Whats with all the talk about Oppo BDP-83 ?

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  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited April 2009
    As has been stated before, people are excited about this Oppo mostly because:

    1. It's a "universal" player (plays every format out there, besides HD-DVD).
    2. The boot times on Blu-rays (Dark Knight for example) are <10 seconds for most discs.
    3. Oppo is known to be VERY smart when it comes to pricing.
    4: Incredible up-scaling of regular dvd's.

    I'm no expert, but if you were to look at another player with all the options the Oppo is going to have and compared prices...I think you'd find the Oppo at least $100 cheaper.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2009
    I'm no expert, but if you were to look at another player with all the options the Oppo is going to have and compared prices...I think you'd find the Oppo at least $100 cheaper.

    There's actually another universal player announced that would be cheaper than the Oppo....but no by much. I forget the brand but I started a thread about it here. However, the brand is a newcomer and not known like Oppo. Otherwise, the next step up from the Oppo BDP-83 will be the universal players from Denon and Marantz....and those cost thousands more than the Oppo.
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited April 2009
    Hmmm...I'll have to keep my eye on this one.

    I plan on going with a dedicated CDP for my redbook CDs, but am in the hunt for a new BD player that I'll connect just HDMI to my avr for DVDs and BD movies.

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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited April 2009
    Has Oppo released a date yet for when the final product will be ready to buy?

    I also read the Oppo BDP-83 will have direct DSD over HDMI and DSD to analog without going through a PCM conversion. I'm not familiar with which other players offer that feature, maybe it's mainstream now and most do that too?

    I'm up in the air between this Oppo and the new Pioneer Elite BPD-23fd. Pioneer has pushed back the release date to end of May. I'll wait for both to come out and read the reviews of both before I buy.
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited April 2009
    Only time will tell how good or bad the new Oppo will be but if it is anything like it's predecessors it will be an outstanding player at it's price point. Sure there are audio and video snobs out there who will tell you if it isnt made out of solid billet cut aluminum and highly polished and weighs at least 40lbs and costs thousands it's crap.

    The reality is that most people cant afford several stand alone mega dollar players nor do they want a rack 8 feet high filled with these things :p


    So for those of us who want a universal player at a reasonable price it most likely will fit the bill.

    The customer service is outstanding also, try sending an email to other companies regarding a player that you paid a few hundred dollars for and see how long it takes to get a response, with oppo it is usally within a few hours max if not within minutes :cool: also firmware upgrades are done quickly and easily.

    They have developed quite a reputation in the few years they have been making audio/video products and for good reason, I cant see them developing a crappy player at this time. Just the fact they sent out a few hundred players for testing at reduced prices shows they are very serious about this being the best player for the $$ involved.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited April 2009
    Hers a quick pic of the above mentioned player, I wanst able to add/edit in time lol.



    REGARDS SNOW
    oppo.bmp 509.1K
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2009
    I also read the Oppo BDP-83 will have direct DSD over HDMI and DSD to analog without going through a PCM conversion. I'm not familiar with which other players offer that feature, maybe it's mainstream now and most do that too?

    Pioneer's first universal player, the 563, will do direct DSD>>>analog if it was in 2 channel mode. Same with its successor, the 578. I've also heard that all Sony SACD-capable players can do DSD>>>analog in 2 channel mode.

    Of course, this was before HDMI can support DSD transmission.
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2009
    snow wrote: »
    The customer service is outstanding also, try sending an email to other companies regarding a player that you paid a few hundred dollars for and see how long it takes to get a response, with oppo it is usally within a few hours max if not within minutes :cool: also firmware upgrades are done quickly and easily.

    I have visited their office (to pick up my Oppo 970) and, surprisingly, there're less than 10 people in the office. Hmmm....maybe they were out to lunch?
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2009
    Here's a link to what's happening and users' notes from the Early Adoption Program to the BDP-83....

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/eap.aspx
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited April 2009
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    Here's a link to what's happening and users' notes from the Early Adoption Program to the BDP-83....

