Got arrested last night.

Jstas

concealer404 wrote: »

God dude. For the last time. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A WARRANT ISSUED FOR ME. My social starts with a 107, and there has NEVER been a warrant on it. The warrant is listed with a social that starts with 415. I was never issued a warrant. This is false arrest.

Nobody can even tell me if the warrant is tied to traffic. There isn't even a reason listed on the actual warrant as to what it's for. None of the officers could tell me. They all agreed that it was strange.

I monitor my credit, all my bank accounts, nothing strange has happened. No breaches, no nothing.

As for taking care of speeding tickets and etc.... how could i have not taken care of it before a warrant was issued, if i've never had a warrant issued for ME? It's been taken care of, everything pertaining to me is clean.

Stolen identity is a possibility, but it's hard to pinpoint that without a reason being found for the warrant.

Yeah, this I must have made this up in my head:

As a little back story, i had a little issue with my liscence starting from a speeding ticket that i had lost and forgot to pay. That was all taken care of fairly recently. All court costs and fines paid, and my liscence reinstated in full. This was done AFTER the warrant was served. I never got served, since the warrant had the wrong address on it as well.

The ONLY thing that this warrant could have been related to was traffic offense. I've never had an issue with anything else. IF this warrant was valid, then i wouldn't have been able to get my liscence back, as far as i'm concerned. I was able to get my liscence back, because my true identity was and still is clear.

The warrant was issued. It came back to YOU. Correct SSN or not, it came back to YOU. The point is that there never should have been a question as to whether the warrant was for you or not. They took your license. They had your license number. They run that number as well. Something OBVIOUSLY popped up that was deemed actionable against YOU. You stated above you had a warrant issued for your unpaid ticket. You took care of it AFTER it was issued. For your sake, you should hope it was a mere clerical error. But you know what? If you hadn't had the warrant issued in the first place there would be no question that the warrant wasn't for you.

**** on Club Polk about your wrongful arrest all you want. Leave tags in your thread calling me names all you want. I think there is way more to this story than you are letting on. You know what though? You wanna find innocent people? Go to a jail. Every single one of them will tell you they are innocent and have been arrested, charged and convicted wrongfully.

You wanted advice, you got it. Go talk to a lawyer, or the DA (who is also a lawyer) or both!

You're still an idiot. Nothing but a stupid f&*****( kid with an attitude problem.

IMO, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy! My advice? Don't eat the yellow snow, I couldn't give a damn whether you end up in the clink or not.


You spelled license incorrectly too.

Jstas

george daniel wrote: »

flee the country :rolleyes:

Excellent advice! Best yet! I second it! :eek:

nguyendot

Chill out people.

Take care of your problem, that's all you can do now. We sympathize.

concealer404

Jstas wrote: »

Yeah, this I must have made this up in my head:



The warrant was issued. It came back to YOU. Correct SSN or not, it came back to YOU. The point is that there never should have been a question as to whether the warrant was for you or not. They took your license. They had your license number. They run that number as well. Something OBVIOUSLY popped up that was deemed actionable against YOU. You stated above you had a warrant issued for your unpaid ticket. You took care of it AFTER it was issued. For your sake, you should hope it was a mere clerical error. But you know what? If you hadn't had the warrant issued in the first place there would be no question that the warrant wasn't for you.

**** on Club Polk about your wrongful arrest all you want. Leave tags in your thread calling me names all you want. I think there is way more to this story than you are letting on. You know what though? You wanna find innocent people? Go to a jail. Every single one of them will tell you they are innocent and have been arrested, charged and convicted wrongfully.

You wanted advice, you got it. Go talk to a lawyer, or the DA (who is also a lawyer) or both!

You're still an idiot. Nothing but a stupid f&*****( kid with an attitude problem.

IMO, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy! My advice? Don't eat the yellow snow, I couldn't give a damn whether you end up in the clink or not.


You spelled license incorrectly too.

I'd like you to tell me where i said i had a warrant for an unpaid ticket? They don't issue warrants for that in this state, buddy. They simply suspend your liscense until you do something about it, and that's it. I didn't know what the warrant was for. The officers didn't know what the warrant was for, and i STILL don't know what the warrant was for. This is because, the warrant has no reason listed on it. And it should.

The issue with the liscense being suspended was simply brought up for the fact that i've been through their system twice since the warrant was apparently issued, and not ONE DAMN WORD was spoken about it. I went there to court to get everything straightened out. I went there to pay fines, court fees, etc. I went there to get my liscense reinstated. I got my liscense reinstated. I've gotten pulled over in the same county since, for fix-it tickets. NOT ONE WORD WAS SPOKEN ABOUT IT.

