Five Speaker Jumper Comparisons For The SDA SRS 1.2TL
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What leads to the cable debate is not which sounds better or worse it's when someone tries to say there is no difference at all that's when the crap hits the fan.
Last year 4 of us gathered in a room testing headphones 3 picked one I picked the other, it's what I liked no debate just an opinion.
I happen to like a pair of speaker cables in my rig and can swear by them. Let Skip borrow them a few minutes later in his rig and they sounded bad. We liked them in mine but it was very noticeable that they didn't sound well in his.
Teekay some times I wish I didn't get into the critical listening part of the hobby but either way I enjoy it. Some care to a certain extent and some of us are radicals just like in any hobby, not a bad thing. Look how radical art enthusiasts are paying millions for splattered paint or a photograph of a mountain.2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Get your ears on a bunch of systems. Ask people while listening to systems what it does well and what it doesn't do well. If you want to train your ears, the easiest way to do it is to join a local audio society or attend some of the get-togethers and just listen to the experienced folk talk about it all.
You're going to make fun of me for this, but I've purposely tried to stay away from listening to high end audio systems. I haven't walked in a high end audio store. I have such an obsessive/compulsive personality when it comes to hobbies. When I got into scuba diving, and had to buy every piece of equipment, every accessory. I'm an avid fan of shooting sports and am a gun collector. A lot of people argue, "Why should someone have so many guns?" But to anyone that shoots guns will tell you that a "brand A" 9mm shoots different than a "brand B" 9mm. Just like different brand audio equipment sounds different. I have that urge to own every caliber, every style holster, every upgrade. Audio is such an expensive hobby. My goal was to buy a HT/music system on the used market at a good price and try to make it the best it can be "within reason" (low dollars) by trying different tweaks I've learned from this forum. I'm currently happy, but will be happier after a sub upgrade. Skip, I know from reading your posts that you are not one who is happy "settling", you are always looking to upgrade and find that better sound. That's what I'm afraid of. If you inherited my system, I know the first thing you would do is sell it off in search of something better. I'm afraid that if I hear something that sounds amazing, I will lose the "happiness" that I have now and not be satisfied until I reach a higher plateau. I see the prices that some of you are willing to spend in this hobby and I am scared of that "addictive behavior" that I have with my hobbies. For me, ignorance is bliss, perhaps. -
The things you say you are able to hear are within the norm of what the average person on this forum probably hears. To be able to hear the differences in jumper cables as described in the thread you will have to jump on the band wagon and be willing to drink the Kool-Aid. I prefer to remain neutral and let common sense tell me what I can and can't hear.I have a question before this thread dies. So many of these threads have reviews and observations based on having a "trained ear". I fully admit before joining this forum that I had no idea that you could actually hear the sound stage if you sit still and just concentrate on the music. I've taken advice from this forum; i.e., speaker placement, trying different speaker cables, acoustic panels, applying Dynamat and I am able to hear a difference. But how does one go about training their ears to hear the subtle difference that a lot of you speak of? I'm sure a lot of you that have been in this hobby for years can pick out changes in sound that I would not be able to. How did you get to that point to where you can pick up on "slight" changes? This might be why some people say that cables don't matter, because they don't know how to listen. It was never the norm for me to sit still while listening to music, it was more like background music, until I joined here. Is it just that some people have more sensitive hearing than others or is there a way to actually learn how to pick up on the most subtle changes in music?
I don't think I will ever be able to tell the differences in how copper wire is polished or tell the difference in the type of insulation that is on the wire by listening to a speaker connected to it no matter what training my ears get. Differences like that are measured by test equipment and the results are shown with charts and graphs. Charts and graphs are fine for informational purposes. However, I believe some people on this forum are trying too hard to hear what is is being displayed on the charts and graphs.- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
- Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
- Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
- Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
- Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
- SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
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Have you ever thought about the fact that some on this board actually can?
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I have thought about it but never considered it to be a fact.Have you ever thought about the fact that some on this board actually can?
Tom- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
- Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
- Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
- Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
- Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
- SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
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I prefer to remain neutral and let common sense tell me what I can and can't hear.
Personally, I prefer to let my ears tell me what I can and can't hear. Common sense only works if you have some, and common tells me to clean my ears for optimum hearing.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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For those of you who CHOOSE to limit your journey, congratulations on putting your foot down and saying the buck stops here.
Exactly right......and there is not one thing wrong with that......but when it stops, it stops. It really does end there. For others who continue on, not so much.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I have no problem with others spending large amounts of money for audio/video. I can certainly understand it; I've gotten so much enjoyment out of my system since I've had it, so I see how spending money can be justified and worthwhile. I'm in an extremely unique situation compared to most here...I can say that my system is the best I've ever heard. I can honestly say that because I've never had an opportunity to hear better equipment, or a dedicated two channel system, or tubes. My listening experience for equipment consists of Circuit City, HH Gregg, and Best Buy. And it's been years since I've listened to their stuff. I guess what I'm saying is I've tried to use expanding Styrofoam insulation to plug up the rabbit hole. So far, it seems to be holding.
