I would like to mod your crossovers revised

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    You can use a LCR meter but a multi meter does not tell the whole story
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  • Esreuter
    Esreuter Posts: 176
    edited June 2011
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    i see this.

    and in my findings from the last post i see the difficulties of getting the inductance and the resistance measured out of a inductor.

    life just never can be that easy eh?:mad:

    esr:biggrin:
    AVR: Sony 5600ES
    Center: CS2II (Clarity Caps PX, Perfect Lay coil, Mundorf resistors)
    Front: Monitor 70 II (Clarity Caps PX, Perfect Lay coils, Mundorf resistors)
    Surrounds: Monitor 40 II (Clarity Caps PX, Perfect Lay coil, Mundorf resistors)
    Rear Surrounds: Monitor 40 II (Clarity Caps PX, Perfect Lay coil, Mundorf resistors)
    More to come :biggrin:
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  • DON73
    DON73 Posts: 516
    edited June 2011
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    I need x overs for a pair of empty AR2ax speaker boxes. Can you build a X over from a hand drawn schematic? It's a simple x over with two caps. I can do the job but my schematic reading is lacking.
    TO ERR IS HUMAN. TO FORGIVE IS CANINE.
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  • Esreuter
    Esreuter Posts: 176
    edited June 2011
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    hey Vr3

    you used any of the radio shack soder guns and irons?

    are they alright?

    i still have my mac tools gun but that is a bit bulky and clumsy for x over work.

    thanks sir.

    esr:biggrin::biggrin:
    AVR: Sony 5600ES
    Center: CS2II (Clarity Caps PX, Perfect Lay coil, Mundorf resistors)
    Front: Monitor 70 II (Clarity Caps PX, Perfect Lay coils, Mundorf resistors)
    Surrounds: Monitor 40 II (Clarity Caps PX, Perfect Lay coil, Mundorf resistors)
    Rear Surrounds: Monitor 40 II (Clarity Caps PX, Perfect Lay coil, Mundorf resistors)
    More to come :biggrin:
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    I did my first few with Ratshack tools but they are horrible.

    Weller is where its at the digital one (130 bucks)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
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    the de-soldering iron I bought from Radio Shack is pretty decent for crossover de-soldering-has a little bulb-sucker thingy.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    New email address to email about modifications -

    Vr3Mods@GMail.com

    Thanks
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • DON73
    DON73 Posts: 516
    edited June 2011
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    DON73 wrote: »
    I need x overs for a pair of empty AR2ax speaker boxes. Can you build a X over from a hand drawn schematic? It's a simple x over with two caps. I can do the job but my schematic reading is lacking.



    Guess not.:confused:
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
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    Carl probabally can,if Sid can't

    http://www.classicloudspeakerservices.com/gallery.html
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    I just now saw this... I imagine I could - I am decent at reading schematics and drawing poor quality ones.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    JUST A FWIW -

    THOSE OF YOU GETTING YOUR CROSSOVERS MODDED, I AM CURRENTLY WAITING ON BINDING POST. THEY SHOULD BE HERE BY THE END OF THE WEEK!

    Thanks!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
    edited June 2011
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    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    ...I AM CURRENTLY WAITING ON BINDING POSTs...
    what brand & why?
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work
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  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,606
    edited June 2011
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    JUST A FWIW -

    THOSE OF YOU GETTING YOUR CROSSOVERS MODDED, I AM CURRENTLY WAITING ON BINDING POST. THEY SHOULD BE HERE BY THE END OF THE WEEK!

    Thanks!

    eeeexcellent.
    ALL BOXED UP for a while until I save up for a new place :(

    Home Theater:
    KEF Q900s / MIT Shotgun S3 / MIT CVT2 ICs | KEF Q600C | Polk FXi5 | BJC Wire | Signal / AQ ICs | Shunyata / Pangea PCs | Pioneer Elite SC 57 | Parasound NC2100 Pre | NAD M25 | Marantz SA8001 | Schiit Gungnir DAC | SB Touch

    2 Channel:
    Polk LSi9 (xo mods), Polk DSW MicroPro 2000 sub | NAD c375BEE | W4S DAC1 | SB Touch | Marantz SA-8001 | MIT AVt 2 | Kimber Hero / AQ / Signal ICs | Shunyata / Signal PCs
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    FWIW --

    I would be able to offer a 24-48 hour turn around time on SDA CRS+ using the following parts

    Tweeter - Clarity Cap SA
    Midbass - Clarity Cap PX
    I am assuming it is the "SDA" part of the crossover - Solen
    Resistors - Mundorf
    Insulated binding post change out -

    Basically you send me your crossover boards and terminal cup - and I will send you a pre modded board the next business day after yours arrives...