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/eap.aspx

    After reading the Beta tester reviews it seems there are some quirks that need to be fixed and tweaked before the Oppo 83 is released. Oppo should hit the nail on the head before it's released so the customers don't have to download all sorts of firmware updates to fix the bugs.
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited April 2009
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    I have visited their office (to pick up my Oppo 970) and, surprisingly, there're less than 10 people in the office. Hmmm....maybe they were out to lunch?
    Perhaps? but I think they have a small staff here in the US, but they are very efficent at answering emails 10 well trained people can do the work of 50 poorly trained inefficent ones :p I know when I ordered mine on dec 21 I was sure that it would be new years before it arrived, surprise surprise it was at my po box on dec 24th and the one time i sent an email asking about the different outputs it was answered within 15 mins and I have heard the same type of story from countless people.
    digitalvideo Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danny Tse
    Here's a link to what's happening and users' notes from the Early Adoption Program to the BDP-83....

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/eap.aspx

    After reading the Beta tester reviews it seems there are some quirks that need to be fixed and tweaked before the Oppo 83 is released. Oppo should hit the nail on the head before it's released so the customers don't have to download all sorts of firmware updates to fix the bugs.
    Yes that is one of the things that is impressive about this young company is that they are actually taking the time to test there product before releasing it. Smart if you ask me because once you build up a reputation you sell a lot more product.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2009
    Release of the BDP-83 seems to be soon, based on comments made by the early testers. DVD-A playback is confirmed and Oppo has also acknowledged that on its webpage for the BDP-83.

    Rumored list price is $500.00
  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,081
    edited April 2009
    Are there any other players to consider when looking for entering the world of Blu Ray? it seems that this Oppo and the Pioneer Elite to come are the favored players on this forum. I already have a great SACD player so I'm mainly concerned about video quality. A good pre or AVR like the Pioneer SC series would do the best audio processing.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited April 2009
    If youre considering the SC05, then definitely check out the Oppo or new Elite. I'm not sure which route I'm going, but I will be buying one or the other.
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  • nebborjk
    nebborjk Posts: 425
    edited April 2009
    Oppo has started selling this unit to those who signed up for updates and the EAP.
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  • millerman 3732
    millerman 3732 Posts: 1,488
    edited April 2009
    I received this email yesterday regarding the Oppo.


    The BDP-83 Early Adoption Program has successfully come to an end with 88.8% voting in favor of releasing the BDP-83. Valuable feedback from our early adoption customers and beta testers has helped us shape the BDP-83 into a truly exceptional product.

    Due to limited initial availability, we are offering priority ordering for customers that signed up early for the OPPO Blu-ray Interest List. If you would like to place a priority order for the BDP-83, please follow the special link below:

    http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BDP83-VIP524

    Please refer the following link for the BDP-83 product features.

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/blu-ray-BDP-83-Features.aspx

    As this is a special by-invitation-only link, we ask that you do not share or mention this special link with anyone else. Priority orders are limited to 1 unit per customer only and all orders are subject to verification. This invitation will remain available through May 2, 2009. We expect to begin fulfilling priority orders next week.

    As part of our ongoing effort to improve this full-featured high-performance Blu-ray player, we recommend upgrading the firmware to the latest version to take advantage of features and bug fixes. We greatly appreciate your patience and believe you will find that the BDP-83 was worth the wait.


    Sincerely,

    Customer Service

    OPPO Digital, Inc
    2629 Terminal Blvd. Suite B
    Mountain View, CA 94043
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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited April 2009
    this is why i'm interested :)
    # DVD-Audio - The BDP-83 plays DVD-Audio and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to play the DVD-Audio or the DVD-Video portion of the disc.
    # SACD - The BDP-83 plays Super Audio CD (SACD) and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to output the DSD (Direct Stream Digital) signal in its native format or convert it into PCM.
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  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited April 2009
    $500 is too much for a blu-ray player nowadays, even with all the added options and perks.

    I agree that this is going to be an amazing player, but $500? I love blu-ray, but I simply can't afford that kind of money (MOST people can't in this economy).

    Drop it below $300, and I might be able to scrounge up enough money. God knows I need a new player (mine is getting long in the tooth).
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2009
    $500 is too much for a blu-ray player nowadays, even with all the added options and perks.

    I agree that this is going to be an amazing player, but $500? I love blu-ray, but I simply can't afford that kind of money (MOST people can't in this economy).

    Drop it below $300, and I might be able to scrounge up enough money. God knows I need a new player (mine is getting long in the tooth).
    While I agree that a lower price would be far more attractive, $500 is still a great value if you need the universal function. I can probably sell my 2 players for ~ $300, so the hit won't be too great. I'll stick with what I have for a few months, then adopt the new Oppo after the kinks are worked out.