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The things you say you are able to hear are within the norm of what the average person on this forum probably hears. To be able to hear the differences in jumper cables as described in the thread you will have to jump on the band wagon and be willing to drink the Kool-Aid. I prefer to remain neutral and let common sense tell me what I can and can't hear.
Comments referring to "drinking Kool-Aid" is not remaining neutral. If your common sense can tell you what you can and cannot hear, it should also tell you other people might be sensitive to things you are not.I don't think I will ever be able to tell the differences in how copper wire is polished or tell the difference in the type of insulation that is on the wire by listening to a speaker connected to it no matter what training my ears get.
If you choose to limit your progress in this hobby that is your right. It does not make sense to belittle others who persue things you are unwilling or unable to understand. That is what "class clowns" do.Differences like that are measured by test equipment and the results are shown with charts and graphs. Charts and graphs are fine for informational purposes. However, I believe some people on this forum are trying too hard to hear what is is being displayed on the charts and graphs.
Well this is an interesting twist. For the longest time naysayers raved about "if the differences audiophiles talked about existed, they would be measurable". Someone comes along and provides scientifically valid measurements, and now the party line is that audiophiles are forcing ourselves to hear the difference displayed in the measurements. I do commend you for not falling back on the tired old naysayer mantra of, "yeah, the difference is measureable, but it's inaudible" (all the while never justifying their belief in the inaudibility of the data).Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
How did you get to that point to where you can pick up on "slight" changes?Is it just that some people have more sensitive hearing than others or is there a way to actually learn how to pick up on the most subtle changes in music?
There is nothing mystical or special about trained perception. By analogy, one might ask you do you know something is wrong with a friend even though they are smiling and saying nothing is wrong. The answer is that you have gotten to know them, and their emotional phases, over time. Someone who knows them casually will be fooled, but you are able to see through any mask they might throw up.
You get good with listening the same way you get good with seeing, smelling, tasting, touching: practice. How do you practice listening? Listening in the sweet spot with properly set up speakers and good quality recordings. Focus on where sound images are located in space and on the size, shape and sound quality of those images. Draw maps of where the images occur in the sound stage and make notes of the character of the sounds. Listen to the same records many times and try to catalog the placement and character of every sound in the sound stage. You will be surprised at all the different sonic elements that make up a recording and even all the different sonic elements that make up the sound of a single instrument.
For example, a piano solo can be a symphony in itself. You can spend many hours trying to document the following:
1. The weight and clarity of hammer strikes.
2. The sound of notes reverberating in the wooden body.
3. The "ticklish" nature of the highest notes.
4. The overtones of one note blending with the beginning of another.
5. The decaying vibrations of strings.
6. How tall, wide, and deep the sound image of the piano is.
7. The force of the pressure wave created by low notes.
8. The exact "location" of the piano in three dimensional space.
9. The stability of the sound image if you move your head to either side or turn you head to one side or the other.
10. The ambient reflections of the recording space.
For all of the piano attributes above, different equipment will render the attributes differently. Now, imagine the things to catalog if you are listening to an entire band, or an orchestra!This might be why some people say that cables don't matter, because they don't know how to listen.
That is true of some people. Others just like to argue.I have no problem with others spending large amounts of money for audio/video. I can certainly understand it; I've gotten so much enjoyment out of my system since I've had it, so I see how spending money can be justified and worthwhile.
Most true audiophiles are cheapskates. We don't spend money just to be spending money, we spend money to get the level of performance we seek, just like in any other hobby.You're going to make fun of me for this, but I've purposely tried to stay away from listening to high end audio systems.
That is unfortunate since listening to high quality, high resolution audio systems is one of the best ways to train your ears.I haven't walked in a high end audio store.
Unfortunately, audio stores that cater to knowledgeable audiophiles are a rare breed these days. Now the emphasis seems to be on selling the most expensive gear to the most gullible with the means to pay.I have such an obsessive/compulsive personality when it comes to hobbies. When I got into scuba diving, and had to buy every piece of equipment, every accessory. I'm an avid fan of shooting sports and am a gun collector. A lot of people argue, "Why should someone have so many guns?" But to anyone that shoots guns will tell you that a "brand A" 9mm shoots different than a "brand B" 9mm. Just like different brand audio equipment sounds different. I have that urge to own every caliber, every style holster, every upgrade.
