Michael Jackson Dies
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I'll be here all week Sis.
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Even in his prime he never appeared to be a happy man, I ve always felt kinda bad for him. I think Michael Jackson "died" many years ago, aside from his personal life, he was a great entertainer and American icon. A very sad ending for this guy.Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
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Some of you guys are just way to perfect but yet have no respect. :rolleyes:
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Wow. Just Wow.
MJ was one of the most brilliant, innovating artists ever. And he will be remembered for that.
What he did wrong during his life, he will pay for. Maybe he already did.
I am pretty sure not a single person that is condemning him witnessed any of the crimes they are condemning him for.
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I could care less about the man. With his self importance and odd behavior, he creeped me out as a human.
However...
His music is a mark of measurement in my own life. I remember Thriller. I remember being 4 years old, watching the video. I associate it deeply with being happy and excited in my life. It's not my foundation of happy memories, by any means, but it was one of those backseat milestones that you can look back fondly on.
The death of MJ punctuates my mortality a bit more than before his death.
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give me a damn break folks. He will be remembered for his music for a long time worldwide. He was a master at what he did, no doubt. But, and there is a "but", just like oj and his shenanigan's, do you for one second folks will remember him first and foremost for football? I think not. Mj broke many records and even i had the red leather jacket he wore in the thriller video as a kid. But, and there is a "but", what he did later in life completely alienated me and countless other millions of people. Was he a pedophile? You bet. Was he ever proven guilty? No. But, and there is a "but", it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that he was one.
Was he one of the best in the business and does he have millions of adoring fans worldwide? Yes. But, and there is a "butt", [a child's butt] he was a sick dog who had the money to pay his way out of jail doing what he did and this created millions of other folks that could care less about the music and more about the man.....er, uh, pedophile.
To which i say, rot in hell instead of rest in peace. I have no sympathy for that sickness and i'm quite sure the kids he affected will have no sympathy tonight either. Just like when oj passes along with other sick **** folks like manson, i will not be shedding any tears. That said, i'm out of this thread and off to have a beer.
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I know that if I were to be accused of being a pedophile every single person in this world would hear me adamantly defending myself. I'd never ever ever let it go till ever single person in this world knew I was innocent. I'd use every single resource available to prove my innocence. It would be a lot easier for me to do this if I had millions to spend like Michael Jackson. HHMMMMMMMMMMM So why didn't he do this? I can only think of one reason and it has nothing to do with lawyers.
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I though Patrick Swayze or Steve Jobs....who'd a thunk it
My post was merely bad gallows humor
I remember buying Thriller & Bad on vinyl...pretty well cut records.
Johnny Caswell said he rehearsed the evening before his death. May just be that an almost 51 yr old man with drug-medical-underweight issues blew out his heart...danced himself to death. -
Did he still own all the rights to all the Beatles albums?
(just thinking about this always made me want to vommit, or the thing you do when you just vommit a bit, catch it in your mouth and it shoots into your sinuses and burns, then you have to swallow it back down...you know what I'm talking about, right?) -
I agree 100% with you njpolker!!!!But when you have millions (like OJ )and just try the silent method, you can get off. I'm not saying OJ did it either but OJ's tial would've been nothing (well it still was enormous) compared to the publicity Michael was facing.
In a replay of one of his interviews Micheal said his advisors told him there was no guarantee he would win the case/cases so to opt for the buy-out was his only assurance of freedom. They also told him it would go away quicker. They told him a trial might last 3 yrs.. He was with the Presley girl at the time. My wife thinks the Presley girl might know something. We'll see or maybe not...Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
I really don't care. I didn't like the music, or him as a person.
Being dead is just an interesting bit of trivia.
Elvis-dead
Selena-dead
Curt Cobain-dead
Jim Morrison-dead
I won't be weeping in the crowd throwing flowers. I didn't know
the man. I never did get all that celebrity crap. Yet thousands will
line up to publicly mourn a man they never met, nor ever could even
get close enough to see. I save tha for all the people that really matter.
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Did he still own all the rights to all the Beatles albums?
Pretty sure he sold them all back when he started having financial troubles.
Or you could just read this :
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/jackson.aspIf you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
The Beatles albums rights thing:rolleyes:.. After he bought or married into those rights, I didn't hear as much being played on the radio. Even to this day... Maybe that was part of his financial woes.. correction:::
bobman1235.. great article!!!!..thank youMost people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
tony millard wrote: »TAfter he bought or married into those rights, I didn't hear as much being played on the radio.Snopes wrote:The key point here is that holding the publishing rights to songs doesn't really give the rightsholder much Beatles "power" over those songs. The rightsholder has some latitude in negotiating royalty rates and determining who may use a song in film or print its lyrics, but that's about it. The chief benefit to owning the publishing rights of songs is that standard publishing agreements call for royalties to be split 50-50 between the publisher and the songwriter(s), so owning the publishing rights to popular songs can be a lucrative form of income.
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No he only owned a percentage. I think around half but most of that was sold off to pay debts. Why would him owning the Beatles albums upset you? someone had to own them.Did he still own all the rights to all the Beatles albums?
(just thinking about this always made me want to vommit, or the thing you do when you just vommit a bit, catch it in your mouth and it shoots into your sinuses and burns, then you have to swallow it back down...you know what I'm talking about, right?)
