SDA SRS 1.2TL just acquired
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I don't see why a modded pair of LSi15's wouldn't have better resolution than a stock pair of SRS 1.2TL's. The 1.2TL's should have a better soundstage and much bigger bass though."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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This has been one busy thread today. I may have a pair of SL3000's available if you still need them.
StanStan
Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.
HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60
Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601 -
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This has been one busy thread today. I may have a pair of SL3000's available if you still need them.
Stan
George has six available, but I am going to talk to Ken at Polk tomorrow before I decide which way to go on tweeters, SL3000 or RDO 198-1's
Thanks!Pio Elete Pro 520
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Sunfire CG 200 X 5
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SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
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Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
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LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
Jerry,
I've been thinking about your offer, maybe you could send the Carver Silver 9t's and Carver Amazings for comparrisons...should have them back to you before you retire:eek:
Hehe, ouch....... I was thinking more on the lines of a 1.5t -
The interconnect is working correctly, my misunderstanding....
I have ordered 8 new RDO-198-1's, it seems like most people like them better.
I will continue to troubleshoot the popping drivers once the tweets are in place and everything is working.........
What crossover modifications are best and what can be expected from them??
Thanks for the help!!Pio Elete Pro 520
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Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
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Sunfire CG 200 X 5
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OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
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I was just going to ask for an update...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Hmmm,, did you ever remove the drivers and test them?JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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george daniel wrote: »Hmmm,, did you ever remove the drivers and test them?
I did pull each driver out of the left cabinet and hook them directly to the main speaker cable so they were getting the full range. I couldn't tell any difference, not sure what I should hear, but I thought something would sound different?? I did not push them very loud, didn't know if it would hurt them or not since they were connected straight to the main cable??
What should I hear and how hard should I push them??Pio Elete Pro 520
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SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
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GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
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Not being used:
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RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
What crossover modifications are best and what can be expected from them??
The forum is full of that info, hit the search function.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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nooshinjohn wrote: »True... but as I said, I run an identical amp Jesse with no problems, even when the volume is maxed out and have no control issues in my setup. It would stand to reason that he should not have issues from his amp, and drivers are most likely the cause. Phase issues could also have something to do with it, but my bet is a couple drivers need to be replaced.
I was re-reading this thread and have to ask if you can really turn the volume to its max with no problems?? What pre are you using and are you using all 7 channels of your amp?? I assume you are using 4 channels for the big boys??
I'm just reading up and waiting on the new tweeters to arrive. How can I check the phase of each speaker?? I can't find a wiring diagram, just a drawing with each speaker showing the color of wire that should be connected??Pio Elete Pro 520
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SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
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I do have it Bi-amped, running 4 channels to them, and yes I can max it out. I have the Yamaha RX-v861 set to max out at 0.
The volume on it runs from-70db to +15. I have set it up to stop progression beyond the 0db pointThe Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
nooshinjohn wrote: »I do have it Bi-amped, running 4 channels to them, and yes I can max it out. I have the Yamaha RX-v861 set to max out at 0.
The volume on it runs from-70db to +15. I have set it up to stop progression beyond the 0db point
Are you using the other channels of your amp to drive anything?? The reason I ask is that I have read that the amp will use power intended for the unused channels if needed for the ones being used?? Have you measured the output with a SPL meter??Pio Elete Pro 520
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SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
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RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
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I do not have a meter for spl. I am running the rear surround channels for the low end and using the current source outputs for the highs, as recommended in the Sunfire manual. I am still running the center channel and effect channels for a total of 5 channels. I believe that in two channel operation, it will tap the reserves of the other channels if needed.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
nooshinjohn wrote: »I do not have a meter for spl. I am running the rear surround channels for the low end and using the current source outputs for the highs, as recommended in the Sunfire manual. I am still running the center channel and effect channels for a total of 5 channels. I believe that in two channel operation, it will tap the reserves of the other channels if needed.
I guess that would mean that when in 2 channel mode you have a lot more in reserve than I would. I have 4 channels of five running the 1.2tl's so ther is only one channel not being used, you would still have 3 in reserve??
Does this sound right?? If mine are still having issues after I replace the tweets and confirm the wiring again I will send my amp in for a check-up.
Thanks for your help!!Pio Elete Pro 520
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Sunfire CG 200 X 5
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OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
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LSI 15's
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It won't be the amp... if the tweets do not solve the issue, you will have a problem driver or two. I would start looking for a couple drivers just in case.