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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited April 2009
    i figure i have an older $400 DVD-A/SACD player and a $300 Blu ray so $500 isn't bad considering i don't have a receiver/pre-amp that has hdmi (just not ready to dive in yet) and am unable to get the HD audio formats due to my DVD-A/SACD player taking up the multi ch input. the oppo is what i have been waiting for :)

    beside we all have i justifiable expenses ;)
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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited April 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    I'll stick with what I have for a few months, then adopt the new Oppo after the kinks are worked out.

    my thoughts exactly i figure i'll give it 3-6 months before i opt in
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    Audio:
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    OPPO BDP-103 CD, SACD, DVD-A
    Video:
    Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
    OPPO BDP-103 Bluray
    Directv x's 2
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,806
    edited April 2009
    I received this email yesterday regarding the Oppo.


    The BDP-83 Early Adoption Program has successfully come to an end with 88.8% voting in favor of releasing the BDP-83. Valuable feedback from our early adoption customers and beta testers has helped us shape the BDP-83 into a truly exceptional product.

    Due to limited initial availability, we are offering priority ordering for customers that signed up early for the OPPO Blu-ray Interest List. If you would like to place a priority order for the BDP-83, please follow the special link below:

    http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BDP83-VIP524

    Please refer the following link for the BDP-83 product features.

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/blu-ray-BDP-83-Features.aspx

    As this is a special by-invitation-only link, we ask that you do not share or mention this special link with anyone else. Priority orders are limited to 1 unit per customer only and all orders are subject to verification. This invitation will remain available through May 2, 2009. We expect to begin fulfilling priority orders next week.

    As part of our ongoing effort to improve this full-featured high-performance Blu-ray player, we recommend upgrading the firmware to the latest version to take advantage of features and bug fixes. We greatly appreciate your patience and believe you will find that the BDP-83 was worth the wait.


    Sincerely,

    Customer Service

    OPPO Digital, Inc
    2629 Terminal Blvd. Suite B
    Mountain View, CA 94043

    Did you see this:
    As this is a special by-invitation-only link, we ask that you do not share or mention this special link with anyone else.

    Many of us were unable to order yesterday because people keep posting the link.:(
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,806
    edited April 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    While I agree that a lower price would be far more attractive, $500 is still a great value if you need the universal function. I can probably sell my 2 players for ~ $300, so the hit won't be too great. I'll stick with what I have for a few months, then adopt the new Oppo after the kinks are worked out.

    After the initial invitation orders, the price will rise to $599. Decisions...
  • nebborjk
    nebborjk Posts: 425
    edited April 2009
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    After the initial invitation orders, the price will rise to $599. Decisions...

    Where did you hear this?
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,081
    edited April 2009
    nebborjk wrote: »
    Where did you hear this?

    The website shows the list price of $599 right below the special pre order price of $499. It suggests a price increase but doesn't come right out and say it.
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  • millerman 3732
    millerman 3732 Posts: 1,488
    edited April 2009
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Did you see this:



    Many of us were unable to order yesterday because people keep posting the link.:(

    Sorry you couldn't order yesterday, but I didn't post the email until this morning.
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  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited May 2009
    Nevermind
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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  • Falcon01
    Falcon01 Posts: 89
    edited May 2009
    I have been waiting for this player but I just realized it is $499 plus $82 shipping to Toronto. With the current exchange rate at roughly 1.25% it comes out to roughly $690 CAN and that's WITHOUT duty or any other taxes I may get hit with. Looks like I'll have to keep using the PS3 for a while until either the price comes down or I find a used one which I doubt will happen for a while.
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  • POIDOG
    POIDOG Posts: 391
    edited May 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    While I agree that a lower price would be far more attractive, $500 is still a great value if you need the universal function. I can probably sell my 2 players for ~ $300, so the hit won't be too great. I'll stick with what I have for a few months, then adopt the new Oppo after the kinks are worked out.

    Also, from a pricing standpoint, too low of a price would compete with their other product lines. From my point of view I'm thinking of replacing 2 units with this one. This seems to make sense to me. A Denon 2910 and Samsung 1400. :rolleyes:
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited May 2009
    $500 bucks for BDP-83 works for me:D
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