Running my liscense number comes up clean, no warrants, 4 points from traffic violations. Running my SS# number comes up clean, no warrants. Running that bogus SS# comes up with a warrant. This is NOT a hard concept to grasp.

You have a reading comprehension problem. But we'll tally it up to the fact that i made a spelling error on one word.

When i have the officers apologizing to me because THEY don't even know what's going on, there's a problem. Plain and simple.

Call me a stupid **** kid all you want. You seem to be the only person having a problem with the scenario. As usual.

shack

reeltrouble1 wrote:

One DNA sample I took on a CP member came back "Alien Substance".

I don't EVEN want to know where you collected that sample.

DollarDave

concealer404 wrote: »

Running my liscense number comes up clean, no warrants, 4 points from traffic violations. Running my SS# number comes up clean, no warrants. Running that bogus SS# comes up with a warrant. This is NOT a hard concept to grasp.

.......Call me a stupid **** kid all you want. You seem to be the only person having a problem with the scenario. As usual.

You say running your license comes up clean? And, only the bogus SS# comes up with a warrant. In your first post you said they ran your license and registration and came back and arrested you.

You say they can't give you a reason for the warrant - how can you have a court date set for a trail you or they don't even know what it is for? How could they set bail for an unknown crime? Your side of the story has some important facts and/or details left out (most likely convieniently left out).

WilliamM2

Plead guilty for a reduced sentence.:)

How do they set a court date if they don't know what the warrant is for? What's the max sentence for "We don't know" anyways? Can't be too bad.

concealer404

DaveMuell wrote: »

You say running your license comes up clean? And, only the bogus SS# comes up with a warrant. In your first post you said they ran your license and registration and came back and arrested you.

You say they can't give you a reason for the warrant - how can you have a court date set for a trail you or they don't even know what it is for? How could they set bail for an unknown crime? Your side of the story has some important facts and/or details left out (most likely convieniently left out).

He took my liscense, and my girlfriend's liscense, and her registration. It's not my car. I have no idea how he searched the first time. It would have HAD to be by name, though, as that's how he pulled it up once i was in the car, and searching by liscense number shows nothing. As does searching by SS#.

I don't have a court date yet. I just got out yesterday at 1am. They're going to mail me a court date. I have no idea how they're going to do it, i just have to wait and see what happens.

They brought me in on an open warrant. That's what the bail was for, as far as i can tell. Nobody could tell me what the crime was.

That is the full story. This is why i'm confused. I have the same questions you do. If i was convienently leaving things out, chances that i'd be back at work today would be pretty slim.

NJPOLKER

As was stated earlier, don't drop the soap or better yet go buy yourself soap on a rope.

This could turn into a chronic problem for you if you don't address it throughly.

KrazyMofo24

I thought you didn't have a warrant it didn't match your SSN? If you don't have a warrant, and he didn't write you a ticket why do you have to go to court? Sorry I never have been arrested is it mandatory to go to court for every arrest?

dkg999

Get an attorney, this is a common occurance. The officer should of done a little more double-checking, but you would be complaining if he let the ax murderer go free just because there were some inconsistencies between the warrant info and what he could see when he checked you.

A decent attorney and being polite to the judge and officer in court will make this go away. If you're going to be an a$$-hat over it, then make sure the rope is tightly attached to the soap.

Kex

reeltrouble1 wrote: »

... One DNA sample I took on a CP member came back "Alien Substance". ...

shack wrote: »

I don't EVEN want to know where you collected that sample.

Relax, Shack, I bet that one was from Keiko. He readily admits to a fascination with Sci-Fi and all things related to James Tiberius K., but little did he know that it's because he's actually yearning for his real home, in a distant galaxy ... far, far away!

danger boy

get a lawyer and get this cleared up..

then see if your lawyer can at least get his expenses or court costs taken care of for you..

concealer404

KrazyMofo24 wrote: »

I thought you didn't have a warrant it didn't match your SSN? If you don't have a warrant, and he didn't write you a ticket why do you have to go to court? Sorry I never have been arrested is it mandatory to go to court for every arrest?

Warrant doesn't match my SSN#.

They're just telling me that i'll have to go to court. For what, i have no idea. I'll keep an eye on the mail i guess.

