Dodge or Jeep?

dalylaleahthor wrote: »

Agreed. I Still own one and it's not leaving anytime soon. Knock on wood 263k and haven't had no major issue. I can sale it in a heartbeat for 4k or more the way it sits.

My 91 Yota Pickup finally choked at 325,000 miles, I've seen more too. You still got another 100k to go, easy.

mantis wrote: »

Wow 325k miles on anything is amazing.

Not as unusual today as it used to be, it seems to me.
The kind of driving matters, too.

I assume 200k lifespan for new cars -- 300k is terrific, though, I'll give you that.

No those inline sixes were a fantastic engine.

Cherry bomb glasspack? Sweeeet.

jflail2 wrote: »

Can confirm, my 4Runner was body on frame and a beast offroad or in the snow. While it wasn't the most comfortable highway cruiser, the Limited model really helped compared to the SR5 I test drove initially. I wish I could have kept it, but I'd like to retire at some point, and a $600 a month car payment wasn't helping.

Wow....600 a month for a car payment is crazy talk to me. People really take on that kind of nut today for a car ?

$600 a month by buying instead of leasing is financing around $34K with excellent credit over 5 years. After taxes and tags, getting a $600 payment on a Durango RT means putting down $15K or more up front then paying over 5 years. And that is not taking into account all the things a dealer will try to add on to the price. An owner may be upside down on the equity for a couple years even after the big down payment. Several thousand of that chunk is immediately lost to depreciation.

That $15K would almost buy a new base Nissan Sentra on year end close out. Of course the driving experience and utility is different. But, I think a lot of people are putting out a lot money on all wheel drive these days for no good reason which drives up vehicle cost. That Sentra on a set of cheap winter tires and rims could outperform any all wheel drive vehicle on all season tires on snow and ice covered roads.

The depreciation rate on a 4Runner is really low so buying used may not make much sense and putting a lot of money down up front doesn't either while interest rates remain low.

Looks like dealers are selling new Nissan Sentra S models for around $12,900 in my area.

Ask what the mechanics are driving or look out back with the ones that have tags.
I am a tech and have been for some time, and other than the older straight 6 Wranglers with stick or the really old Grand Cherokees with the 360, they can keep the lot of em. (It will be a Jeep so you will need the bike rack) (As for off roading, I would go with a County LWB or a Defender, honestly)
I would get that used one checked over by a trusted mechanic if at all possible, if it's cheap, there's a reason. If you are going all out, get a new one or extended warranty, after all it is a Jeep. Really for trucks, just like buying tires, what do you use it for ?
You can modify or get upgraded a lot of stuff, but what will the primary use be ?
Typically, most mechanics do not own Jeeps or Dodges anymore that I know of. I do know some parts guys with some awesome Mopar products, and they are all for show.
For best work truck on a budget, the 98-03 Fords do well.
For show stopping and off road, get a new Rover or Ford Raptor.
For reliability with least amount of money going in, get the Toyota.

Good luck with your mopar, and mo powar to ya.

lightman1 wrote: »

This is my sons Jeep taking a nap after a hard day on the trail.

Somebody Get A Land Rover To Pull That Out

Bezinga

lol. Nope. Lady had just gotten the timing belt done and wanted to recoup the $600 that cost her. She had just bought a new car and wanted it out of the driveway.

If you buy smart, the depreciation thing isn't that huge of a hit. For example, my WRX that I bought for new 25K I sold for 18K after it was paid off. Spend 7K to drive a car for 5 years? All day every day I will take that deal, way better than having a car payment for the rest of my life (lease). Tacomas are the same deal, very very little depreciation. I wouldn't buy a brand new BMW 7 series, a whole different ball game there.

Offered strictly as-is, source: http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2017-vehicle-dependability-study

Nissan's been getting a bad rap lately.
Not sure why that is (i.e., what 'happened').

Re: Ford. Some of the popular Fords don't look good in terms of reliability.
The Fiesta is one of 'em -- (but) the one I bought in the summer of 2010 (brand new model at that point), which I passed along to my daughter & son-in-law, has had absolutely no trouble that I know of other than routine maintenance. It turned up 100k miles a couple of weeks ago.

Anecdotal evidence, I realize - but, still...

Plus there's a lot more Fords sold than Porsche... kind of skews it.