I was thinking about these: Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers $99
Or these: ELAC Debut B4 Bookshelf Speaker $124
Thoughts?
I came within seconds of acquiring a used pair of those Pioneers at a townwide yard sale in nearby Cornish Flat, NH a year or two ago. They're likewise not bad little loudspeakers.
I haven't heard the ELACs, but I have heard good things about them from people whose ears I trust.
First off don't think you need to have everything at once. Get a older AVR that has HDMI ($30-$50 range), pick up some older polkies RTi 4/6s or even a pair of T15 add a 6"/8" sub and old center for a nice little 3.1 setup for under 200 bucks total
If you can find a set cheap enough, the Monitor Audio Radius r90HDs are really good, and tiny. You’d need a sub though.
The earlier versions are supposed to be almost as good, and the later versions are supposed to be better.
Older AVR to power it, like Recoveryone said. The Monitors sound really great on my Yamaha RX-v665.
Good luck on your hunt.
Not Tom or Trey or Jim just Micah
KEF Q150s, NAD 1155 preamp and 4155 tuner courtesy of DaddyJT, NAD C352 playing power amp, BJC Belden cables, Technics SL3200, Marantz CD6004 courtesy of Clipdat, Salamander Archetype rack, Millenium Falcon
I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
mlistens03 did think about a sub. Wonder how those speakers that I mentioned do without a sub?
I think they’d do good with a sub, better than they would on their own. But the ones you mentioned earlier are larger and probably have better low end response, so you may get away without one. The Monitors I mentioned pretty much won’t do anything under 75 hz.
Not Tom or Trey or Jim just Micah
KEF Q150s, NAD 1155 preamp and 4155 tuner courtesy of DaddyJT, NAD C352 playing power amp, BJC Belden cables, Technics SL3200, Marantz CD6004 courtesy of Clipdat, Salamander Archetype rack, Millenium Falcon
I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
The reference series speakers are decent for music and a pretty good speaker given the ultra budget application here.
However my purchase was just refunded so these may not be available.
It seems there may be an similar alternative the R51m on amazon for a few bucks more.
Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
Thanks for the input, I have made my decision. I am filled with anticipation to see how this is gonna work out. I am also filled with consternation knowing that I will have to go to here mom's house to set it up. If I had the money I would send her raggedy azz to the spa for the day.
Thanks for the input, I have made my decision. I am filled with anticipation to see how this is gonna work out. I am also filled with consternation knowing that I will have to go to here mom's house to set it up. If I had the money I would send her raggedy azz to the spa for the day.
@halo I should have looked at them, I have heard good reviews here but the upgrade path would probably be a better receiver etc. This should get her through college and then I expect her to buy me a graduation present. Have you heard the S20, the more or less equivalent of the B6.2?
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They are Legion; here's but one example (I know nothing about this stuff).
https://www.parts-express.com/smsl-q5-pro-stereo-amplifier-usb-optical-coaxial-dac-with-subwoofer-output-2x40w--230-210
Do you want to go cheap or good on the loudspeakers?
If (really) cheap, these aren't terrible. In fact, the treble's pretty darned good.
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-b652-air-6-1-2-2-way-bookshelf-speaker-with-amt-tweeter-pair--300-651
EDIT:
FWIW, over at hifihaven, "we" have a forum for decent, modern entry level hifi:
http://www.hifihaven.org/index.php?forums/the-doorway.22/
Might be worth perusal in the context of this thread(?).
That doohicky has the right features.
I was thinking about these: Pioneer SP-BS22-LR Andrew Jones Designed Bookshelf Loudspeakers $99
Or these: ELAC Debut B4 Bookshelf Speaker $124
Thoughts?
I came within seconds of acquiring a used pair of those Pioneers at a townwide yard sale in nearby Cornish Flat, NH a year or two ago. They're likewise not bad little loudspeakers.
I haven't heard the ELACs, but I have heard good things about them from people whose ears I trust.
That's the best I can do, I'm afeared.
Yamaha R-S202BL Stereo Receiver
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Denon-AVR-590-5-1-A-V-Digital-HDMI-Receiver-excellent-condition/132854897581?epid=73380869&hash=item1eeec4dbad:g:ZcUAAOSw-pNb6zr4:rk:30:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Polk-TSx220B-Cherry-Bookshelf-Speakers-Pair/173633264454?epid=218500157&hash=item286d595b46:g:GnMAAOSw2gNb1ICV:rk:54:pf:0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-YST-SW010-Powered-Subwoofer/173637167946?epid=94262480&hash=item286d94eb4a:g:rdcAAOSwLSZb6b-J:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!92407!US!-1:rk:38:pf:0
Vizio P55-E1UHD Pioneer Elite SC-LX502 Pioneer Elite BDP 85FD Pioneer Elite N-50 Panamax M5300-EX
Living room 2ch:
Integra ADM 2.1 Teac EQ MKII Squeezebox Touch Fluance SX Speakers Panamax M5100-EX
Upstairs media room:
Vizio D1 32" Pioneer Elite VSX 32 Sony PS4 Squeezebox Touch Polkaudio Rti 6's fronts Polk CSR Center Polkaudio PSW 10 sub Panamax M5300-EX
Master bedroom:
Vizio VF550M Pioneer Elite VSX 33 Pioneer Elite BDP 80FD Squeezebox Touch Polk audio Monitor 40 II fronts, Rears Dayton B652 Jensen CCS center Polkaudio PSW 10 sub Panamax 5100
The earlier versions are supposed to be almost as good, and the later versions are supposed to be better.
