Dog mauled while defending owners against mountain lion

ben62670

Please enlighten us with ignorance:)

McCelery

I can't believe there's 5 pages of posts about this story. Bump!

shadowofnight

Danny Tse wrote: »

Just saw the story on the local CBS affiliate 11pm news....nothing was mentioned about the dog being the aggressor. All I saw was the dog being stitched back together and the owner was in tears about his dog. Poor doggy.

I think what happened was the dog sniffed out the mtn. lion and the big cat acted upon its natural instinct. This is my guess and I am sticking by it.

Your local San Francisco news is just protecting its delicate citizens from harsh reality...the LA times says it like it is....


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/05/state-officials-say-hoagie-the-dog-likely-provoked-the-mountain-lion.html

and that was only at 1:33pm yesterday.

The latest news is that the owner doesnt even know it was a mountain lion....that the authorities cant find tracks...hair...anything pointing to a lion.

" Investigators could find no cougar pawprints, no hairs, no signs of a mountain lion at all. That's odd, considering that the location was well known and this wasn't just a lion in flight, but one in a fight. Confusion between mountain lions and bobcats is pretty common among casual hikers "


So now it could have been a bobcat ( A little less dramatic then a lion...not as good of a story :rolleyes: ) .

And the other thing hot today is why in the hell was the dog not on a leash ??? If that was a protected bird or smaller mammal the dog would have easily killed it....hence the leash laws in the forrest.



" By the way, what was the dog doing off the leash to start with? That's prohibited in the forest; dogs can do a lot of harm to wildlife. No one seems to be pursuing the question -- it's more romantic when the story is about renegade cougars instead of leash laws. "




They really screwed the pooch on this story from the very beginning....they saw a possible dramatic story and ran with it....and its coming around to bite them in the **** now.

ryanjoachim

They really screwed the ***** cat

*Edited for my childish sense of humor.

Over-react much?

shadowofnight

ryanjoachim wrote: »

*Edited for my childish sense of humor.

Dont misquote me saying that kind of ****...edit your post while you still can.

POIDOG

" By the way, what was the dog doing off the leash to start with? That's prohibited in the forest; dogs can do a lot of harm to wildlife. No one seems to be pursuing the question -- it's more romantic when the story is about renegade cougars instead of leash laws. "

/QUOTE]

This is the reason nobody knows the truth. If the dog was off leash, the owner will be cited.

As for the lion, this is common to site them in the forest and people react to the danger. Maybe like the swine flu reaction?

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/01/27/news/state/11_06_521_26_07.txt

POIDOG

And for your viewing pleasure, the infamous cat fighter aka general troublemaker:

http://www.ocregister.com/video/index.php?bcpid=1127694947&bclid=1125998380&bctid=22373096001

ben62670

Oh yeah. Given what we were given nothing changes about what to do with an agressive cougar. If what is being said now is true the owners of the dog should be slapped and steralized.

shawn474

Thanks for the links. Hoggie certainly is a cute dog and his owner obviously loves him a lot.

If you can cite any part of my posts where I make something up about you, I will gladly apologize. It is not my intent to tarnish your name or spread untruths about you. That said, I do not feel I have done so.

Shawn

POIDOG

Shawn, thanks, let's move on.

One last post, the story after the heat cools down:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/morse-hoggie-lion-2396461-campground-dog

ben62670

POIDOG wrote: »

Shawn, thanks, let's move on.

One last post, the story after the heat cools down:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/morse-hoggie-lion-2396461-campground-dog

Very nice.
So I would like to know who is responsible for the lie? The owner, or the media. Very very irresponsible on someone's part. If the dog went after the cat then the owner learned a valuable lesson. If the latest is true I feel for the dog and poor kitty. Like I have said all along cats don't attack randomly. The rangers responded appropriately given the info they were given.
Thanks
Ben

ryanjoachim

Kind of a derail, but still related.

http://www.newsregister.com/article/39319-cougar+suspected+hound+attack

This happened just a few blocks from where I live! Odd coincidence!

snow

ryanjoachim wrote: »

I just wanted to point that part out to Mr. Snow (the man who refused to think that there was ANY reason for the cat to attack the dog).

Welcome to the grey world sir, black and white is dead.

Kindly point out where I said any such thing.



REGARDS SNOW

ryanjoachim

snow wrote: »

Kindly point out where I said any such thing.



REGARDS SNOW

No thanks, too tired.

snow

snow wrote: »

Kindly point out where I said any such thing.



REGARDS SNOW

ryanjoachim wrote: »

No thanks, too tired.

Yup just what I thought, you know as well as I do what you said was entirely untruthful.

Everything I said regarding the incident was based on the information that was presented at the time and was not speculation but based on facts as to how Mountain lions behave.

Now that the story has changed for about the 3rd or 4th time im not really sure as to what actually did or didnt happen whether it be due to story telling on the owner of the dog or press it is truly an odd tale.

If indeed it was a mountain lion next to a bathroom that presents concern also simply due to the fact that they tend to avoid humans like the plague and if one is hanging around a campground it is unusual behavior.

If the dog attacked the mountain lion or bobcat or whatever the hell it was then of course how to properly deal with the situation changes. But based on what the story was intially I stick to my beliefs as to what should happen if indeed such an event occured.

Personally I am happy that it wasnt a mountain lion and that it didnt attack the couple and there dog for several reasons, one being the cat doesnt have to be hunted down and killed and two in the future peoples lifes arent at risk.



REGARDS SNOW

cfrizz

Agreed Snow. Alls well that ends well in this particular situation. Even domestic dogs & cats don't get along. I've see plenty of dogs go after cats & get clawed for their trouble. The dumbass owner of the dog should be fined for not having it leashed.

I'm glad the dog survived & the cat whether bob or mountain lion gets to live as well.

"Personally I am happy that it wasnt a mountain lion and that it didnt attack the couple and there dog for several reasons, one being the cat doesnt have to be hunted down and killed and two in the future peoples lifes arent at risk."
REGARDS SNOW

AudioGenics

Consider the case of the mountain lion, or cougar, who jumped out of the woods at a park in British Columbia and took a 4 ½ year old boy named Paul Krismer, Jr., by the head.

The boy's father, Paul Krismer, happened, luckily enough, to be nearby and turned just in time to see the cat do what comes naturally.

"I heard this cracking in the bushes," Paul Senior recalled, "and I looked back and I could see this cougar leaping at Paul and just getting his jaws set on Paul's head. Then they fell to the ground together."

The distraught father, who was about 20 yards away, rushed to the scene of the attack, without any weapon in hand and, instead, used his feet. He jumped on top of the cat with both of them.

"I just leaped off a log which was at a height over the two of them," he stated, "and came down very forcefully on the cougar's chest with both feet."

The mountain lion was so befuddled by the brazen attack of the father that it released the youthful Paul from its generally vicious grip and fled back into the wild, where, no doubt, it was accustomed to meeting less formidable adversaries than Paul Junior's dad.

What did the boy recall of the life-threatening crisis?

"He thinks it's a bad cat that made a bad choice," his dad said. "I honestly don't think he has a whole lot of sense about his own mortality." The dad went on to say his son is living the life of a typical 4-year-old. "You wipe out on your bike one day and a cougar attacks you the next. Then you fall off the swings the day after that. It's just another thing that happens."