)
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-65, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB700/800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,796
    I’ll Pass on that argument
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
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