Pauly

Ive had a similar thing happen to me where the courts got my dates mixed up for court dates/payments and got a warrent issued for a no show and never found out till 6 months later when my buddy got pulled over for speeding and ran his DL and he came up suspended so they asked if i could drive and i said yes i was all legit cuz i had just cleared everything with the courts blah blah... So they ran mine just to make sure and wouldnt you know i had a warrent. I tried pleeding with the cops not to take me in cuz it was all a mistake blah blah. He wasnt having it and took me in anyway. Long story short. Many calls to the Clerk of Court, the Clerk messed dates and payments up on tickets and court dates which triggered a warrent. Was a big mess. 2 nasty bolonga sandwichs and a missed night out to the Strip club. (Where we were going when we got pulled over)

Hope that never happens again.

Good Luck

Pauly

vlam

Sorry but I don't see any damages since they did their job.

They ran your name (according to you) and it came back with a warrant. I assume all the other information was the same since they assume that was you. You had 2 records in their system and one has a warrant on it. The story would be different if before you were arrested, you gave them your SS# and they insists that you have a warrant.

When checking for warrant on their computer, they may not have the ability to see the SSN. They checked based on your name and other info and it came back positive. End of story. If there is an error in the system, you need to correct it.

Why didn't you question the warrant? If I was pulled over and they tell me that I have a warrant, I would want to know what it was for and verify that it was me (in this darn age of identity theft).

vlam

They're just telling me that i'll have to go to court. For what, i have no idea. I'll keep an eye on the mail i guess.

You have to go to court to clear up the warrant. If the warrant is not valid, they will clear it up in court and is remove in the system.

You don't expect someone in the office to press a key to remove the name and "poof", everything is taking care of do you?

danger boy

ok people.... we all eff up now and then..

but if you have court dates/warrants/expired DL be proactive and take care of that ****. it will at some point come back to bite you in the ****, hard.

the legal system has no room for missed court dates.. it's considered a no show and they will issue a warrant for your arrest... and that would not be pleasant to be arrested at your job, at the in laws or anywhere.

just saying.. if you have any outstanding court dates, or unfinished legal business. get it done. it will sting a lot less the sooner you get it take care of.

(never understood why people choose to drive without a license or expired one)

hearingimpared

danger boy wrote: »

(never understood why people choose to drive without a license or expired one)

I could never. I'd be such a nervous wreck that I would get caught for looking suspicious.

Danny Tse

Have no advice since I've never been arrested....

However, the big question should be....in the end, did your girlfriend learned how to drive stick shift?

hearingimpared

Danny Tse wrote: »

Have no advice since I've never been arrested....

However, the big question should be....in the end, did your girlfriend learned how to drive stick shift?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Forgot all about that.

Serendipity

Danny Tse wrote: »

Have no advice since I've never been arrested....

However, the big question should be....in the end, did your girlfriend learned how to drive stick shift?

It's quite easy, no?

vlam

However, the big question should be....in the end, did your girlfriend learned how to drive stick shift?

It takes 30 seconds. Just teach her how to do a burnout and she is all set to go..

edbert

vlam wrote: »

It takes 30 seconds. Just teach her how to do a burnout and she is all set to go..

Funny you say that, when my dad tried teaching me to drive our truck he told me, "I'd rather you peel out and learn to let off the gas than give me whiplash every time you start because you didn't give it enough gas the first time."

Didn't take me long to learn that way and it was a lot more fun!

Sorry about the ticket/warrant/crap going on.

apphd

concealer404 wrote: »

Warrant doesn't match my SSN#.

They're just telling me that i'll have to go to court. For what, i have no idea. I'll keep an eye on the mail i guess.

Don't show up late or without: a lawyer, drivers license, birth certificate, your S.S. card and any gov. issued i.d. you may have.
Or regardless of how FU it is now and how confused the police are you may just end up back in jail.

Good luck

fossy

It could simply be that someone that got a ticket in that county/state has the same name as yours.First & last name would certainly do it.Of course, checking further after your at the city/county jail will reveal that nothing else matches.

There is another person here in Austin with the same first & last name as mine.I've received a cell phone(obviously returned to sender) & received a few phone calls about unpaid bills that were attached to this other person.

Did you happen to get an address off the other ssn # ????

Another thing that happened to me , some punks took some mail out of my mail box.They used my name for something because when running a credit report, an address came up for me that I had never been a resident of.(it was down the street from where the mail was taken from.An old hotel/motel that was converted into a pay by the week apartment complex. Can we say CRACK HOUSE !!!!!)

I would not over look the idenity theft issue. Look into this just to make sure!!!!

relativedesigns

Ohh boy, i will call you John.
This is a long message but I really dislike our egotistical, self serving (not for the people) abusive injustice system so here goes...