JohnThe Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Can anyone tell me how to get the side panels off the 1.2TL's??
I am going to make a new set of "wood" a little later on and replace the cloth..
ThanksPio Elete Pro 520
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OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
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here,,,did you get your driver issue fixed?
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26036&highlight=sda+side+panel+removalJC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
george daniel wrote: »here,,,did you get your driver issue fixed?
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26036&highlight=sda+side+panel+removal
Thanks George. I am waiting on the new tweeters to arrive to continue the troubleshooting of the drivers. Some suggested that the blown tweeters may have something to do with the issue?? I am also going to check all of the internal wiring when I replace them.
Thanks for the help!!Pio Elete Pro 520
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Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
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RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
By the way, the shipping at Polk is delayed due to them "moving"??? I can't wait!!Pio Elete Pro 520
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OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
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GFA 555
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By the way, the shipping at Polk is delayed due to them "moving"??? I can't wait!!
Well,, good luck,,I know it can be frustrating,,perhaps it's a good thing that you are temporarily sidetracked with the delay in the tweeter shipment,,gives you some time to step back and re-acess,,at least that seemed to work for me,,,it's very easy to become totally pre-occupied with an SDA dilema/issue--good luck.JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
george daniel wrote: »Well,, good luck,,I know it can be frustrating,,perhaps it's a good thing that you are temporarily sidetracked with the delay in the tweeter shipment,,gives you some time to step back and re-acess,,at least that seemed to work for me,,,it's very easy to become totally pre-occupied with an SDA dilema/issue--good luck.
Yes Sir!! You are absolutely correct!! I re-arranged the entire room last night and am now in the process of re-routing the wiring....major pain in butt!! The placement was all wrong according to the manual, all spacing was bad, and I thought they were too close to my TV (Pioneer Elite rear projection). By the way, anyone know what the safe distance is??
Anyway, I have already connected just the 1.2tl's and played several disc's, wow...Dark Side of the Moon has sound coming from everywhere....I've never experienced anything like this, I LOVE IT!!!
I am sure it will be a lot better when I get everything completed as one speaker has no tweeters playing at all.Pio Elete Pro 520
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SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
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Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
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Safe distance---IIRC---6 feet .
eh,, maybe 3 feet,,if you are talking about the distance between the speakers and your vidieo,,,then there's always bucking magnets,,and with certain vidieo devices,,it's not an issue,,Plasma,LCD?JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
george daniel wrote: »Safe distance---IIRC---6 feet .
eh,, maybe 3 feet,,if you are talking about the distance between the speakers and your vidieo,,,then there's always bucking magnets,,and with certain vidieo devices,,it's not an issue,,Plasma,LCD?
:(Hell, that is impossible for me, I would need a room a bit over 22 feet wide, and the speakers would be a little over 16 feet apart???
Excuse me while I go out back and shoot myself!!!!:eek:Pio Elete Pro 520
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Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
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RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
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PSW 404 -
No,, how far apart are they now?JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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george daniel wrote: »No,, how far apart are they now?
The TV is 50" wide, I have them 12" out from each side and have a min of 3 feet from the side of one to the side wall, the other side has more distance, can't center it perfectly for other reasons....so they are just over 6 feet apart from edge to edge....Don't shoot yourself, just start looking for a new place!
That's what I did, my Living room in my apartment was 14x12.5
Now in my house the smallest Bedroom is 18x14, I'm building an Audio room in my basement that will be 22x14
Maybe you could send me a couple hundred grand???:D
You are fortunate!! I would love to hear your system in that room, probably never leave!!:eek:Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
I have read on the net that rear projection isn't as sensitive due to the placement of the CRTs inside the cabinet??Pio Elete Pro 520
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OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
Let me see if I have this right. You have the speakers 6 feet apart, atleast 3 feet from the side walls and 12 inches from the back wall; correct?
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hearingimpared wrote: »Let me see if I have this right. You have the speakers 6 feet apart, atleast 3 feet from the side walls and 12 inches from the back wall; correct?
The back of the speakers are about 14.5" from the wall. The manual states they should be out 2" more than anything beside them??
The main issue I am worried about now is the spacing from my rear projection TV, I want to be sure it is okay..
Thanks a lot!!Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404