It is always interesting to watch peoples reactions to someones death. Was he a pedophile? I dont know. Odds are yes he was. Does it matter now? not in my oppinion. You have two choices either respect the work he did musically or throw that all away and let the "accusations" of pedophilia define who he was. It is not for me to judge either way. He is dead let it go.tony millard wrote: »In a replay of one of his interviews he said his advisors told him there was no guarantee he would win the case/cases so to opt for the buy-out was his only assurance of freedom. They also told him it would go away quicker. They told him a trial might last 3 yrs.. He was with the Presley girl at the time. My wife thinks the Presley girl might know something. We'll see or maybe not...
REGARDS SNOWWell, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all
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Tony, you didn't read the article that Bob posted did you?
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Bob, very interesting article...thanks for the info.
"No he only owned a percentage. I think around half but most of that was sold off to pay debts. Why would him owning the Beatles albums upset you? someone had to own them."
I just find it ironic that the "King of Pop" owned the rights to the albums of arguably the greatest "Rock" band of all time. The Beatles contribution to music was much more profound and enduring that any of MJ's "Pop" music. This is why the "King of ****" owning the rights made me nauseaus - figuratively speaking off course. -
I love the Beatles, but most of their music would be much better categorized as pop than rock.If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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No he only owned a percentage. I think around half but most of that was sold off to pay debts. Why would him owning the Beatles albums upset you? someone had to own them.REGARDS SNOW
He actually owned them lock, stock & barrel... His falling out with Paul McCartney was due to MJ going behind his back and buying them in the first place. I stopped liking MJ because of this. Michael later sold 51% of his rights to Sony when his poor finances forced him to and he sold the rest for similar reasons a few years back. Paul McCartney may now own the rights to his music again, or he is in negotiations to do so.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Boys, boys and girls.
Please, the Beatles and M.J. No comparison there! Beatles were a pivotal point for all the music that came after.....Who was 'influenced' by M.J.?
The Pedophile stuff is not relevant to me personally. This was a troubled soul who deserves 'pity'. Did he have talent? I don't really know, as he didn't do it for me! And a lot of people who raved and cried over him seem to be fairly empty inside themselves?
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I thought that ATV owned only 37.5% of the beatles catalog when MJ bought them out and McCartney and Lennon owned 15% each. I could be wrong here I have been wrong at least once beforenooshinjohn wrote: »He actually owned them lock, stock & barrel... His falling out with Paul McCartney was due to MJ going behind his back and buying them in the first place. I stopped liking MJ because of this. Michael later sold 51% of his rights to Sony when his poor finances forced him to and he sold the rest for similar reasons a few years back. Paul McCartney may now own the rights to his music again, or he is in negotiations to do so.
REGARDS SNOWWell, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all -
MJ bid against his friend Paul for the rights to the songs, and outbid him. Lennon/McCartney had no rights to the music whatsoever. Paul has despised MJ for a very long time because of this. It has been rumored though there is no evidence to back it up, that McCartney may have helped MJ's legal troubles along...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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He would top the charts and hardly anyone would remember or be playing those tunes a year or less after that! To say he was the King of Pop is to say that his music was 'superficial and commercial'....something to be consumed and thrown away. It was a disposable music that didn''t really hold up. That's probably what he himself slowly discovered and led to his creative paralysis and the inability to mount a come back.
Are you serious? Have you been living in a cave for the last thirty years? Thriller is the greatest selling album of all time and STILL sells en masse each and every year. Nearly every modern R&B singer credits Michael Jackson for influential reasons. Didn't hold up? Nearly all of his singles are considered classics of the genre.
Say what you want about any and all allegations, but your post borders on retardation. You should really find something shiny and play with it for awhile.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
Who was 'influenced' by M.J.?
No really... I can't let this go. Have you been playing with scissors the last three decades? Did one manage to lodge itself in your frontal lobe? Maybe you're still playing the triangle or the sandpaper blocks in third grade? Your grasp of musical history would set five thousand baby pandas on fire and then proceed to slap the pope's mom on the face.
Please stop posting. Please.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
Only by 58 mill or so over the next best selling album, Back in Black AC/DC. Thriller 100 mill + versus 42 mill Back in Blackzombie boy 2000 wrote: »Are you serious? Have you been living in a cave for the last thirty years? Thriller is the greatest selling album of all time and STILL sells en masse each and every year.
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M.J.'s music was a bit like Andy Warhol's statement about 15 minutes of fame. The music was like fast food...not very lasting or memorable.
He would top the charts and hardly anyone would remember or be playing those tunes a year or less after that! To say he was the King of Pop is to say that his music was 'superficial and commercial'....something to be consumed and thrown away. It was a disposable music that didn''t really hold up. That's probably what he himself slowly discovered and led to his creative paralysis and the inability to mount a come back.
M.J. realized that he had no 'depth'. And at 50 that's...well...that's...read Leo Tolstoy's Confession! In his 50's with War and Peace and Anna Karenina already behind him, Tolstoy was near life-despairing suicide before his religious epiphany!
I couldn't agree more.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Why bother with this crowd, Jason? Shiny to play with? Sit them in front of a TV, turn on a channel that has cars driving in circles for hours on in, and then when its all over, give em' a good smack in the **** as they leave for wally world to fill up on more Dorito's.
This from the stronzo that still lives in his mommy's basement. :rolleyes:Political Correctness'.........defined
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Only by 58 mill or so over the next best selling album, Back in Black AC/DC. Thriller 100 mill + versus 42 mill Back in Black
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Of course it is only the SECOND best selling album in the US...according to the RIAA. His death will problably push it over the top however."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
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