Michael Jackson Dies

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  • ckphoto
    ckphoto Posts: 121
    edited June 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Yes he was a very very talented pedophile. Can you say double standards? If he wasn't talented would you guys still be saying RIP? I doubt it. Or if a serial killer was very talented you you say rest in peace? I doubt it. Pedophiles are very very low on my list. What happens to most victims is common knowledge. I'll shed a tear for his victims, but not that sick talented focker.

    Ben you are so right it is sickening that anyone can over look what he did just because he could sing.
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited June 2009
    ckphoto wrote: »
    Ben you are so right it is sickening that anyone can over look what he did just because he could sing.

    You forgot he can dance real well too.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited June 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    You forgot he can dance real well too.

    That's part of the problem. Too many people watched MJ as he was growing up. All those shows on how his dad was messed up. Poor MJ such a victim:( Cry me a river. What about Charles Mansion? Think he had good parents, or any other sickos? Bottom line MJ was cute and talented, and the average age group here watched him grow into a super star.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,460
    edited June 2009
    Talent, what talent?

    RIH, you freak.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    M.J.'s music was a bit like Andy Warhol's statement about 15 minutes of fame. The music was like fast food...not very lasting or memorable.

    He would top the charts and hardly anyone would remember or be playing those tunes a year or less after that! To say he was the King of Pop is to say that his music was 'superficial and commercial'....something to be consumed and thrown away. It was a disposable music that didn''t really hold up. That's probably what he himself slowly discovered and led to his creative paralysis and the inability to mount a come back.

    M.J. realized that he had no 'depth'. And at 50 that's...well...that's...read Leo Tolstoy's Confession! In his 50's with War and Peace and Anna Karenina already behind him, Tolstoy was near life-despairing suicide before his religious epiphany!

    The man had his Demons and perhaps never realized his real abilities because of his commercial success. That success destroyed him.

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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2009
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,140
    edited June 2009
    My 2cents..I think his advisors told him not to go to court and it would blow..over. Just the opposite happened and no matter how rich you are you can't shed that accusation!!!!! I hope he wasn't guilty but I don't know the details like someone else said earlier.. I think pedophiles should be sentenced harder than murderers. I believe in an eye for an eye but how do you punish one who's taken the CHILDHOOD from the child?

    I thought he was trying to keep innocence around him with his park and some **** worldly adults away. NOT all adults of coarse.

    If there was/is proof he molested any child ,I'll not play the thriller cd ever again!

    Don't hate me F1nut. I still respect your advice as always;)
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2009
    I tried really hard to come up with something nice to say but I failed, so I will keep my thoughts to myself, other than I hope all the bad stories were wrong and it's not for me to judge.



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  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited June 2009
    wizzy wrote: »
    Why do people seem to forget he was acquitted of any charges re: child molestation?

    W
    Because "acquitted" does not mean he didn't do it.
  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited June 2009
    You guys bashing MJ are pathetic. Do you have any idea what kind of childhood he had? I guarantee it was 10x worse than anything any of us went through. I mean, his brother used to bring girls into his room and bang them right in front of Michael when he was like 10 years old. You think that had any affect on him?

    You take children, from birth, and raise them to hate (insert any race here) or do something like sexually molest them and I can almost guarantee those kids are going to be messed up hard. You take those same kids and put them in nurturing, loving homes and they will turn out completely different. We are products of our environment. People don't choose to molest children. Things happen to people that makes them more likely to. People are wired differently. Just thank God you weren't messed up in your life and are wired well. Kind of unrelated, but how many Catholics do you think there are in India? Not many, because they weren't exposed to Catholicism. Expose someone to something and they're more likely to turn out to be one.

    If you can't see that, then I feel really sorry for you. You're no better than a lot of the people you hate.
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited June 2009
    RIP MJ. Many thanks for what you did in the music industry.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2009
    Funny that the same people who preach religion the most on this board, a religion based on forgiveness, are the same ones who throw "burn in hell" comments at a corpse.

    "He who dies pays all debts."
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,140
    edited June 2009
    bobman1235, that can also be said about humanity itself. I always think about that scene about casting the first stone before I judge anybody.
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,067
    edited June 2009
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Funny that the same people who preach religion the most on this board, a religion based on forgiveness, are the same ones who throw "burn in hell" comments at a corpse.

    "He who dies pays all debts."

    Agreed, Christianity teaches that we will be judged as we judge others. I'm not one wanting to find myself in that situation. I certainly don't agree with his choice of lifestyle but RIP vs BIH is not my call and WAY above my pay grade....
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited June 2009
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Funny that the same people who preach religion the most on this board, a religion based on forgiveness, are the same ones who throw "burn in hell" comments at a corpse.

    "He who dies pays all debts."