I differentiate between true hobbyists, gear heads and collectors. True hobbyists, in any hobby, are in it for learning and growth. Gear heads are about owning as much equipment as possible, with little to no desire to become proficient, or expert, at using that equipment. Collectors are discriminating gear heads who have some appreciation of the value and purpose of the gear they own.Audio is such an expensive hobby.
Audio is no more expensive than any other hobby, like, for example, playing marbles or reading and collecting comic books. There is a crazy notion that you MUST spend a lot of money to get a quality system. That is not true...especially when you consider all the high quality gear on the used market.
There are nuts who, when they run across two audiophiles with long experience who are discussing the merits of an expensive piece of high performance audio gear, they get butthurt and think that said audiophiles are emphasizing that EVERYONE should go out and buy the item under discussion. I thought it was just common sense that every hobby has practitioners at every level of proficiency and degree of interest.
I didn't get into audio because I wanted to spend a lot of money. I got into audio because I love music and I love listening to well-recorded, well-reproduced music in my home. The equipment is just a means to that end. Quality does cost money, and the higher you go up in quality, the closer you get to the aural and tactile sensations of an actual live performance.I'm afraid that if I hear something that sounds amazing, I will lose the "happiness" that I have now and not be satisfied until I reach a higher plateau.
When I am on business trips or vacation, I often sometimes rent vehicles that are much better than the ones I own. I attend the local "Parade of Homes" every year where builders showcase their residential construction expertise. Never once have I driven a rental car or toured a high end home that made me dissatisfied with what I have. What I have serves me very well at this time, and I am always happy to go back to my car, my truck, my house. They are like old friends. I like to keep up with what is available so that when I am in the market for a new car, truck, or house, I can make a more informed, debiased purchase decision.
I have nine different audio systems ranging from the Sony "boombox" in my garage to my two channel audio system which has a retail value of over six figures. I don't love the most expensive system and hate the others. They all do what I want them to do, which is play music. My focus in this hobby is on the enjoyment of music, not on the enjoyment and bragging rights of collecting audio gear.I see the prices that some of you are willing to spend in this hobby and I am scared of that "addictive behavior" that I have with my hobbies. For me, ignorance is bliss, perhaps.
Awareness of a problem is the first step toward solving it.
Again, a true hobbyist focuses more on learning than spending. Satisfaction with any hobby is greater when you take things slow and spend as your level of knowledge and proficiency increases over time.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
However, I believe some people on this forum are trying too hard to hear what is is being displayed on the charts and graphs.DarqueKnight wrote: »Well this is an interesting twist. For the longest time naysayers raved about "if the differences audiophiles talked about existed, they would be measurable". Someone comes along and provides scientifically valid measurements, and now the party line is that audiophiles are forcing ourselves to hear the difference displayed in the measurements. I do commend you for not falling back on the tired old naysayer mantra of, "yeah, the difference is measureable, but it's inaudible" (all the while never justifying their belief in the inaudibility of the data).
Agreed.
Also, I think it can it be said TennMan, that some are trying too hard to justify what they can't hear; all the while bashing those that can hear what those that can't hear.
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."![:\](https://forum.polkaudio.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
I might be guilty of trying too hard to make my point but I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just expressing my opinion (and it's just that and nothing more) on why some people claim to hear differences in audio components that the average person cannot. I don't mean any disrespect to DK or anyone else on this forum.Agreed.
Also, I think it can it be said TennMan, that some are trying too hard to justify what they can't hear; all the while bashing those that can hear what those that can't hear.
I think DK is probably one of the smartest and most well educated men on this forum when it comes to audio equipment. Although he doesn't list his speakers and associated gear in his signature, I think he probably has the best of everything. I wish I could say the same of myself and my equipment. I read everything he writes and learn a lot from it. That doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he says. I'm sure he doesn't agree with a lot, or maybe most, of what I say but that doesn't mean we are bashing each other. We are just expressing differing opinions in a civil manner.- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
- Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
- Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
- Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
- Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
- SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
- SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
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DarqueKnight wrote: »I have nine different audio systems ranging from the Sony "boombox" in my garage to my two channel audio system which has a retail value of over six figures. I don't love the most expensive system and hate the others. They all do what I want them to do, which is play music. My focus in this hobby is on the enjoyment of music, not on the enjoyment and bragging rights of collecting audio gear.
One thing that does irritate me on this forum is when people denigrate home theater systems as not being good enough for music. I use my HT system as a spare stereo, a surround sound system, and even enjoy multi-channel stereo. While my two channel system is an order of magnitude better in quality, and price, I have no problem at all using the HT system for music. Some nights I even alternate between the two just for variety. However, I do need to upgrade the jumpers on my surround (rear) speakers. Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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Here you go: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/system-showcase/view.php?userid=18511
Thing is, Raife does an almost crazy amount of research into his gear upgrades (or at least that's what I can discern from his threads).