They jacked you hard. You (and everyone else) needs to be belligerent claimants of your/our rights according to the Federal Supreme Courts case decisions (too many to name here) or we LOSE THEM (like all us dummies that are spineless and are -allowing abuses now due to ignorance). States and county rent-a-cops don't give a rats a^s about your rights they typically only want to take your money and freedom from you. Second... minor traffic offenses are not crimes, dumb a$% leglislators and judges pretend they are crimes when they ARE NOT. YOU MUST DEMAND ALL your rights and be a pain in their ****. They had no legal reason to ask you as a passenger for your ID UNLESS They had PC (probable cause) of a REAL crime. a seat belt violation is VERY questionable under the law. If you yelled Brown v Texas at them they would either let you go or get mean in which case WHO CARES! Again, Stupid cops don't care about your rights...

This does not mean physically fighting the stupid cops (unless they are unlawfully trying to kill you) BUT IT DOES MEAN educating yourself/and the dumb **** cops about the law and your rights and DEMANDING THEM VERBALLY to hold A LAWLESS and abusive justice system to OBEY the constitutional rights you Assert and deserver under the law. You must assert your rights or YOU LOSE THEM. emphasis added. Ohh and NEVER make admissions or confessions. (either too a cop or in court) Tell the cop/judge to go suck on a lollie pop and you have NOTHING to say to him/her.
Darn they hate the constitution because it keeps them HONEST.

I typically tell cops AND Judges "I demand all my rights at all times, never waiving any of my rights at any time for ANY reason including my right to timely proceedings and unfettered counsel of my choice at ALL stages of questioning". And when they Miranda(ize) you tell them NO I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY RIGHTS. Are those the only rights I have?? (That is if I don't plea the 5th, which actually you almost always should).
Cops typically LIE about anything you say in court so if you say nothing to them then they have a real hard time in court. Lying gets them promoted if they do not get caught at it.

They screwed up bad in your case (it appears) and now they are criminally or civilly liable for false imprisonment if in fact they made these error(s) like you said. They should have VALIDATED the warrant before they took you in and you should have DEMANDED a verified warrant/complaint (on paper) BEFORE you told them you were suing them for false arrest! You must keep all records and subpoena all these screwed up records (its free when your "criminally" defending yourself) I say its worth a few/several thousand in damages at least for false imprisonment for several hours (if its in fact true).
Tell them it IS FALSE ARREST and get all the records, names of cops, screw ups and demand counsel in court (you get a free public defender) but most of them SUCK so get outside help for sure... Subpoena all the cops in front of the judge and ask all the right questions and your case will be dropped like a hot potato. Then go after them in civil court for damages etc..


Good luck and ask me any questions you like...
I do not give legal advise or pretend to be an attorney but i can give you free counsel.

Here's Brown v Texas FYI landmark case... YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PRODUCE ID TO A COP IF YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN OR SUSPECTED OF A CRIME.

BROWN v. TEXAS, 443 U.S. 47 (1979)
443 U.S. 47

BROWN v. TEXAS.
APPEAL FROM THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW NO. 2, EL PASO COUNTY, TEXAS

No. 77-6673.

Argued February 21, 1979.
Decided June 25, 1979.

Two police officers, while cruising near noon in a patrol car, observed appellant and another man walking away from one another in an alley in an area with a high incidence of drug traffic. They stopped and asked appellant to identify himself and explain what he was doing. One officer testified that he stopped appellant because the situation "looked suspicious and we had never seen that subject in that area before." The officers did not claim to suspect appellant of any specific misconduct, nor did they have any reason to believe that he was armed. When appellant refused to identify himself, he was arrested for violation of a Texas statute which makes it a criminal act for a person to refuse to give his name and address to an officer "who has lawfully stopped him and requested the information." Appellant's motion to set aside an information charging him with violation of the statute on the ground that the statute violated the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments was denied, and he was convicted and fined.

Held:

The application of the Texas statute to detain appellant and require him to identify himself violated the Fourth Amendment because the officers lacked any reasonable suspicion to believe that appellant was engaged or had engaged in criminal conduct. Detaining appellant to require him to identify himself constituted a seizure of his person subject to the requirement of the Fourth Amendment that the seizure be "reasonable." Cf. Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 ; United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U.S. 873 . The Fourth Amendment requires that such a seizure be based on specific, objective facts indicating that society's legitimate interests require such action, or that the seizure be carried out pursuant to a plan embodying explicit, neutral limitations on the conduct of individual officers. Delaware v. Prouse, 440 U.S. 648 . Here, the State does not contend that appellant was stopped pursuant to a practice embodying neutral criteria, and the officers' actions were not justified on the ground that they had a reasonable suspicion, based on objective facts, that he was involved in criminal activity. Absent any basis for suspecting appellant of misconduct, the balance between the public interest in crime prevention and appellant's right to personal [443 U.S. 47, 48] security and privacy tilts in favor of freedom from police interference. Pp. 50-53.