    Agreed. Sometimes it seems the most vile statements come from Mr. Christianity.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited June 2009
    You guys are lumping Christians into a pretty nasty pot. I am a Christian as most here know and I said nothing judgemental about MJ. In fact my statement was one of sympathy.
  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited June 2009
    Good grief. Everything around here turns into a huge drama.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2009
    I worship the Devil but still don't want to live next to MJ.
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  • 66chevyIISS
    66chevyIISS Posts: 857
    edited June 2009
    n/m I didn't read all the other crap before posting... move along...
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited June 2009
    dragon1952 wrote: »
    Good grief. Everything around here turns into a huge drama.
    True statement if ever I saw one. That's signature material right there.:cool:


    According to the Jackson family, MJ's personal physician was present in the home when he went into cardiac arrest, and immediately began CPR. I don't think it was as simple as a heart attack.
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  • RyanJoz
    RyanJoz Posts: 116
    edited June 2009
    Rest in peace Michael. While I do not agree with some of your personal decisions, I have always and will remain a fan of your music.
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited June 2009
    He was OBVIOUSLY a very disturbed individual. He started out as a normal looking black boy, and ended up a cross between a white woman and a space alien. If he would do something like that to himself, what makes you think he couldn't have done some wierd things to children? There had to be a pretty good reason he paid millions of dollars in out of court lawsuits to the parents. His death neither saddens me, nor makes me happy. However, I do mourn the loss of Farrah Fawcett, who lost the battle to cancer today.
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  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited June 2009
    What a month...
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  • raidersrule76
    raidersrule76 Posts: 471
    edited June 2009
    Due to the fact that MJ is 99% plastic he will bel melted down and turned into lego blocks so that little children will have the chance to play with him for a change.

    Other than that I have nothing to say!
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  • Roy Munson
    Roy Munson Posts: 886
    edited June 2009
    I feel sorry for his victims and lets not forget that while he was acquitted for one molestation he paid off another to stay out of court! This action led to a change in the law concerning out of court settlements for child molestation.

    There's no telling how many people he may have hurt..he took his secret to the grave.

    Yes he was talented, but that alone doesn't justify his pathetic behavior!

    Sorry, no tears for MJ.
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  • Hillbilly61
    Hillbilly61 Posts: 702
    edited June 2009
    The guy got very weird after his $50M income from the Thriller album. Earlier this year he had to sell off his "never land" estate via public auction ... probably broke.

    Maybe the thought of having to again work for a living killed him...... Next month, he was going to perform in a comeback concert in England.........
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited June 2009
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    funny that the same people who preach religion the most on this board, a religion based on forgiveness, are the same ones who throw "burn in hell" comments at a corpse.

    "he who dies pays all debts."



    Agreed, very well said!!!!!!!!!!!



    RIP MJ
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited June 2009
    i can't see where or what he did with all his millions of dollars.. this still astounds me. he was renting a $100,000 a month home. that's a MONTH.. not year.

    I guess even the extremely wealthy can lose it all if they overspend like he did.

    I think prescription drugs are going to play such a big part in his death investigation.. ala Anna Nicole Smith, and Heath Ledger
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited June 2009
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Funny that the same people who preach religion the most on this board, a religion based on forgiveness, are the same ones who throw "burn in hell" comments at a corpse.

    "He who dies pays all debts."
    Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!!!

    You guys amaze me sometimes. Was he wierd, absolutely. But its a long way to go from being a freak to being a pedophile. I don't know what happened with those kids, and NEITHER DO YOU. Condemning someone to burn in hell because of what you think may have happened is just blind hate, I don't see what else it could possibly be.

    Please, if someone has some proof to offer up, then by all means lets see it. But as for saying he's guilty because 'I just know he did it' - well there are thousands of people overseas who just 'know' that we're the infadels and don't mind taking out a few thousand innocent civilians by flying a couple planes into our buildings. See what happens then acts or thoughts are based on hate rather than rational observations?

    I have more to say, but I'll stop there.
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2009
    Mazeroth wrote: »
    You guys bashing MJ are pathetic. Do you have any idea what kind of childhood he had? I guarantee it was 10x worse than anything any of us went through. I mean, his brother used to bring girls into his room and bang them right in front of Michael when he was like 10 years old. You think that had any affect on him?

    You take children, from birth, and raise them to hate (insert any race here) or do something like sexually molest them and I can almost guarantee those kids are going to be messed up hard. You take those same kids and put them in nurturing, loving homes and they will turn out completely different. We are products of our environment. People don't choose to molest children. Things happen to people that makes them more likely to. People are wired differently. Just thank God you weren't messed up in your life and are wired well. Kind of unrelated, but how many Catholics do you think there are in India? Not many, because they weren't exposed to Catholicism. Expose someone to something and they're more likely to turn out to be one.

    If you can't see that, then I feel really sorry for you. You're no better than a lot of the people you hate.


    Not many people will see this side of life, I agree his childhood could of or did F'k him up for all his life.

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