I do a crazy amount of research for anything costing over 50 bucks.:biggrin:Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
DK, thanks for the in-depth and detailed response. I have a couple character flaws that would make it difficult to listen to music with such focus. First, I don't have a lot of patience. I've been that way my whole life. I always want to get the end result as fast as possible and skip the foreplay. Which sometimes doesn't make me popular with the ladies. I'm working on that! Second, I have trouble sitting still and paying attention. I'll start playing a CD with the intention of just focusing on the words and instruments, then ten minutes later I suddenly realize that for the past five minutes I've been trying to solve a work problem or personal problem and the music had become secondary. Now movies on the other hand, seem to do a good job of holding my attention. They are like a vacation from my life, an escape. I'm terribly guilty of playing music, sitting down in my chair, and using my tablet while listening. I have to give credit to the people that can hold their focus for such an extended period of time with no distractions. I can't even sit in a chair without constantly squirming around in it.
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Although he [DK] doesn't list his speakers and associated gear in his signature, I think he probably has the best of everything.
I have been reluctant to call attention to my audio gear since a forum member looked at my system showcase and diagnosed me with Asperger's syndrome.:eek::razz:DK-
Finally, and this is not meant as an insult: I think you have Asperger's. I work with a guy that has it and your posts are absolutely full of markers... even your system showcase pics have some hints of it.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
DarqueKnight wrote: »I have been reluctant to call attention to my audio gear since a forum member looked at my system showcase and diagnosed me with Asperger's syndrome.:eek::razz:
Kind of funny you mentioned that. Some of that thread seemd to go down much the same road as this one. HmmmmmmIf con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!
Monitor 5Jr, Monitor 5, RTA12, RTA 15TL, SDA 2A, 1c, SRS 2, 1.2TL, CRS, Atrium. -
Mr. Bubbles wrote: »Kind of funny you mentioned that. Some of that thread seemd to go down much the same road as this one. Hmmmmmm
That's typical of cable threads.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
Is Asperger's the one where you yell out obscenities? That's the disorder that I'd like to have. Sometimes I would love to be able to yell out four letter words and not get into any trouble for it. Since I can't sit still for any length of time, I figure I already have either Attention Deficit Disorder or worms.
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I figure I already have either Attention Deficit Disorder or worms.
Given your locale...I'm thinking worms. LOLHT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
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Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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Is Asperger's the one where you yell out obscenities?
No. That is Tourette syndrome.
Tourette syndrome
Asperger syndromeProud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
I might be guilty of trying too hard to make my point but I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just expressing my opinion (and it's just that and nothing more) on why some people claim to hear differences in audio components that the average person cannot. I don't mean any disrespect to DK or anyone else on this forum.
I think DK is probably one of the smartest and most well educated men on this forum when it comes to audio equipment. Although he doesn't list his speakers and associated gear in his signature, I think he probably has the best of everything. I wish I could say the same of myself and my equipment. I read everything he writes and learn a lot from it. That doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he says. I'm sure he doesn't agree with a lot, or maybe most, of what I say but that doesn't mean we are bashing each other. We are just expressing differing opinions in a civil manner.
TennMan, I was referring to those that *generally* disagree with those that can hear differences in cables and other components.
However, telling people that can hear differences in cables and other components that they are "drinking the cool-aid" is what I would consider "bashing". However, have others done worse? Absolutely. Furthermore, I personally don't take offense to the comment. I know what I can hear, I however, do not know what I cannot hear.
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
There's different grades of Kool-Aid, I prefer the El Supremo.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Haha! Shows you the last time I drank some Kool-Aid! I mispelled the name!
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
DarqueKnight wrote: »I do a crazy amount of research for anything costing over 50 bucks.:biggrin:
And what we all need to be grateful for is your willingness and ability to share it on the forum!
Thanks for that.Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One. -
Haha! Shows you the last time I drank some Kool-Aid! I mispelled the name!
I also have the Steely Dan T-shirt. :cheesygrin:Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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...yet you argue the fact that jumper cables make a difference when they carry an analog signal.
Where did I ever say that?I'm a bit confused on your stance here? You say that they make a difference, but actually HEARING the difference is absurdity?
Perceiving the difference, not hearing it.
Kinda like when someone eggs your car. Technically it's damaged (There are microscopic scratches all over the paint finish) but who is really able to see and distinguish that damage after washing off the egg?Too many good quotes to list..waiting for some fresh ammo. -
at least you are consistent...
you knew a lot about photography the other day...
now this...Marantz 1152 DC- Denon DP 1200, Soundsmith Carmen MKII- ADS L980 - Blue Jeans IC's -
at least you are consistent...
You knew a lot about photography the other day...
Now this...
^^^this^^^Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance. -
Kinda like when someone eggs your car.
You've had your car egged......LOL
Says a lot about you.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
