55 lbs. of Magic or Misfortune.......

reeltrouble1
reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
edited January 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
Only time will tell, but I will have a great digital source heavyweight shootout coming soon!!!:D I have a weeks leave coming up with the holidays so it will be Grand. A 55lb Esoteric is supposed to be at my door today.

Hi-Fi Sand vs Hi-Fi Tube

yea baby.......damm I love 2ch audio. I especially love those days large heavy boxes with audio stuff appear, early xmas for me, only prob. I am wiped for audio funds till next year......and I will need to let go of some more nice things at all price ranges.

Watch for some RT1 specials in the near future as some good stuff has got to go to pay for some good stuff I bought.

Kinda sounds like a Rabbit Hole......with circles.......

RT1
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited December 2009
    I've listened to Esoteric gear and speakers before, very nice stuff. Look forward to your comments on the shootout!
    DKG999
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    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2009
    I've heard an Esoteric SACD/CD player but I don't think it was up to snuff with the kw. I never did get to hear a side by side test but I understand your kw dilemma and think you've made a wise decision.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2009
    Joe,

    The Kw is supposed to be back next week in time for xmas, all primed, pimped, and ready to rock, Michael though has intrigued me with his reports on his Esoteric with his ARC gear, so I gotta know, you hear me, I just gotta know........you never know, till you know, I might keep both........anyway I am top heavy with all kinds of sources right now except TT's.

    RT1
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    Joe,

    The Kw is supposed to be back next week in time for xmas, all primed, pimped, and ready to rock, Michael though has intrigued me with his reports on his Esoteric with his ARC gear, so I gotta know, you hear me, I just gotta know........you never know, till you know, I might keep both........anyway I am top heavy with all kinds of sources right now except TT's.

    RT1

    Gee what a surprise. As far a the kw's return I'll believe it when I see it. Either way enjoy yourself Big Brother.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    anyway I am top heavy with all kinds of sources right now except TT's.

    RT1

    :eek::eek::eek:
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2009
    He hehe I had the same reaction.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    I'd take that Esoteric over the MF any day.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited December 2009
    Congrats Ted! The Esoteric CD /SACD Players can be an ecstasy in the Audio Chain.

    I take it you don't want to reveal the model till it arrives yet.

    Buy a single use disposable camera and take some pictures, RT1!
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2009
    I keep wanting to call "dibbs" on whatever he might be selling without even knowing what it might be.:eek:

    There is something wrong with me... :p
    -Kevin
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    Oppo BDP-83 SE
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    I keep wanting to call "dibbs" on whatever he might be selling without even knowing what it might be.:eek:

    There is something wrong with me... :p

    Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. ;)
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited December 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    i keep wanting to call "dibbs" on whatever he might be selling without even knowing what it might be.:eek:

    There is something wrong with me... :p

    ^^ +1000000000000000 :d

    Speakers
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    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
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    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    4thed. :D
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2009
    Hey RT, didn't you get the news? :confused:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-9991658-47.html
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,565
    edited December 2009
    I guess you didn't get the latest news, Chuck.

    Vinyl: 22%
    CD: 17%
    SACD: 28%
    DVD-Audio: 5%
    Download (specify format): 21%
    Web Radio: 0%
    Radio (FM, HD, XM, etc): 0%
    Tape (specify format): 0%
    Other: 3%
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited December 2009
    Have you heard the news? There's good rocking tonight.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

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    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited December 2009
    Congrats Ted, I hope you like the Esoteric. Which model did you get?
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    I guess you didn't get the latest news, Chuck.

    Vinyl: 22%
    CD: 17%
    SACD: 28%
    DVD-Audio: 5%
    Download (specify format): 21%
    Web Radio: 0%
    Radio (FM, HD, XM, etc): 0%
    Tape (specify format): 0%
    Other: 3%

    Isn't it amazing that in 2009 vinyl is second?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,565
    edited December 2009
    Considering how hard Fremer has pushed vinyl, it's no surprise. Although, I'd bet he was surprised by SACD's showing.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited December 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I'd take that Esoteric over the MF any day.

    Yeah, good sound vs bad, milliseconds of genius Mark, thanks for the input. The old guys lean towards the MF gear because the top end is SO forward, they can actually hear it. What sucks is I'm 37, and holding - no MF yet.... :)

    Remember that pure Esoteric rig we rocked at Alexis Park, in what, '06? That, and the VLM setup (that we made the room stand still with the Ben Harper CD vs Vinyl shootout) still wakes me up in the middle of the night just thinking about it. How that didn't get written up, I'll never know. Audio peeps were leaving the obscene McIntosh and Dali rooms just see what the deal was.

    SACD? Ha freakin ha ha ha. Give me a proper $3 clearance redbook with a tube back end, and a used Meridian anyday.

    Cheers,
    Rooster
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited December 2009
    Congrats on the Esoteric player!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited December 2009
    Both are excellant players,regardless. For me though,you have to have tubes somewhere in the chain. Digital still hasn't been able to put that air around the instruments,that depth to the notes,that only tubes can. This will be a very interesting shoot out, Ted doesn't do anything half ****.
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    Polk Sig. 20's
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    I guess you didn't get the latest news, Chuck.

    Vinyl: 22%
    CD: 17%
    SACD: 28%
    DVD-Audio: 5%
    Download (specify format): 21%
    Web Radio: 0%
    Radio (FM, HD, XM, etc): 0%
    Tape (specify format): 0%
    Other: 3%

    Oh, I have the latest news, it seems 22% know great sound, 17% are lazy or cheap, 21% are hip and 28% are willing to compromise slightly. :D
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2009
    Its here, its in, its good, I will be back when I am done......................

    RT1
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    Its here, its in, its good, I will be back when I am done......................

    RT1

    Well, hurry up :p
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited December 2009
    Pictures or it didn't happen :(

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    Its here, its in, its good, I will be back when I am done......................

    RT1

    Can't wait!
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited December 2009
    Times up Ted. What model?
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,565
    edited December 2009
    I'm getting some hardcore laughs here.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited December 2009
    Ted,
    Merry Christmas
    I guess you gotta post some pictures. I bet its a beauty and can't wait to see the pictures.

    Damn its getting cramped in the rabbit hole.

    I do love to read about success stories like this.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited December 2009
    The rabbit hole is temporarily disabled. Brainwaves are short circuiting. Hang loose and all will be restored. ;)

    The truth will be known....
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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