Reversed.

concealer404 wrote: »

No. I'm not joking.

I was teaching my girlfriend how to drive stick, i was in the passenger seat. We were going to Blockbuster to return some movies, and grab another.
The motorized shoulder belt things don't work, so we didn't have those fastened, just the lap belts.

So, we got pulled over because the officer didn't think we had our seat belts on. He came up and checked, believed us, ran the liscences and registration anyway. Came back, told us that we weren't getting any tickets, but that he had to take me in.

WTF?

He told me that there was an outstanding warrant for me in Johnson County, and that he'd have to take me in, that it would probably be a 30 minute in and out process if my girlfriend called and made bail now.

So he took me to the jail, and i waited 2 hours for them to process me. They called me up, asked for my SS#, i gave it to them. Gave it again, and again, and one more time. They started to get a weird look on their faces. I asked why.

"There's no warrant under this SS#." Alarm bells start going off.

They ended up pulling a warrant under my name, via a name search. It had a social that was so far off that not even ONE number matched on it. I was in their system TWICE. Once under my correct social (clear) and once under the wrong social. (Warrant)

Here's where it gets REALLY weird.

The warrant was issued 10/23/08. I'd been pulled over SINCE then in that county, and not a word was said. There was NO REASON on the warrant as to why there was a warrant, and no officer could tell me WHY there was a warrant.

As a little back story, i had a little issue with my liscence starting from a speeding ticket that i had lost and forgot to pay. That was all taken care of fairly recently. All court costs and fines paid, and my liscence reinstated in full. This was done AFTER the warrant was served. I never got served, since the warrant had the wrong address on it as well.

The ONLY thing that this warrant could have been related to was traffic offense. I've never had an issue with anything else. IF this warrant was valid, then i wouldn't have been able to get my liscence back, as far as i'm concerned. I was able to get my liscence back, because my true identity was and still is clear.

Long story short.... i spent 4 hours there last night before i got released. The bail bondsman said that NOTHING sounded right. He started to tell me not to drive anymore so i didn't get picked up again. I had to stop him and tell him:

"I wasn't driving. I have a valid liscence, i just gave it to you. It is clear, has only 4 points on it, no restrictions."

"Oh, well hell. That's **** up. This all sounds wrong."

Sooo.... that's my story.

What do i do? I'll have a court date set shortly, and i'm trying to decide if i should get a lawyer to help sort this out and seek damages, etc, since now i have to put on job applications that yes, i HAVE been arrested, and this falls under the category of Wrongful Arrest as far as i can tell.

Give me your thoughts, please!

concealer404

vlam wrote: »

Why didn't you question the warrant? If I was pulled over and they tell me that I have a warrant, I would want to know what it was for and verify that it was me (in this darn age of identity theft).

I did. They couldn't tell me what it was for. I requested at this point because they didn't know what it was for, and that the identity was effed up, that they let me go. They failed to do that, either.

concealer404

danger boy wrote: »

ok people.... we all eff up now and then..

but if you have court dates/warrants/expired DL be proactive and take care of that ****. it will at some point come back to bite you in the ****, hard.

the legal system has no room for missed court dates.. it's considered a no show and they will issue a warrant for your arrest... and that would not be pleasant to be arrested at your job, at the in laws or anywhere.

just saying.. if you have any outstanding court dates, or unfinished legal business. get it done. it will sting a lot less the sooner you get it take care of.

(never understood why people choose to drive without a license or expired one)

I don't have any of that. I have no outstanding tickets. I have no upcoming court dates, other than what will probably come out of this situation, i have a valid driver's liscense set to expire in about 7 years, with a whopping 4 points on it. I have commited no felonies, owe no money other than student loans, have never written a bad check, beat a woman, ever been arrested before, have never missed a court date.

concealer404

Danny Tse wrote: »

Have no advice since I've never been arrested....

However, the big question should be....in the end, did your girlfriend learned how to drive stick shift?

Sure did! Once i told her to do a big nasty burnout instead of stalling the car, a light bulb clicked on. STill a little rough between shifts, but that's mainly because of the dumb gearing and huge gaps between ratios.

She'll be a pro in a week or two. She actually wants to learn to race and go backroad carving, so this will be fun. She never really understood my car obsession until yesterday i think.