    I can do this until no more members want their crossovers modded... lol
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    Anyone in the ready on a CRS+ - the next set will be ESA on the tweeter as the SA was OOS
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    I could also offer this deal to someone with RT35i and CRS originals with dual tweeters as long as I was given time to get the parts in before you shipped them :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    Alright Im full speed ahead now - so ready for more crossovers and work! :)

    Fun fun fun!

    I have got the LSi9 down to a SCIENCE now. I did the second one in under 4 hours versus 7!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • JimAckley
    JimAckley Posts: 1,138
    edited June 2011
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    It took you 7 hours the first time?
    - Computer Rig -
    YAΘIN MS-20L, polkaudio RT5

    - Main Rig -
    Pioneer SC-37, Overnight Sensations, Samsung 52" LCD

    - Currently In Progress -
    Curt Campbell's Uluwatu LCR, LMS Ultra Gjallarhorn, JBL W15GTi stereo subs, 2.1 entertainment system for the gf
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    Thats alot of work man!

    Gotta cut the bread board, fit the components the best way, find the best way to run wire...

    That also includes changing out post, etc etc
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • JimAckley
    JimAckley Posts: 1,138
    edited June 2011
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    I forgot that you add the breadboards on. Makes sense now :tongue:
    - Computer Rig -
    YAΘIN MS-20L, polkaudio RT5

    - Main Rig -
    Pioneer SC-37, Overnight Sensations, Samsung 52" LCD

    - Currently In Progress -
    Curt Campbell's Uluwatu LCR, LMS Ultra Gjallarhorn, JBL W15GTi stereo subs, 2.1 entertainment system for the gf
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    Yep!

    I really like the method I came up with as it keeps it clean but the first one always goes rough as you get the feel for how it will go together as everyone is different! :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited June 2011
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    Have you ever modded a Monitor 60? Would it be worth it?
    TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
    Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
    Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
    Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
    Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
    AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited June 2011
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    I have not modified one - would not be a problem.

    I think it would be worth but dont go overboard.

    Clarity Cap PX, Dayton, Solen - keep it inexpensive. Definitely would be better than stock parts
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
    edited June 2011
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    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    ...find the best way to run wire..., etc etc
    wire: brand & gage
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited July 2011
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    Depends on how much the individual is spending (trying to keep cost reasonable) - I now offer generic wire (14 awg) and DH Labs silver plated copper 20 gauge

    The DH Labs is an incredible sounding wire gauge aside - I really like it and it is super easy to run in speakers and in crossovers... For internal wiring with DH Labs if we use the 20 gauge I will double the runs for the midbass drivers and use single runs on the tweeter
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited July 2011
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    If someone wants to go crazy - DH Labs T-14 is awesome but it is almost double the price of what I use now after you factor in shipping...

    If you want to go EVEN CRAZIER!

    The Q-10 is awesome at 16 a ft
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • philcamp1234
    philcamp1234 Posts: 2
    edited July 2011
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    I am currently using the following in my HT.
    VM20 for a center
    TSi-400 for front towers
    TSi-200 for surrounds
    VM10's for rear surrounds
    All Polk
    Sub is a Velodyne (I modded myself)
    Rear sub I custom built recently.

    Question 1 If you were going to mod the TSi400 or 200's X-overs what
    would you change? Just Quality of components?

    Question 2 If you were going to upgrade the tweeters from the factory 1"
    Silk Domes which tweeter would you reconmend in the $50 to $75 range.
    (I burned one up playing around with BI-AMPING) (also factory ones are a special shape....not round)
    :cool:

    PHIL2011
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited July 2011
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    Yep we would use nicer components to obtain better sound quality.

    I do not recommend changing the tweeter to anything other than what Polk uses
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,061
    edited July 2011
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    Catching up on this end of things... ready to MOD!

    :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    edited July 2011
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    I may try barking up your tree again in a few weeks.
    Just finished putting together my budget system and want to see how it sounds first before i start changing anything else. I haven't even turned it on yet. I know the A5's a little bright but we'll see how it sounds on the new (to me) Anthem gear. Stay Tuned
    In the mean time, i'll pull a x-over before i hook everything up and see what we're dealing with. I'll send you photos...
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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