Older AVR to power it, like Recoveryone said. The Monitors sound really great on my Yamaha RX-v665.
Good luck on your hunt.
KEF Q150s, NAD 1155 preamp and 4155 tuner courtesy of DaddyJT, NAD C352 playing power amp, BJC Belden cables, Technics SL3200, Marantz CD6004 courtesy of Clipdat, Salamander Archetype rack, Millenium Falcon
Resident Child of Club Polk
I think they’d do good with a sub, better than they would on their own. But the ones you mentioned earlier are larger and probably have better low end response, so you may get away without one. The Monitors I mentioned pretty much won’t do anything under 75 hz.
KEF Q150s, NAD 1155 preamp and 4155 tuner courtesy of DaddyJT, NAD C352 playing power amp, BJC Belden cables, Technics SL3200, Marantz CD6004 courtesy of Clipdat, Salamander Archetype rack, Millenium Falcon
Resident Child of Club Polk
Family Room Home Theater-7.2.2 (Atmos) Polk LSiM 707, 706c, Dual DSW microPRO 3000, LSiM 702 F/X [x4], RC65i | Marantz SR7009 | Rotel RB-1590 [FL/FR] | Sony UBP-X800 4K | Xbox One S 4K | AppleTV 4K | HTPC | Sony 75” XBR X850D 4K
Office Home Theater-5.1 Polk RT55, CS400, PSW450, f/x 500 | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Xbox 360 MCE | AppleTV | Samsung 55”
Office Music-2.0 KEF Q100 | Sansui AU-6900 | Topping DX7s | Sansui FR-1080
Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | McIntosh MA-5200
Patio Music-2.0 Polk Atrium8 | AMC 2445 bridged
Airplay zones: Family Room (HDMI), Master Bedroom (Optical), Office (HDMI), Living Room (Optical), SR7009 (AVR direct) and Patio (analog). MacMini iTunes multi-stream to any, combo or all.
Spares: Polk LSi25, LSiC, CS300, T15, Martin Logan Motion 40, Klipsch RP-600M, Dynamo 500, Rotel RA-1570, Denon AVR-4802R, Onkyo DX-C540, DVP-S500D, PS HX-500, PASS ACA (kit) Class A balanced monoblocks
Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
https://hifiheaven.net/shop/Products/Speakers/Bookshelf-On-Wall-Speakers/Klipsch-R-15M-monitor-speakers?sort=p.price&order=ASC
https://hifiheaven.net/shop/AktiMate-Micro-Red-2-way-Active-Speaker-System-with-iPod-Dock
I would say no, better for HT. (IMHO)
However my purchase was just refunded so these may not be available.
It seems there may be an similar alternative the R51m on amazon for a few bucks more.
Woodbourne? Yes, that would fit the bill perfectly.
Polk Audio Woodbourne
Available used it will fit the budget and connectivity requirements nicely.
Check it out, only $180.49! https://ebay.com/p/Polk-Woodbourne-Wireless-Speakers/217389882?iid=263667788637&chn=ps
Vinyl: Fluance RT82 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Vinyl II: Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB * AT120EB * ART DJ Pre II * Acrylic Turntable Mat
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * ROKU Premiere * Z-line Designs Elektra
Use for music, video games, sound bar etc
Peachtree deepblue3
https://www.worldwidestereo.com/products/peachtree-audio-deepblue3-bluetooth-3-way-speaker-system-deepblue3?sku=170282&CAWELAID=120216570000087655&gclid=CjwKCAiAlb_fBRBHEiwAzMeEdtbPh6mqW8zeqtBXuHQbgTjGCqirdsLFMnvHfvLSFmNvzWZDw27kcxoCokUQAvD_BwE
For the same price and connectivity you can go with a traditional pair of
Peachtree Audio M25 2-Way Powered Speakers
https://www.worldwidestereo.com/products/peachtree-audio-m25-2-way-powered-speakers-pair?sku=170264&CAWELAID=120216570000087121&gclid=CjwKCAiAlb_fBRBHEiwAzMeEdj9hrLnY7XKZfJ_WXXt5iK3fUXjuGjCcpImhcxfbnNQVB3GybcDnZxoCKRcQAvD_BwE
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
https://www.elac.com/product/b6-2/?r=us
And about $150 over budget
I am glad that I kept looking, got some decent price s.
So, what did you decide?
Vinyl: Fluance RT82 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Vinyl II: Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB * AT120EB * ART DJ Pre II * Acrylic Turntable Mat
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * ROKU Premiere * Z-line Designs Elektra
I am also remodeling her room to accommodate this stuff lol.
If the Elac speakers don’t float the boat, the Polk Signature Series is a very good alternative
Vinyl: Fluance RT82 * Nagaoka MP-110 * Bottlehead Reduction + Integration Upgrade * KAB RF1
Vinyl II: Audio Technica AT-LP120X USB * AT120EB * ART DJ Pre II * Acrylic Turntable Mat
Video: Hisense 55H8F * Panasonic DMP-UB200 * ROKU Premiere * Z-line Designs Elektra